| Imagine if we could defend! 09:26 - Oct 1 with 6897 views | Wallingford_Boy |
How good we’d be!
Obviously we’ve paid big cash for Tuanzebe to not just sit on the bench, but who does he replace?
Burgess for me.
Williams in for Clarke too.
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:33 - Oct 1 with 4422 views | Westcountryblue |
Eventually, i see Tuanzebe and Williams playing in the back 4.
Burgess has been great and will continue to be a big asset to the team. His ability the air would be useful off the bench defending leads late on in games.
Same with Hutchinson, i can see Burns losing his place in the next few months. |  | | |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:40 - Oct 1 with 4386 views | thatbdude |
Defence is definitely our biggest weakest ATM. I like Burgess but I could tell he would struggle in this league |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:50 - Oct 1 with 4337 views | blueislander |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:40 - Oct 1 by thatbdude |
Defence is definitely our biggest weakest ATM. I like Burgess but I could tell he would struggle in this league |
Has Burgess struggled so far? | | | |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:53 - Oct 1 with 4315 views | Herbivore |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:50 - Oct 1 by blueislander |
Has Burgess struggled so far? |
Not really, no. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:58 - Oct 1 with 4296 views | Dubtractor |
We've only let in 2 goals in 5 away games - not exactly bad defending!
Obviously we're a bit gung ho in our tactics at home, but we've got the goalscoring as well as the goals conceded as a result. [Post edited 1 Oct 2023 15:45]
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:04 - Oct 1 with 4273 views | Guthrum |
I think we're likely to see a bit of game-by-game rotation, depending upon the opposition's strengths. Including Baggott in the mix as he matures.
Equally, I could be wrong and Tuanzebe might be this season's Luongo - player with a poor injury record who transforms into a rock for ITFC. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:13 - Oct 1 with 4229 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
How much is the "big cash" we have paid out for Tuanzebe. That said, I do expect him to start when available to.
Much as defence has been identified as a weakness further up this thread, we have kept a clean sheet in 4 out of 9 league matches. Leeds scored 3 goals against us in a poor 10 minute spell. We have conceded more than one goal in 3 out of our 9 matches.
It will be interesting to see who Tuanzebe replaces. Time will tell but the decision could easily be made by injury at the time. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:19 - Oct 1 with 4189 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:13 - Oct 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
How much is the "big cash" we have paid out for Tuanzebe. That said, I do expect him to start when available to.
Much as defence has been identified as a weakness further up this thread, we have kept a clean sheet in 4 out of 9 league matches. Leeds scored 3 goals against us in a poor 10 minute spell. We have conceded more than one goal in 3 out of our 9 matches.
It will be interesting to see who Tuanzebe replaces. Time will tell but the decision could easily be made by injury at the time. |
"How much is the "big cash" we have paid out for Tuanzebe."
Thought the same thing, but assumed the OP was talking about wages, especially as he was unable to agree a deal with Premier League Luton.
That being said, Luton could have been offering him a pay as you play type deal for all I know. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:19 - Oct 1 with 4192 views | davblue |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:40 - Oct 1 by thatbdude |
Defence is definitely our biggest weakest ATM. I like Burgess but I could tell he would struggle in this league |
I feel like Clarke is the weakest link in the defence so far. It feels like we have conceded more from the right than the left but I don’t have anything to back that up with facts, so it’s probably incorrect!
He’s a work in progress still. Burgess has been fine, can we improve on him yeah we can if we can get Axel fit he could be a big upgrade.
I thought we were loose in both full back positions against Blackburn we do need to tighten up at the back going forward. |  | | |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:26 - Oct 1 with 4162 views | ArnieM |
He’s a right sided CB ( looking at all the videos of him) so I’d say that makes Woolfies place at potential risk. Axel is very good in the air, and excellent at bringing the ball out. It’ll be interesting to see how McKenna wants to play him. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:26 - Oct 1 with 4163 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:19 - Oct 1 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"How much is the "big cash" we have paid out for Tuanzebe."
Thought the same thing, but assumed the OP was talking about wages, especially as he was unable to agree a deal with Premier League Luton.
That being said, Luton could have been offering him a pay as you play type deal for all I know. |
We have no idea what Luton were offering. I also feel it is quite possible we could have offered a package that appealed to resurrect his career and had a significantly lower initial salary. I am sure Luton would have included relegation clauses (assuming it was more than a year) and we would include a promotion clause.
It is also clear that his pedigree is such he will play if fit. Would Luton have definitely played him? | |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:30 - Oct 1 with 4141 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:26 - Oct 1 by Nthsuffolkblue |
We have no idea what Luton were offering. I also feel it is quite possible we could have offered a package that appealed to resurrect his career and had a significantly lower initial salary. I am sure Luton would have included relegation clauses (assuming it was more than a year) and we would include a promotion clause.
It is also clear that his pedigree is such he will play if fit. Would Luton have definitely played him? |
No idea if Luton would have played him, probably given the goals they are conceding. Equally, given how well we are going, none of our summer signings are exactly getting masses of game time (excluding Hirst).
But, I take your point. | |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:31 - Oct 1 with 4135 views | thatbdude |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:50 - Oct 1 by blueislander |
Has Burgess struggled so far? |
Well yes and no. Clarke is definitely struggling more so I will take back my statement earlier and apologise | |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:32 - Oct 1 with 4128 views | bournemouthblue |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:40 - Oct 1 by thatbdude |
Defence is definitely our biggest weakest ATM. I like Burgess but I could tell he would struggle in this league |
I do think yesterday's game was his kryptonite, you don't want him left in a running race with a winger with no cover
Huddersfield were good at kicking the ball into channels when we were pushed up the pitch, they exploited that really well |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:36 - Oct 1 with 4085 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Outside Leicester we have one of the best defences in the division. What are you talking about?! |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:40 - Oct 1 with 4058 views | Whos_blue |
I do struggle a bit with these bold statements.
Our defensive record holds up against most others in the division.
To infer we can't defend just isn't backed up by facts. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:42 - Oct 1 with 4046 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 09:40 - Oct 1 by thatbdude |
Defence is definitely our biggest weakest ATM. I like Burgess but I could tell he would struggle in this league |
Struggled so much he was called up by Australia! Do some people who comment actually watch games? | | | |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:56 - Oct 1 with 3960 views | thatbdude |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:42 - Oct 1 by benrhyddingblue |
Struggled so much he was called up by Australia! Do some people who comment actually watch games? |
Yes I can confirm I watch games | |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 11:04 - Oct 1 with 3909 views | BigCommon |
KM uses the word "bravery" a lot, in terms of describing how we try to play... He is clearly touching on us taking measured risks to get the rewards... I absolutely love this mindset. Yes, we will sometimes leave ourselves exposed , where players like Clarke, Wolfy, Burgess and even Leif can be overrun at times. And lets not forget, the step up in the standard of attackers we are facing is huge compared to L1 in this division.. So any defender, in any team can be made to look a "Charlie" at times..
Have we paid "big cash" for Tuanzebe? Came here on a free. And you'd like to think that we've been careful with a contract for a player with his injury record. Especially given how some of last seasons last ditch signings turned out...
KM is renowned as being one of the best defensive coaches out there. If you listen to Ole's interviews on him. So Im quite sure he could set us up a lot more defensively if our remit was to just hang around mid/bottom table nicking 0-0 and 1-0 results.. Something we might see at some point, if we find ourselves in a positiion where we are protecting a points lead, or if we got promoted and our remit was to hang in there and just stay up..
We've been told "we are going to attack this division", and "we are going to be brave". Its going to expose us defensively at times. No matter who plays.. So, imo, focus is on our forwards to get something. Which they are doing, as we are yet to blank and we're sitting top , amongst the divisions highest scorers.
For the record, imo, for out and out backs to the wall defending. I think Burgess is our stand out defender. And hes got the plaudits in most of our tight away matches to back that up. Hladky. too, has earned his corn. |  | | |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 11:09 - Oct 1 with 3886 views | BlueBadger |
'ArnieM tribute act' wasn't the next TWTD trolling trend I'd predicted, got to be say. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 11:12 - Oct 1 with 3836 views | FrimleyBlue |
Can't say I feel either cbs struggle.
Any issues we've had really have come from the sides. Which KM has said at times he aims to stop teams through the middle and invite them wide..
This for me shows there is something missing here occasionally. And perhaps why we indeed saw williams come on for clarke.
Yesterday neither burns or hutchinson were offering much cover to the fullbacks. This didn't help. For hutchinson is was harder as he was roaming everywhere playing the broady role.
What is key is that midfielder who's covering the defence.
Whilst morsy has been excellent if you look back at some conceded goals his contribution in those has been obvious where he's stood off a player and enabled them to hurt us.
Yesterday Evans was pretty much unfortunately involved in 80% of Huddersfield shots at goal. Just watched the highlights again and literally in all the huddersfield highlights Evans has struggled to actually close the man down. Offered them onto their stronger foot to get shots off etc.
So no I don't agree our issue is defence itself. When the midfield is on it.. we minimise the potential to concede but when it's not we've seen how easy it is to gets shots in at our goal.
What will be interesting is Walton v hladky.
I don't personally feel Walton saves maybe 3 of those shots Yesterday. Hladky imo Is more agile. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 11:38 - Oct 1 with 3767 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 11:12 - Oct 1 by FrimleyBlue |
Can't say I feel either cbs struggle.
Any issues we've had really have come from the sides. Which KM has said at times he aims to stop teams through the middle and invite them wide..
This for me shows there is something missing here occasionally. And perhaps why we indeed saw williams come on for clarke.
Yesterday neither burns or hutchinson were offering much cover to the fullbacks. This didn't help. For hutchinson is was harder as he was roaming everywhere playing the broady role.
What is key is that midfielder who's covering the defence.
Whilst morsy has been excellent if you look back at some conceded goals his contribution in those has been obvious where he's stood off a player and enabled them to hurt us.
Yesterday Evans was pretty much unfortunately involved in 80% of Huddersfield shots at goal. Just watched the highlights again and literally in all the huddersfield highlights Evans has struggled to actually close the man down. Offered them onto their stronger foot to get shots off etc.
So no I don't agree our issue is defence itself. When the midfield is on it.. we minimise the potential to concede but when it's not we've seen how easy it is to gets shots in at our goal.
What will be interesting is Walton v hladky.
I don't personally feel Walton saves maybe 3 of those shots Yesterday. Hladky imo Is more agile. |
As you say the issue is down the flanks and I don’t see that changing given that a lot of our attack is based on the FBs bombing forward. They will inevitably leave gaps.
I wonder whether we’ll end up playing 3CBs to accommodate Tuanzebe. | |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 13:39 - Oct 1 with 3592 views | Illinoisblue |
It’s outrageous we don’t keep a clean sheet every game. |  |
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 13:51 - Oct 1 with 3558 views | Churchman |
Our goals against is better than the majority of the Championship to date. Could it be better? Of course. But so could every aspect of our game in theory.
I’ve no doubt KM and co are working on it, particularly Clarke’s side where at PR teams have got some counter attack joy.
On the subject and thinking of the goals at home we have conceded, more than one have been excellent goals. I doubt many teams could have stopped two of Blackburn’s three. One of two Leeds goals were excellent and Ramsey’s for Cardiff was good too.
Sometimes you have to accept the opposition have the right to do stuff well, especially given the Championship is less forgiving than L1. We are doing well, regardless of Leicester’s result and hopefully we will improve too. [Post edited 1 Oct 2023 18:46]
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| Imagine if we could defend! on 14:09 - Oct 1 with 3458 views | DavoIPB |
| Imagine if we could defend! on 10:26 - Oct 1 by ArnieM |
He’s a right sided CB ( looking at all the videos of him) so I’d say that makes Woolfies place at potential risk. Axel is very good in the air, and excellent at bringing the ball out. It’ll be interesting to see how McKenna wants to play him. |
I would say woolfie. His positional play has been really poor this season. Burgess covers Davis if he goes forward but woolfie does not do the same. Woolfie gets muscled off the ball as well. | | | |
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