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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing 14:44 - Sep 21 with 4932 viewsThisIsMyUsername

Sounds promising.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/09/19/britain-rejoin-eu-associate-memb

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:48 - Sep 21 with 2884 viewsSwansea_Blue

Can't see past the paywall, but interesting to note that France and Germany are now scoping the nature of our likely future. So much control.

Edit - "deciding" our future wasn't right, it just appears that Germany and France are laying out what the path could look like. Point stays the same though. We've gone from being at the top table shaping things to being a receiver.
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:51 - Sep 21 with 2873 viewsStokieBlue

Just join again.

Sure, we won't have our veto, rebate or the pound but that's just something we would have to accept. The trend in the support for joining is fairly clear:

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/45910-britons-would-vote-rejoin-eu?redire

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:53 - Sep 21 with 2859 viewsnodge_blue

Is that the one that Labour quickly dismissed and says won't happen?

I think that stance may be a little bit to placate the Brexit labour supporters and not upset the apple cart pre election.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:58 - Sep 21 with 2808 viewschicoazul

Before we were half in now we’re half out. I’m sure we’ll be half in again soon.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 15:00 - Sep 21 with 2797 viewsBasingstokeBlue

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:58 - Sep 21 by chicoazul

Before we were half in now we’re half out. I’m sure we’ll be half in again soon.


... then half shake it all about.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 15:16 - Sep 21 with 2744 viewsThisIsMyUsername

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:53 - Sep 21 by nodge_blue

Is that the one that Labour quickly dismissed and says won't happen?

I think that stance may be a little bit to placate the Brexit labour supporters and not upset the apple cart pre election.


I'm not sure what Labour have officially said about this possible scheme, but it seems odd that there are stories of Starmer having 'positive' talks with Macron at the same time as this other story has been coming out.

Hopefully not a case of 2+2=5.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 16:29 - Sep 21 with 2663 viewsBasuco

Access to the single market, to comply with the EU’s common principles and values, including democracy and rule of law, freedom of movement of people, goods, capital and services.
There is a lot to like about this type of agreement, Labour and Sir Keir have really pushed ahead with getting the UK economy back on its feet again.
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 16:31 - Sep 21 with 2663 viewsFtnfwest

it might get round the fact that if he took us back in again he wouldn't be able to reverse the 2030 - 2035 new petrol car policy thing
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:03 - Sep 21 with 2607 viewsHarleydavidsonBlue

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:51 - Sep 21 by StokieBlue

Just join again.

Sure, we won't have our veto, rebate or the pound but that's just something we would have to accept. The trend in the support for joining is fairly clear:

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/45910-britons-would-vote-rejoin-eu?redire

SB


I think you will find another referendum will be required to rejoin.
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:06 - Sep 21 with 2591 viewsJ2BLUE

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:03 - Sep 21 by HarleydavidsonBlue

I think you will find another referendum will be required to rejoin.


An election would do it. If it was part of the manifesto.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:08 - Sep 21 with 2588 viewsBlueRaider

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:51 - Sep 21 by StokieBlue

Just join again.

Sure, we won't have our veto, rebate or the pound but that's just something we would have to accept. The trend in the support for joining is fairly clear:

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/45910-britons-would-vote-rejoin-eu?redire

SB


Has that poll been conducted saying that we would lose the pound though ?

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:08 - Sep 21 with 2587 viewsStokieBlue

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:03 - Sep 21 by HarleydavidsonBlue

I think you will find another referendum will be required to rejoin.


I don't believe that is technically true.

For instance, if Labour put it in their manifesto that they will apply to join the EU then the general election is essentially the referendum and they would be obliged to act on their manifesto commitments.

However, I would also be happy with someone putting a new referendum in their manifesto given the clear trend in the polls.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:09 - Sep 21 with 2583 viewsBlueRaider

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:06 - Sep 21 by J2BLUE

An election would do it. If it was part of the manifesto.


Do you really think that Labour would put that on the manifesto given how much they reacted to Ulez after the Uxbridge by election ?

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:11 - Sep 21 with 2573 viewsJ2BLUE

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:09 - Sep 21 by BlueRaider

Do you really think that Labour would put that on the manifesto given how much they reacted to Ulez after the Uxbridge by election ?


Just highlighting a way it wouldn't need a referendum.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:26 - Sep 21 with 2523 viewsSwansea_Blue

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:03 - Sep 21 by HarleydavidsonBlue

I think you will find another referendum will be required to rejoin.


To adapt a phrase we heard a lot of at the time, I think we've had quite enough of the people!

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:48 - Sep 21 with 2493 viewsGlasgowBlue

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:11 - Sep 21 by J2BLUE

Just highlighting a way it wouldn't need a referendum.


That is correct. Labour put leaving the EU in their 1983 manifesto. Had Foot become PM we would have left without the need for a referendum.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 18:24 - Sep 21 with 2444 viewsfactual_blue

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:08 - Sep 21 by BlueRaider

Has that poll been conducted saying that we would lose the pound though ?


The Pound is rubbish and best forgotten. It was ruined by Churchill back in the 1920s.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 19:18 - Sep 21 with 2389 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 17:48 - Sep 21 by GlasgowBlue

That is correct. Labour put leaving the EU in their 1983 manifesto. Had Foot become PM we would have left without the need for a referendum.


Oh the heady days when Labour weren't neo Conservatives.

Edit....sorry, it got rebranded as neo Liberalism didn't it. My mistake.
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 19:20 - Sep 21 with 2384 viewsBlueBadger

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 19:18 - Sep 21 by BanksterDebtSlave

Oh the heady days when Labour weren't neo Conservatives.

Edit....sorry, it got rebranded as neo Liberalism didn't it. My mistake.
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Besh1tted rivers and beaches and reduced workplace protections are CORNERSTONES of socialism, after all.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 19:26 - Sep 21 with 2361 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 19:20 - Sep 21 by BlueBadger

Besh1tted rivers and beaches and reduced workplace protections are CORNERSTONES of socialism, after all.


And yet...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/21/italy-po-valley-blighted-air-pollu
.....keep lapping it up!

More...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/20/revealed-almost-everyone-in-
...but they care about people not business interests they really do. #owned

Edit 4...I predict silence.


Edit 2....to think you did so much to undermine a genuine alternative to neo Conservatism....the irony!

Edit 3...Read it and weep
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/11/eu-to-drop-ban-of-hazardous-

Edit 5....insert edit 4 here.
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 19:48 - Sep 21 with 2324 viewsDaninthecampo

The stronger members of the EU have been talking about an EU2 for the last couple of years, the UK have been involved since the start.
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 20:01 - Sep 21 with 2296 viewsWeWereZombies

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 19:48 - Sep 21 by Daninthecampo

The stronger members of the EU have been talking about an EU2 for the last couple of years, the UK have been involved since the start.


This EU2 stuff, are people working pro Bono ?

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 13:09 - Sep 22 with 2048 viewsRimsy

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:48 - Sep 21 by Swansea_Blue

Can't see past the paywall, but interesting to note that France and Germany are now scoping the nature of our likely future. So much control.

Edit - "deciding" our future wasn't right, it just appears that Germany and France are laying out what the path could look like. Point stays the same though. We've gone from being at the top table shaping things to being a receiver.
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When we're we ever shaping things. More often than not we vetoed or voted against on anything of note.

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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 13:34 - Sep 22 with 2017 viewsjayessess

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:51 - Sep 21 by StokieBlue

Just join again.

Sure, we won't have our veto, rebate or the pound but that's just something we would have to accept. The trend in the support for joining is fairly clear:

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/45910-britons-would-vote-rejoin-eu?redire

SB


This iteration of the Labour Party are far too scared of their own shadow to actively advocate for rejoining.

It'll be some sort of Associate membership where UK takes most EU rules in exchange for getting most of the (fairly obvious) economic benefits back, but that still has some sort of plausible deniability where they can tell the most uninterested fraction of Brexiteers that they still got their Brexit.
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This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 14:00 - Sep 22 with 1974 viewsMattinLondon

This EU associate membership thing that Starmer has likely been discussing on 13:34 - Sep 22 by jayessess

This iteration of the Labour Party are far too scared of their own shadow to actively advocate for rejoining.

It'll be some sort of Associate membership where UK takes most EU rules in exchange for getting most of the (fairly obvious) economic benefits back, but that still has some sort of plausible deniability where they can tell the most uninterested fraction of Brexiteers that they still got their Brexit.
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It won’t happen of course, but I do think that it’ll be interesting if the Tories suddenly performed a gigantic U-Turn and proposed rejoining the EU but on the same terms which the country left.

They’ll have Labour on the ropes - will they campaign to stay out in the next election which will attract the rabid brexiters. Or echo the Tories and risk being seen as their shadow and not having policies of their own.

It’ll put a lot of people in a very awkward position.
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