| How good (relatively) is McKenna? 11:31 - Sep 25 with 8160 views | SmithersJones |
Having this debate with my QPR supporting son yesterday. I honestly think he's in the top 5 in England right now. Which sounds crazy, as we're the 22nd best team, but outside of Guardiola, Ange, Klop, maybe Arteta I'm struggling to see many who wouldn't be a downgrade if they came here. Certainly he's got to be right up there as one of the best British managers currently. |  | | |  |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:55 - Sep 25 with 2410 views | Stewart27 |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:38 - Sep 25 by AlanG296 |
It was 98 actually and we finished just 2 points ahead of a basket case club.
An exceptional last third of the season saved us after a deep mid season slump and we'll never know what would have happened if we hadn't had the means to sign the 4 in January who incidentally all scored on Saturday.
Let's judge McKenna on this season when he has financial disadvantages against many of the opponents rather than the financial advantages he had over virtually everyone last season.
So far, so very good. |
I’ve never ever heard our incredible season spun like this before.
Are you a politician? Or just a bid of a wet fanny?
Who can ever forget that awful season defining period where we drew a few games. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:01 - Sep 25 with 2406 views | Simonds92 |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:38 - Sep 25 by AlanG296 |
It was 98 actually and we finished just 2 points ahead of a basket case club.
An exceptional last third of the season saved us after a deep mid season slump and we'll never know what would have happened if we hadn't had the means to sign the 4 in January who incidentally all scored on Saturday.
Let's judge McKenna on this season when he has financial disadvantages against many of the opponents rather than the financial advantages he had over virtually everyone last season.
So far, so very good. |
Lets wait until Pep takes over at Bournemouth before we decide if he's any good. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:07 - Sep 25 with 2385 views | GeoffSentence |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
You must admit that McKenna has done really well when you factor in that he is working for a franchise and in charge of a bunch of mercenaries. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:08 - Sep 25 with 2372 views | GeoffSentence |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:55 - Sep 25 by Stewart27 |
I’ve never ever heard our incredible season spun like this before.
Are you a politician? Or just a bid of a wet fanny?
Who can ever forget that awful season defining period where we drew a few games. |
You can't have crossed paths with the Elephant of Doom before then. It's all like this. Tediously so. | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:26 - Sep 25 with 2329 views | MattinLondon |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:16 - Sep 25 by _clive_baker_ |
Are you aware that a season is 46 games long? Over the course of the season we amassed 98 points, scored 101 goals and lost 4 games. Our points haul in the first half was similar to the 2nd.
There is absolute no case that we only went up owing to 'a basket case'. They got 96 points ffs and we still finished above them. |
I don’t particularly understand why some on here insisted that we were fortunate that Wednesday bottled automatic promotion - they still averaged two points per game for their last fifteen matches. They didn’t really let their guard down at all. Our form, and Plymouths as well was exceptional. |  | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:27 - Sep 25 with 2325 views | hoppy |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:54 - Sep 25 by Keno |
Spot on Homey
actually on reflection he's a bit 'meh' and I wouldn't think any other team should be interested |
Not to mention how smarmy he is... |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:36 - Sep 25 with 2304 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
He's certainly one of the best Irish managers.
Right now, to take a group of players, some of which had only been League One, bottom half of Championship players previously and turned them into a fight till the death, great attacking, decent football team in the space of two seasons after we spent 20 years rotting is a hell of a job, as we look like we will stay up at the very least and we're far from the finished article.
I'd say the best is yet to come. |  | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:54 - Sep 25 with 2274 views | Vegtablue |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:26 - Sep 25 by MattinLondon |
I don’t particularly understand why some on here insisted that we were fortunate that Wednesday bottled automatic promotion - they still averaged two points per game for their last fifteen matches. They didn’t really let their guard down at all. Our form, and Plymouths as well was exceptional. |
They won five of their last six and then the playoffs! They had a dreadful result against Forest Green and followed it with three draws, which gave the impression the wheels had come off while we were tonking all comers for six and Plymouth were relentless. In reality it was a mini blip and they finished the season with only four losses. They've set a record for third place that may never be beaten. What happened afterwards was basket-casery of the highest order and they are surely now doomed already. | | | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:57 - Sep 25 with 2259 views | Vegtablue |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:36 - Sep 25 by ChampionsofInnsbruck |
He's certainly one of the best Irish managers.
Right now, to take a group of players, some of which had only been League One, bottom half of Championship players previously and turned them into a fight till the death, great attacking, decent football team in the space of two seasons after we spent 20 years rotting is a hell of a job, as we look like we will stay up at the very least and we're far from the finished article.
I'd say the best is yet to come. |
I'm probably being ignorant here. Which current Irish managers are you putting in his company? | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:59 - Sep 25 with 2254 views | blueasfook |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
How much did we spend last season? I bet there were teams who spent more, and we certainly havent been one of the big spenders in the Championship this season. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 15:03 - Sep 25 with 2245 views | BigCommon |
Hes a good coach with 12years learning behind him. Hes in a a nice first job in comfortable solid surroundings, with a club and board that are backing him... Last season was difficult to judge KMs ability, fully, imo. As we had one of the best squads in L1, and added Championship quality in January. However, its still a great achievement getting us promoted whilst spinning lots of plates in transforming our entire set up and ethos..
I think this season, with one of the lowest budgets in the Championship, and a squad, on paper at least, that is middle of the Rd. He is showing that he can get the best out of his chosen players, and then some. And thats all you can do as a coach/manager..
Hes well groomed, isnt he? The way he comes across in the media, he oozes confidence and self belief, which he obviously sells well to the players, who, in turn, develope more of their own belief and confidence... All of these things can only happen in the right environment. Atm, Ipswich is the right environment for KM. Its perfect when you think of it. As we hopefully progress and find ourselves in more difficult scenarios, with high stakes matches and real pressure building. McKenna can experience and overcome those situations, as he hones himself into a great coach with added, proven experience. Without that experience on his CV. He is probably, slightly limited in terms of where he could go next. No matter how good we think he is, or might be, imo.
When you listen to his early interviews about his own career path. I can't see him jumping ship, unless everything is perfect for him, personally, and his family, to do so.
Hes got age/time on his side, to pick and chose the perfect moments. In much the same way, as a boxer choses his fights, to get to the very top of the ladder...Hes not a 50 something looking for a payday at a massive club..
There is also a constant caveat when we discuss KM.. That being, he has a very hard working team of coaches working alongside him. Our achievements are a huge group effort. With KM as the front man. |  | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 16:05 - Sep 25 with 2189 views | ChampionsofInnsbruck |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:57 - Sep 25 by Vegtablue |
I'm probably being ignorant here. Which current Irish managers are you putting in his company? |
Paddy McCarthy , Chris Hughton, Owen Coyle, Neil Lennon, Brendan Rogers, Mark Kennedy, Graham Coughlan, Michael Duff, and Grant McCann so I would say he is probably one of the best right now, so no wonder he's being eyed up for the Ireland job! Of course out of work you have Martin O'Neil, Roy Keane, Mick McCarthy and a few others. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 16:14 - Sep 25 with 2165 views | GavTWTD |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 16:17 - Sep 25 with 2140 views | BlueBadger |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:26 - Sep 25 by MattinLondon |
I don’t particularly understand why some on here insisted that we were fortunate that Wednesday bottled automatic promotion - they still averaged two points per game for their last fifteen matches. They didn’t really let their guard down at all. Our form, and Plymouths as well was exceptional. |
Desperate budgies gonna desperate budgie. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 17:31 - Sep 25 with 2105 views | BlueBadger |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 16:14 - Sep 25 by GavTWTD |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 17:40 - Sep 25 with 2093 views | _clive_baker_ |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 14:26 - Sep 25 by MattinLondon |
I don’t particularly understand why some on here insisted that we were fortunate that Wednesday bottled automatic promotion - they still averaged two points per game for their last fifteen matches. They didn’t really let their guard down at all. Our form, and Plymouths as well was exceptional. |
Yeah, they had a blip for about 3 weeks in March. Otherwise were pretty relentlessly effectively at picking up points, as were Plymouth and as evidenced by their 101 and 96 points totals. Similarly we had our blip a couple of months earlier. It happens over a season, but to finish 2nd on 98 points, with 101 goals and having lost 4 games all season and have it down to us being fortunate that the team in 3rd didn't get 99 points is ridiculous. |  | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 18:10 - Sep 25 with 2043 views | FrimleyBlue |
So.
Firstly. Expectation was to get promoted last season. It had to be the minimum expectation. He didn't just do that, he made us one of the most exciting teams to watch in the efl.
He had a spell of less than great form. He however knew how to overcome this and got us that expected promotion.
This season imo so far is just ridiculous. The football on show is special. The attacking phases of play. The balance between defence and midfield. The bravery to play from the back.. it comes from the management team first of all.
I don't think anyone can question how good at present he is. How this compares to other managers really depends in clubs set ups. What are they achieving against what support they have.
Kieron has everything he needs to take us up.
His future tests imo begin in the new year when we lose players to cup competitions. That's his next big test imo. He's had the luxury which is down to the medical team where he's been able to pretty much play his best 11 every game. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 18:42 - Sep 25 with 2015 views | BlueBadger |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 11:54 - Sep 25 by Keno |
Spot on Homey
actually on reflection he's a bit 'meh' and I wouldn't think any other team should be interested |
Quite smarmy, too. | |
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| [Redacted] on 19:15 - Sep 25 with 1993 views | victorywilhappen |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 18:10 - Sep 25 by FrimleyBlue |
So.
Firstly. Expectation was to get promoted last season. It had to be the minimum expectation. He didn't just do that, he made us one of the most exciting teams to watch in the efl.
He had a spell of less than great form. He however knew how to overcome this and got us that expected promotion.
This season imo so far is just ridiculous. The football on show is special. The attacking phases of play. The balance between defence and midfield. The bravery to play from the back.. it comes from the management team first of all.
I don't think anyone can question how good at present he is. How this compares to other managers really depends in clubs set ups. What are they achieving against what support they have.
Kieron has everything he needs to take us up.
His future tests imo begin in the new year when we lose players to cup competitions. That's his next big test imo. He's had the luxury which is down to the medical team where he's been able to pretty much play his best 11 every game. |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 19:20 - Sep 25 with 1972 views | FrimleyBlue |
League game.. I can't remember many games since Jan where we've had 3/4 what you'd call regulars... not available
Morsy and luongo have pretty much been weekly.
Chaplin.. has he missed many?
Wolfy... when we his last injury?
Really fullbacks have been the problem.but as you say we've been covered.
We haven't tho had a run imo without the likes of morsy. Luongo. Chaplin.. in the league since Jan.
If I'm wrong. Fair enough. | |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 20:01 - Sep 25 with 1953 views | deano85 |
Teams with 20+ league wins in England's top four divisions this calendar year:
• Pep Guardiola's Manchester City
• Kieran McKenna's Ipswich Town
(Taken from a well known betting websites Facebook...) [Post edited 25 Sep 2023 20:04]
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 20:08 - Sep 25 with 1946 views | Trequartista |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 16:14 - Sep 25 by GavTWTD |
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There was some grudging praise in there, take the win. |  |
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| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 20:14 - Sep 25 with 1942 views | SmithersJones |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 13:38 - Sep 25 by itfcsuth |
I think the real question here is why's your son supporting QPR and not Ipswich? |
Local team, and I think for a kid there’s something to be said for supporting a team you can go and watch. Although I think he’s veering more towards Ipswich now (and asked for the blackout kit for Christmas). He’s 22 now, so a late bid for glory hunting. | | | |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 20:44 - Sep 25 with 1912 views | Churchman |
| How good (relatively) is McKenna? on 12:10 - Sep 25 by ElephantintheRoom |
Not very based on last season - when despite a huge financial advantage Town very nearly contrived not to get promoted - and still came second to Plymouth who lived within their means and lost key players mid season.
Quite good judged on this season - though it is a tad early to be crowing just yet
He always sounds impressive - which helps. And you can’t imagine him ‘losing the dressing room’ whilst dealing with the calibre of players Town have at present. |
Why bother posting that? If you are saying he’s a money grabbing charlatan working for the money grabbing franchise debt peddlers (whatever that is) just say so. If you are saying you’d boot him out in a heartbeat for Schumacher, fine. Say it.
The question is simple. How good is McKenna? It’s not about ‘crowing’ about anything, yet you choose to dispense your usual bitter poison. Your loss. Still Norwich and the Bristol clubs are going pretty well.
Personally I think McKenna is excellent. Those who really support this club will recognise that. |  | | |
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