| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. 10:04 - Nov 13 with 7773 views | Mercian |
I am sure David Cameron is no longer an MP. |  | | |  |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:06 - Nov 13 with 5185 views | baxterbasics |
He isn’t an MP but doesn’t have to be. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:06 - Nov 13 with 5185 views | bluelagos |
Lord Cameron, just been appointed according to Sky. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:08 - Nov 13 with 5166 views | EdwardStone |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:06 - Nov 13 by bluelagos |
Lord Cameron, just been appointed according to Sky. |
Lord Pigpoker of Witney.... allegedly |  | | |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:09 - Nov 13 with 5157 views | DJR |
He may well be the first non-MP to hold one of the Great Offices of State since Lord Carrington.
What a modern democracy we have. |  | | |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:10 - Nov 13 with 5135 views | NthQldITFC |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:08 - Nov 13 by EdwardStone |
Lord Pigpoker of Witney.... allegedly |
Baron Bacon? |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:13 - Nov 13 with 5094 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:10 - Nov 13 by NthQldITFC |
Baron Bacon? |
The Duke of Danish... |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:15 - Nov 13 with 5074 views | homer_123 |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:13 - Nov 13 by Ewan_Oozami |
The Duke of Danish... |
Streaky fecker. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:18 - Nov 13 with 5044 views | BlueBadger |
Reminder here that Cameron isn't a 'moderate Tory', he's the incompetent and corrupt austerity and privatisation obsessed sociopath who's the reason we're in this mess as a country. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:19 - Nov 13 with 5031 views | NthQldITFC |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:10 - Nov 13 by NthQldITFC |
Baron Bacon? |
Baron Bacon-Banger, perhaps? | |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:21 - Nov 13 with 5018 views | Guthrum |
No. Indeed, you don't actually need to be in Parliament at all. They are Ministers of the Crown.
That having been said, it would be very difficult to function effectively outside of the parliamentary system - and not easy to hold a great office of state while outside the Commons*. Alec Douglas-Home disclaimed his hereditary peerage upon becoming Prime Minister in 1963 for that reason. It hasn't been usual for a senior minister to be in the Lords since the end of the 19th century (barring the Lord Chancellor/Leader of the HoL).
* They can't speak at debates or answer questions, they can't vote in divisions. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:45 - Nov 13 with 4909 views | Guthrum |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:18 - Nov 13 by BlueBadger |
Reminder here that Cameron isn't a 'moderate Tory', he's the incompetent and corrupt austerity and privatisation obsessed sociopath who's the reason we're in this mess as a country. |
Strictly speaking that was George Osborne, but Cameron was his boss and appointed him. | |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:49 - Nov 13 with 4886 views | factual_blue |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:21 - Nov 13 by Guthrum |
No. Indeed, you don't actually need to be in Parliament at all. They are Ministers of the Crown.
That having been said, it would be very difficult to function effectively outside of the parliamentary system - and not easy to hold a great office of state while outside the Commons*. Alec Douglas-Home disclaimed his hereditary peerage upon becoming Prime Minister in 1963 for that reason. It hasn't been usual for a senior minister to be in the Lords since the end of the 19th century (barring the Lord Chancellor/Leader of the HoL).
* They can't speak at debates or answer questions, they can't vote in divisions. |
They could of course stand him as candidate in the next by-election.
Ahhh.... |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:50 - Nov 13 with 4875 views | factual_blue |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:08 - Nov 13 by EdwardStone |
Lord Pigpoker of Witney.... allegedly |
Lord Greensill of Lobbying | |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:14 - Nov 13 with 4837 views | tractordownsouth |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:18 - Nov 13 by BlueBadger |
Reminder here that Cameron isn't a 'moderate Tory', he's the incompetent and corrupt austerity and privatisation obsessed sociopath who's the reason we're in this mess as a country. |
One of my political pet peeves is how Cameron is described as centrist just because he looks good in a suit. Socially liberal yes but economically more right wing than Johnson, May and probably Sunak too. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:16 - Nov 13 with 4816 views | chicoazul |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:14 - Nov 13 by tractordownsouth |
One of my political pet peeves is how Cameron is described as centrist just because he looks good in a suit. Socially liberal yes but economically more right wing than Johnson, May and probably Sunak too. |
Lulz
You guys and your zany definitions of right wing |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:21 - Nov 13 with 4786 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:14 - Nov 13 by tractordownsouth |
One of my political pet peeves is how Cameron is described as centrist just because he looks good in a suit. Socially liberal yes but economically more right wing than Johnson, May and probably Sunak too. |
^Yes, very much this.
As for Ministers outside of Parliament, Zac Goldsmith springs to mind. Mandelson too back under Labour.(I can't remember whether that was under Blair or Brown). Both of those were at least answerable to one of the two Houses though. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:24 - Nov 13 with 4747 views | Guthrum |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:16 - Nov 13 by chicoazul |
Lulz
You guys and your zany definitions of right wing |
How would you define modern right-wing economics, if not maximal deregulation, minimal taxation and reduction of the state by all means? | |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:25 - Nov 13 with 4743 views | tractordownsouth |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:16 - Nov 13 by chicoazul |
Lulz
You guys and your zany definitions of right wing |
You think May or Johnson were more economically right wing than Cameron? Interested to see the working on this | |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:30 - Nov 13 with 4717 views | WeWereZombies |
Never mind that, why didn't Phil post a Cleverly and Cameron imminent news item ? There wasn't even a TWTD understands, maybe this is fake news after all.
Cameron relieving Sunak of being Prime Minister next month ?
Edit: Left 'Phil' out of this, perhaps I should have left it that way. [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 11:31]
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:34 - Nov 13 with 4697 views | Keno |
come on to be a Tory minister dont you even have to be competent, honest, decent or human [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 11:44]
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:38 - Nov 13 with 4674 views | Churchman |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 10:08 - Nov 13 by EdwardStone |
Lord Pigpoker of Witney.... allegedly |
Lord Pork Scratching. |  | | |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:40 - Nov 13 with 4662 views | factual_blue |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:34 - Nov 13 by Keno |
come on to be a Tory minister dont you even have to be competent, honest, decent or human [Post edited 13 Nov 2023 11:44]
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I hope you've missed out a 'don't' in there Mr K. | |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:44 - Nov 13 with 4625 views | Pinewoodblue |
Wonder who will make statements on Foreign policy in HoC. Mitchell presumably unless Sunak does it himself, in the style of Thatcher. |  |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:45 - Nov 13 with 4613 views | BlueBadger |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:16 - Nov 13 by chicoazul |
Lulz
You guys and your zany definitions of right wing |
You're the Frimmers of general posting Chickers. | |
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| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:45 - Nov 13 with 4610 views | Keno |
| I thought you had to be an MP to be a government minister. on 11:40 - Nov 13 by factual_blue |
I hope you've missed out a 'don't' in there Mr K. |
just shows how far edukation standids has slipped under the Toerags | |
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