| Travis to start against Sunderland? 08:33 - Jan 9 with 10936 views | Dubtractor |
McKenna doesn't tend to make a habit of throwing players in at the deep end, but we can't play at the tempo we need with Ball playing, and McKenna seems reluctant to pair Luongo and Taylor.
Really hoping that Davis is back as he's so important to how we play, and feels like an important game to win to keep things ticking over. |  |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 11:31 - Jan 9 with 2095 views | Jon_456 |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 10:38 - Jan 9 by itfcsuth |
Depends on fitness I guess - only the staff will be able to make that judgement call.
Fully fit, I would start Travis.
Hladky
Clarke - Woolfenden - Edmundson - Humphreys
Travis - Luongo
Burns - Chaplin - Harness
Broadhead |
In terms of fitness, Travis has played most amount of football this year.
Dom Ball - 457 minutes
Jack Taylor - 978 minutes
Lewis Travis - 1,290 minutes
Based on KM not seeming too keen on Taylor & Mass paired together, you would assume it would be one of those paired with Travis. |  | | |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 18:11 - Jan 9 with 1917 views | GlasgowBlue |
Luongo was the exception as he had no game time leading up to joining us and he was injured. Both Hirst, Broadhead* and Clarke were thrown straight in iirc.
*Broadhead one game later as he slept in a strange bed that week.
edit. He also threw Leif Davis straight in after only arriving from Australia a couple of days earlier. Which was a mistake, as he was well off it on hi debut. [Post edited 9 Jan 2024 18:13]
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 18:27 - Jan 9 with 1885 views | Dubtractor |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 18:11 - Jan 9 by GlasgowBlue |
Luongo was the exception as he had no game time leading up to joining us and he was injured. Both Hirst, Broadhead* and Clarke were thrown straight in iirc.
*Broadhead one game later as he slept in a strange bed that week.
edit. He also threw Leif Davis straight in after only arriving from Australia a couple of days earlier. Which was a mistake, as he was well off it on hi debut. [Post edited 9 Jan 2024 18:13]
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That's all fair.
I think I was more looking at last Summers signings, who have taken longer to get up to speed. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 18:31 - Jan 9 with 1876 views | MK1 |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 10:30 - Jan 9 by orfordbuoy |
Why you attracted the usual culprits that police this forum with the usual insults for stating the obvious i.e. that we have no decent replacement for Hirst, is why most Town fans do not use this forum. |
And you are always the one defending his dribble. Both Norwich supporters or the same poster is my guess. Very sad. |  |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 19:11 - Jan 9 with 1828 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 11:18 - Jan 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No, he's attracted criticism because he said "it doesn't look like we'll have that person in time and intending to limp along with what we have on Saturday" when it's only Tuesday morning. We have no idea what will happen between now and Friday.
That is stating the obvious. |
Perhaps they don't see a striker signing starting Saturday regardless if they signed tomorrow.. they'd have possibly 1 training session before the game. So whilst he may be a bit wrong in the sense there's still a few days until Saturday... for a striker to get game time it's looking less likely. |  |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 19:15 - Jan 9 with 1817 views | USA |
He through Leif in. Didn’t go great. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 20:22 - Jan 9 with 1711 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 19:11 - Jan 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Perhaps they don't see a striker signing starting Saturday regardless if they signed tomorrow.. they'd have possibly 1 training session before the game. So whilst he may be a bit wrong in the sense there's still a few days until Saturday... for a striker to get game time it's looking less likely. |
And you accuse me of looking for a row.
What do you mean 1 training session before the game? There are 3 full days before the game. |  |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 20:30 - Jan 9 with 1696 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 20:22 - Jan 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
And you accuse me of looking for a row.
What do you mean 1 training session before the game? There are 3 full days before the game. |
I'm not looking for a row. Just showing an understanding of what the poster may have been saying.
There are 3 days you are correct.
But one of those days would be taken up with meetings. Medical. Signing. Etc etc.
Thursday perhaps you'd imagine is the intense pre match training session.
Fridays.. pre match body work, tactics etc.
So yeah. 1 day potentially of normal training.
It's no drama. Not a negative before you go there. Just that the poster maybe right that we wouldn't see a new striker Saturday even if he signed before hand. [Post edited 9 Jan 2024 20:40]
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| This is the team Dubster… Travis starts.. no Davis on 21:02 - Jan 9 with 1652 views | unstableblue |
——————-——Hladky
Axel———-Wolf———Edmundson—Clarke
—————-—-Travis——-Luongo
Burns———--——Chaplin———-Sarmiento
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I have seen it in my waters |  |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 23:04 - Jan 9 with 1608 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 20:30 - Jan 9 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm not looking for a row. Just showing an understanding of what the poster may have been saying.
There are 3 days you are correct.
But one of those days would be taken up with meetings. Medical. Signing. Etc etc.
Thursday perhaps you'd imagine is the intense pre match training session.
Fridays.. pre match body work, tactics etc.
So yeah. 1 day potentially of normal training.
It's no drama. Not a negative before you go there. Just that the poster maybe right that we wouldn't see a new striker Saturday even if he signed before hand. [Post edited 9 Jan 2024 20:40]
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You must giggle as you post your nonsense.
Moving the goalposts again. First you say training sessions... now you twist that to "normal training" and sprinkle in some more guff to make it fit your nothing argument (as if you know what goes on in the build-up to a game).
We've literally had players sign on a Friday and play on a Saturday.
Hilarious, as always. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 23:26 - Jan 9 with 1578 views | pointofblue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 10:38 - Jan 9 by itfcsuth |
Depends on fitness I guess - only the staff will be able to make that judgement call.
Fully fit, I would start Travis.
Hladky
Clarke - Woolfenden - Edmundson - Humphreys
Travis - Luongo
Burns - Chaplin - Harness
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I think McKenna may return to the team which played Stoke, but with tweaks.
Hladky
Tuanzebe - Woolfenden - Edmundson
Burns - Travis - Luongo - Clarke
Chaplin - Sarmiento
Broadhead
Though I presume Sarmiento has family in Ecuador, so it’ll be understandable if he’s been affected by ongoing events. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 00:41 - Jan 10 with 1517 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 23:04 - Jan 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You must giggle as you post your nonsense.
Moving the goalposts again. First you say training sessions... now you twist that to "normal training" and sprinkle in some more guff to make it fit your nothing argument (as if you know what goes on in the build-up to a game).
We've literally had players sign on a Friday and play on a Saturday.
Hilarious, as always. |
I wasn't aware there was an argument. I did also make it clear I wasn't 100%, certain of the training schedules leading upto a match day, I did say perhaps etc. But I'd be surprised if you had 2 normal training sessions on a Thursday and Friday with a game on the Saturday especially with the players saying how intense sessions are.
I can't remember the last Time KM signed a player 1 day before a game and then played them. Who was that? [Post edited 10 Jan 2024 8:15]
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 06:20 - Jan 10 with 1459 views | PioneerBlue |
I’m expecting Trav to start. I’m expecting Davis not to play based on what’s been said on his situ so far. Just a reading of the rune stones. | |
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| This is the team Dubster… Travis starts.. no Davis on 08:03 - Jan 10 with 1405 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| This is the team Dubster… Travis starts.. no Davis on 21:02 - Jan 9 by unstableblue |
——————-——Hladky
Axel———-Wolf———Edmundson—Clarke
—————-—-Travis——-Luongo
Burns———--——Chaplin———-Sarmiento
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I have seen it in my waters |
Yep - think that’ll be it | | | |
| This is the team Dubster… Travis starts.. no Davis on 08:05 - Jan 10 with 1402 views | BondiBlue |
| This is the team Dubster… Travis starts.. no Davis on 21:02 - Jan 9 by unstableblue |
——————-——Hladky
Axel———-Wolf———Edmundson—Clarke
—————-—-Travis——-Luongo
Burns———--——Chaplin———-Sarmiento
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I have seen it in my waters |
Do sunderland still play a high line? Mowbray was very attacking, not sure about beale. If they do, jackson will probably get the nod up top. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 08:17 - Jan 10 with 1386 views | SmithersJones |
How does the 25 man squad thing work in January? I presume we were at full capacity before the window opened, since when we’ve lost Scarlett and gained Sarmiento and Travis. Do we have to move someone on or deregister someone before Travis can play? Or are all bets off during the window? Or have I missed something really obvious? | | | |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 09:09 - Jan 10 with 1324 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 08:17 - Jan 10 by SmithersJones |
How does the 25 man squad thing work in January? I presume we were at full capacity before the window opened, since when we’ve lost Scarlett and gained Sarmiento and Travis. Do we have to move someone on or deregister someone before Travis can play? Or are all bets off during the window? Or have I missed something really obvious? |
New squad listings after window closed, assume in January it is current squad plus new signings. |  |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 09:37 - Jan 10 with 1283 views | itfcsuth |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 10:46 - Jan 9 by Pinewoodblue |
Travis has played enough to accumulate 7 yellows. |
Yes, looking at his minutes he should be ok actually.
Hasn't played a lot of football since the start of December, but would imagine he'll be fine.
In which case he starts. |  | | |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 16:10 - Jan 10 with 1168 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 00:41 - Jan 10 by FrimleyBlue |
I wasn't aware there was an argument. I did also make it clear I wasn't 100%, certain of the training schedules leading upto a match day, I did say perhaps etc. But I'd be surprised if you had 2 normal training sessions on a Thursday and Friday with a game on the Saturday especially with the players saying how intense sessions are.
I can't remember the last Time KM signed a player 1 day before a game and then played them. Who was that? [Post edited 10 Jan 2024 8:15]
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Again, twisting. Where have I said McKenna has signed a player on a Friday and played him on the Saturday? We have though, as a club, signed players on the Friday and then played them on the Saturday.
You mention Thursday and Friday - again being disingenuous. The comment was made on Tuesday morning. So if a player were signed on the Tuesday they'd have a bit of Tuesday, all of Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and a bit of Saturday morning for training with his new teammates (note: training doesn't necessarily mean running round a practice pitch, going over tactics is also training).
Anyway, I'm sure we're not just deciding to not bother signing a striker this week. We're obviously trying, but it's not that easy (especially with half decent strikers). | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 16:18 - Jan 10 with 1145 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 16:10 - Jan 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Again, twisting. Where have I said McKenna has signed a player on a Friday and played him on the Saturday? We have though, as a club, signed players on the Friday and then played them on the Saturday.
You mention Thursday and Friday - again being disingenuous. The comment was made on Tuesday morning. So if a player were signed on the Tuesday they'd have a bit of Tuesday, all of Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and a bit of Saturday morning for training with his new teammates (note: training doesn't necessarily mean running round a practice pitch, going over tactics is also training).
Anyway, I'm sure we're not just deciding to not bother signing a striker this week. We're obviously trying, but it's not that easy (especially with half decent strikers). |
"Again, twisting. Where have I said McKenna has signed a player on a Friday and played him on the Saturday? We have though, as a club, signed players on the Friday and then played them on the Saturday."
Erm flash it's not twisting. Our current manager is KM, it doesn't matter what other managers do, some managers if they had the chance would throw a player in if he signed at 12 and we kicked off at 1 on the same day. We also which is publicly known, have a much deeper behind the scenes team in regards to fitness regimes, match fitness sign offs etc, so again what other managers would have done has nothing to do with this conversation and why I didn't think a striker would end up into the side saturday even if they signed on the wednesday.
His and your comment was made tuesday morning correct, my first reply however said
"Perhaps they don't see a striker signing starting Saturday regardless if they signed tomorrow.." IF i were talking about the potential of a tuesday afternoon signing, then I'd have stated Tuesday afternoon signing.
I do agree with your final point, however I don't see anyone saying we're not bothering signing anyone unless of course i've misread someones post. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 17:05 - Jan 10 with 1087 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 16:18 - Jan 10 by FrimleyBlue |
"Again, twisting. Where have I said McKenna has signed a player on a Friday and played him on the Saturday? We have though, as a club, signed players on the Friday and then played them on the Saturday."
Erm flash it's not twisting. Our current manager is KM, it doesn't matter what other managers do, some managers if they had the chance would throw a player in if he signed at 12 and we kicked off at 1 on the same day. We also which is publicly known, have a much deeper behind the scenes team in regards to fitness regimes, match fitness sign offs etc, so again what other managers would have done has nothing to do with this conversation and why I didn't think a striker would end up into the side saturday even if they signed on the wednesday.
His and your comment was made tuesday morning correct, my first reply however said
"Perhaps they don't see a striker signing starting Saturday regardless if they signed tomorrow.." IF i were talking about the potential of a tuesday afternoon signing, then I'd have stated Tuesday afternoon signing.
I do agree with your final point, however I don't see anyone saying we're not bothering signing anyone unless of course i've misread someones post. |
Christ, the hoops you jump through.
Firstly - no, no managers would throw a player in at 1 when they signed at 12, as it's against the rules. However, McKenna does have form for throwing players in quickly - Leif Davis went straight in after only arriving from Australia a couple of days earlier. Then there's Hirst and Clarke, who were pretty much thrown straight in.
You are twisting THE HELL out of what's been said. You said there would likely be one training session between Wednesday and Saturday - utter nonsense. You then tried to twist your way out of that by saying, "normal training" (whatever that means).
Finally, the poster we were replying to said, "intending to limp along with what we have on Saturday, which for me will be throwing points away." "Intending" and "throwing points away" suggests we're not bothered - so yes, you've misread the post you were defending. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 17:12 - Jan 10 with 1053 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Providing Davis is fit, Humphreys in CM is another option. I expect Travis will play, though. |  |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 17:17 - Jan 10 with 1038 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 17:05 - Jan 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Christ, the hoops you jump through.
Firstly - no, no managers would throw a player in at 1 when they signed at 12, as it's against the rules. However, McKenna does have form for throwing players in quickly - Leif Davis went straight in after only arriving from Australia a couple of days earlier. Then there's Hirst and Clarke, who were pretty much thrown straight in.
You are twisting THE HELL out of what's been said. You said there would likely be one training session between Wednesday and Saturday - utter nonsense. You then tried to twist your way out of that by saying, "normal training" (whatever that means).
Finally, the poster we were replying to said, "intending to limp along with what we have on Saturday, which for me will be throwing points away." "Intending" and "throwing points away" suggests we're not bothered - so yes, you've misread the post you were defending. |
I wasn't defending a post flash. Just adding some context which you spoke of recently as a potential to what he meant. It's not that deep for you to do your usual twist this twist that. You just tend to try and as pedantic as you can rather than just discuss the things said. I still stand by their being 1 training session between a Wed and Sat. Of course other sessions take place as already mentioned but clearly altho not as clear as you feel required, I was in my original reply talking about the intense pre game session KM has spoken of.
Again it's not that deep. Bur you're doing a solid job of providing examples of how you like to drag things out so that you can then bemoan a posters volume if posts after. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 17:17 - Jan 10 with 1034 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 10:18 - Jan 9 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
If he’s fit (which you’d assume he is) I’d start Travis - he’s vastly experienced in the Championship- exactly the type of experience we need.
I actually discovered a Blackburn fan at work yesterday. He was livid with his board/owners for letting him go. Said he’s an excellent player and thinks we’ve pulled off quite a coup. Thought it was quite interesting he also said ‘at least he didn’t go to a rival’ (I.e thinks we are well above Rovers and not a direct competitor- quite the compliment given how quickly we’ve surpassed solid Championship teams). |
It is a coup for us, I am sure, but he is only on loan so Blackburn still retain his contract at the end of the season, get his wages off their books, presumably get a loan fee, maybe have a decent fee arranged for if we go up and were not playing him regularly but were paying him wages as first choice for their structure. I reckon it is a good deal for all involved. | |
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| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 17:20 - Jan 10 with 1027 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Travis to start against Sunderland? on 10:30 - Jan 9 by orfordbuoy |
Why you attracted the usual culprits that police this forum with the usual insults for stating the obvious i.e. that we have no decent replacement for Hirst, is why most Town fans do not use this forum. |
It's very interesting that you know why most Town fans do not use the forum ... and choose to do so yourself.
Just an observation.
I wonder if there is any club that has a forum that is used by even 10% of it's clubs fans let alone "most". I would also reckon this is probably as active a forum in terms of percentages of fans as the majority of club's independent sites. | |
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