| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher 18:36 - Jan 16 with 17345 views | itfcjoe |
According to the Express
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 10:08 - Jan 17 with 2783 views | SheffordBlue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 09:32 - Jan 17 by LankHenners |
The other day I had a quick browse of transfers of strikers to the Championship last January and they were almost all either from abroad or loans from Prem teams.
To be honest I don't really buy the 'we're not ready to look at foreign leagues' angle - with the people we have behind the scenes and the connections they have it's not as if we're completely in the dark, plus any club with a half-decent set-up can do a lot of scouting and analysis remotely. Even Mick in our two-bit operation found Knudsen.
IMO think it's as much of a choice as anything else to go for British-based 'knows the division' players as they're seen as less of a risk at this point in the season. Think we'll widen our net in the summer when there's more time to settle someone new in. |
The Fans Forum answer from McKenna was that we didn't have the infrastructure to integrate foreign players and their families rather than the ability to identify them. Quite what that infrastructure might be wasn't made clear but it did seem from his answer that he'd seen foreign players fail to integrate into a UK setting when the right things weren't in place. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 10:26 - Jan 17 with 2680 views | LankHenners |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 10:08 - Jan 17 by SheffordBlue |
The Fans Forum answer from McKenna was that we didn't have the infrastructure to integrate foreign players and their families rather than the ability to identify them. Quite what that infrastructure might be wasn't made clear but it did seem from his answer that he'd seen foreign players fail to integrate into a UK setting when the right things weren't in place. |
True (though I can't imagine we're in a state of being totally unsuited to bed in players to new surroundings), was more responding to the general comments on here which suggest we're not even able to do the first bit yet. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 12:18 - Jan 17 with 2514 views | SitfcB |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 09:43 - Jan 17 by textbackup |
Oh no, he didn’t did he?!!!?
(The thickos in block 4 calling him a cnt everytine he came near stand might be a contributing factor) |
I thought it was funny (the celebration) they deserved it. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 12:23 - Jan 17 with 2471 views | davblue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 07:28 - Jan 17 by Nutkins_Return |
Ffp nothing to do with this one though. We just rightly are not going to overpay by silly amounts on a player worth about £1 mil. Of course there will be a January premium but we can't chuck silly money on a player being bought primarily to see us through the next 6 months. Don't see him as a long term target.
But yes unfortunately it seems younger, maybe higher ceiling players just aren't available at a reasonable price |
I can’t seen us being able to spend 6 million on a striker for arguments sake that is more the problem around ffp that we may be facing.
It’s hard to find strikers for around 1-2 million quid range who are going to be an asset for us. Hurst despite not doing much in the championship could end up costing us 3 million quid which will a good piece of value for us. |  | | |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 12:58 - Jan 17 with 2335 views | ArnieM |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 10:08 - Jan 17 by SheffordBlue |
The Fans Forum answer from McKenna was that we didn't have the infrastructure to integrate foreign players and their families rather than the ability to identify them. Quite what that infrastructure might be wasn't made clear but it did seem from his answer that he'd seen foreign players fail to integrate into a UK setting when the right things weren't in place. |
Language barrier for the family would be an issue , and trying to get them set up with NHS, dentists, health care systems, schools etc in general and local support groups. While the player is at the club his family are isolated in a country they can’t speak the language of. Not easy |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:23 - Jan 17 with 2214 views | Pinewoodblue |
Suspect Blackburn are not willing to sell at this time, hoping for a better bid for elsewhere. If a player is good enough for Ipswich they are more than good enough for most Championship clubs.
Gallagher’s contract expires end of season but they do have an option for one more season. Can’t understand why more players don’t insist that such options expire on 1st January.
It might be at the last minute but expect the deal to go through. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:26 - Jan 17 with 2191 views | portmanking |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:23 - Jan 17 by Pinewoodblue |
Suspect Blackburn are not willing to sell at this time, hoping for a better bid for elsewhere. If a player is good enough for Ipswich they are more than good enough for most Championship clubs.
Gallagher’s contract expires end of season but they do have an option for one more season. Can’t understand why more players don’t insist that such options expire on 1st January.
It might be at the last minute but expect the deal to go through. |
I don't think it'll be a last-minute deal... | | | |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:26 - Jan 17 with 2169 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:26 - Jan 17 by portmanking |
I don't think it'll be a last-minute deal... |
Before Monday I reckon. | | | |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:42 - Jan 17 with 2077 views | Steve_M |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 12:18 - Jan 17 by SitfcB |
I thought it was funny (the celebration) they deserved it. |
Yep, imagine giving a striker sh1t just as his team have a corner. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:42 - Jan 17 with 2075 views | ipswichtillidie |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:26 - Jan 17 by portmanking |
I don't think it'll be a last-minute deal... |
You’d expect this one to go through? |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 14:11 - Jan 17 with 1975 views | itfcjoe |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:26 - Jan 17 by portmanking |
I don't think it'll be a last-minute deal... |
Gallagher just finished playing a friendly in Manchester for Blackburn....
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 14:14 - Jan 17 with 1941 views | Churchman |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 09:48 - Jan 17 by Vegtablue |
Very true.
I'll paste the link, because I don't wish to manipulate the data in any way. My filters used: "23/24", "doesn't matter", "without players back from loan", and untick "transfers within the club" (just to remove filler).
248 arrivals this season or fewer*, 74 of which were from overseas (I double-counted Sigurdsson on second viewing, unless there are two of them from CSKA Moscow lol). 21 clubs, so most got involved. Brum, Rovers, Coventry, Leeds, Leicester, Boro, Millwall, Norwich, Preston, Rotherham, Wednesday, Stoke, Sunderland and Watford spent what I'd consider to be notable fees on overseas signings.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/championship/transfers/wettbewerb/GB2/plus/?sais
*potential loan move > full transfer duplicates, I've only sweeped for overseas players affected by this double count.
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Thanks for posting that. There are clearly opportunities out there - if you know what you are doing. Mixed success for the clubs you name, but that may of course not be down to the players from abroad they’ve brought in. |  | | |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 14:26 - Jan 17 with 1886 views | Vegtablue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 14:14 - Jan 17 by Churchman |
Thanks for posting that. There are clearly opportunities out there - if you know what you are doing. Mixed success for the clubs you name, but that may of course not be down to the players from abroad they’ve brought in. |
No worries and your "if you know what you are doing" point is most important. We didn't feel ready in the summer and it's only been a few months since then. £2M spent unwisely if very hard to claw back without a Leif-sized player sale. | | | |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 15:00 - Jan 17 with 1736 views | blueasfook |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 18:47 - Jan 16 by Illinoisblue |
Two weeks until window SLAMS SHUT. |
Oh that sounds so harsh the way you say it. Like any club who hasn't signed somebody by then is doomed to an eternity of failure and ridicule amongst football supporters. Like Norwich. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 15:42 - Jan 17 with 1622 views | PositivelyPortman |
Oooo, if it’s in the Express then it must be true. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:12 - Jan 17 with 1446 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 14:26 - Jan 17 by Vegtablue |
No worries and your "if you know what you are doing" point is most important. We didn't feel ready in the summer and it's only been a few months since then. £2M spent unwisely if very hard to claw back without a Leif-sized player sale. |
Whilst i agree with certain aspects we've not had only 5 months to set something up.
We are now coming upto 3 years since the takeover.
Of course we've done alot in that time. An awful lot.
But we haven't just had 5 months to set up some form of scouting network abroad. |  |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:14 - Jan 17 with 1433 views | PhilTWTD |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 13:23 - Jan 17 by Pinewoodblue |
Suspect Blackburn are not willing to sell at this time, hoping for a better bid for elsewhere. If a player is good enough for Ipswich they are more than good enough for most Championship clubs.
Gallagher’s contract expires end of season but they do have an option for one more season. Can’t understand why more players don’t insist that such options expire on 1st January.
It might be at the last minute but expect the deal to go through. |
They need to find a replacement as much as any argument about the fee. I'd keep eye on whether they find anyone to come in. |  | | |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:27 - Jan 17 with 1353 views | StokieBlue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:12 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Whilst i agree with certain aspects we've not had only 5 months to set something up.
We are now coming upto 3 years since the takeover.
Of course we've done alot in that time. An awful lot.
But we haven't just had 5 months to set up some form of scouting network abroad. |
When the takeover was done the rules about bringing in players from abroad were different, especially at League One level as they wouldn't have been internationals and Brexit rules applied.
Things have changed now but to imply they could have set this up the best part of 3 years ago is a tad disingenuous.
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:35 - Jan 17 with 1322 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:27 - Jan 17 by StokieBlue |
When the takeover was done the rules about bringing in players from abroad were different, especially at League One level as they wouldn't have been internationals and Brexit rules applied.
Things have changed now but to imply they could have set this up the best part of 3 years ago is a tad disingenuous.
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Their aim was promotion. End game prem.
Financially they pushed for promotion asap.
Regardless of what was different when they took over.. they would have known an important aspect as you get higher would world wide recruitment. For people to say it isn't ready yet after nearly 3 years I find poor tbh. Even plymouth hit the foreign market. | |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:36 - Jan 17 with 1319 views | Churchman |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:12 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Whilst i agree with certain aspects we've not had only 5 months to set something up.
We are now coming upto 3 years since the takeover.
Of course we've done alot in that time. An awful lot.
But we haven't just had 5 months to set up some form of scouting network abroad. |
When we were in L1 Ashton explained the restriction and reasons for not buying from abroad and the non existent state of scouting networks at the club.
Are you saying that since promotion we should have put together a scouting network across the world and already brought in Ivo Scorealotov for a few pounds and have him banging them in by now? Or are you saying it should have been set up in June 2021 and the people appointed sent to the beach at Magaluf until we were promoted? | | | |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:38 - Jan 17 with 1292 views | gosblue |
We’re not as desperate as some might suggest. Jackson has stepped up and surprised many of his doubters. Broadhead is familiar with leading the line but if we want him to play that role it has to be from the start, not when he’s knackered after 70 minutes. It would be nice to have a No9 but we can’t pay £millions as FFP doesn’t allow it. Maybe we need to learn to play with what we’ve got until Hirsty is back, like we have with Burgess. Another thought, what about Dane Scarlett? | | | |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:43 - Jan 17 with 1246 views | StokieBlue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:35 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
Their aim was promotion. End game prem.
Financially they pushed for promotion asap.
Regardless of what was different when they took over.. they would have known an important aspect as you get higher would world wide recruitment. For people to say it isn't ready yet after nearly 3 years I find poor tbh. Even plymouth hit the foreign market. |
You've literally ignored the context that I outlined and wrote whatever suited your narrative.
Embarassing.
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:44 - Jan 17 with 1241 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:36 - Jan 17 by Churchman |
When we were in L1 Ashton explained the restriction and reasons for not buying from abroad and the non existent state of scouting networks at the club.
Are you saying that since promotion we should have put together a scouting network across the world and already brought in Ivo Scorealotov for a few pounds and have him banging them in by now? Or are you saying it should have been set up in June 2021 and the people appointed sent to the beach at Magaluf until we were promoted? |
No..I'd have thought they'd begin setting up a scouting network. Making a database of recorded players to be utilised as and when required and able.
Again however. We may be doing so. But people are saying there's no strikers out there. Well if the recruitment team are worth their wages then they'd be finding them.
As someone else has shown. We've had 2 successful strikers in about 7 signed since the take over. And one of those Is about to leave.
Again. Disclaimer. We don't know how this month ends this discussion is solely around certain things said as mentioned above. | |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:49 - Jan 17 with 1197 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:43 - Jan 17 by StokieBlue |
You've literally ignored the context that I outlined and wrote whatever suited your narrative.
Embarassing.
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Right. Not sure how you come to that but hey ho. | |
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| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 18:36 - Jan 17 with 1099 views | Churchman |
| Blackburn no longer willing to sell Gallagher on 17:44 - Jan 17 by FrimleyBlue |
No..I'd have thought they'd begin setting up a scouting network. Making a database of recorded players to be utilised as and when required and able.
Again however. We may be doing so. But people are saying there's no strikers out there. Well if the recruitment team are worth their wages then they'd be finding them.
As someone else has shown. We've had 2 successful strikers in about 7 signed since the take over. And one of those Is about to leave.
Again. Disclaimer. We don't know how this month ends this discussion is solely around certain things said as mentioned above. |
So, set up a scouting network with nothing to do for 2+ years.
I’m sure they have a database and have been looking at possibilities, but coming from zero, I doubt that’s easy. Our competitors are the likes of West Brom, Watford, Norwich, not L1 clubs, all of whom have been much higher in the pyramid in recent years. Even Stoke, Swansea and QPR. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
Wednesday probably have a database and a scouting network but look what a mess they got into wheeling in a phalanx of dross from abroad. Look at us in 2001. Not all the blame goes on Finidi and Sereni, but how much did that foray cost us and for what?
More often than not players move in January because their club doesn’t want them, they don’t want the club, a boatload of money, pension dough or if up and coming a step up.
Dozens of clubs are in the market for strikers and while I might love East Anglia 9/10ths of the country barely know where it is, let alone Fantastico Golo from where’ve abroad.
I really don’t think it’s as easy as you make it sound, even if you offer silly money and destroy squad harmony doing it, as happened in 2001.
Your disclaimer is correct. We don’t know how this month ends. Best to wait until then. | | | |
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