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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin 17:20 - Feb 8 with 4371 viewsCharlie_pl_baxter

IFAB are trialling blue cards for dissent and "cynical" fouls. Will be a ten minute sin bin. Not at the professional level to begin with but planning to go throughout the game.

Personally I like it, hopefully they extend to all unsportsmanlike conduct including obvious dives.

https://news.sky.com/story/footballs-rulemakers-set-to-introduce-blue-cards-for-

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:21 - Feb 8 with 2704 viewsFrimleyBlue

So the old fashioned taking one for the team shirt pull would be a 10 min sin bin?

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:23 - Feb 8 with 2698 viewsCharlie_pl_baxter

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:21 - Feb 8 by FrimleyBlue

So the old fashioned taking one for the team shirt pull would be a 10 min sin bin?


Think so yes. I was thinking more the blatant ankle hack once the player has gone through you though.

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:28 - Feb 8 with 2669 viewsJ2BLUE

Don't mind it being trialled by my opening stance is against it.

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:37 - Feb 8 with 2626 viewsbobbyramsey

Good idea, a yellow is not enough for a cynical foul.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:38 - Feb 8 with 2633 viewsfranz_tyson

Every game we complain about the standard of referees. Why do you want to give them more powers to 'get it wrong'?

Improve the quality and consistency of referees first before bringing in new rules.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:40 - Feb 8 with 2602 viewsPowrigan

If it cuts down the dives and dissent, then go for it.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:40 - Feb 8 with 2608 viewsCharlie_pl_baxter

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:38 - Feb 8 by franz_tyson

Every game we complain about the standard of referees. Why do you want to give them more powers to 'get it wrong'?

Improve the quality and consistency of referees first before bringing in new rules.


If this leads to less dissent and pressure on refs do you not think it might help with their standard if decision making though?

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:44 - Feb 8 with 2578 viewsStokieBlue

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:38 - Feb 8 by franz_tyson

Every game we complain about the standard of referees. Why do you want to give them more powers to 'get it wrong'?

Improve the quality and consistency of referees first before bringing in new rules.


Out of interest, how do you plan on doing that?

They went professional years ago and it's not improved to the level you are suggesting is required.

What further steps would improve their quality and consistency?

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:47 - Feb 8 with 2563 viewsfranz_tyson

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:40 - Feb 8 by Charlie_pl_baxter

If this leads to less dissent and pressure on refs do you not think it might help with their standard if decision making though?


Was their pressure on the officials in the first 10 minutes of the Preston game? They just made bad decisions.
I just see more and more games being decided by the whim of a referee.

They'll be more players cheating and trying to get other players sin-binned.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:47 - Feb 8 with 2558 viewsITFCMonk

How would this work when there’s less than 10 minutes left of each half?
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What if the keeper gets "blued"?? (n/t) on 17:53 - Feb 8 with 2519 viewsBloots


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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:54 - Feb 8 with 2527 viewsblueasfook

Crazy idea. Better to get a yellow and stay on the pitch. Being a man down is a huge disadvantage, and should only happen if a player is red carded.

How are they operating it? Id imagine it to be for an offence that is more serious than a yellow but not quite worth a red card?

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:02 - Feb 8 with 2453 viewsWestStanderLaLaLa

Imagine the time wasting when a team is down to 10.

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:18 - Feb 8 with 2390 viewsMattinLondon

From the article - Two blue cards would result in a player's dismissal.

So why introduce the blue card in the first place? In an high profile match the ref will probably simply give out a yellow card as it’ll be the lesser of the two evils.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:20 - Feb 8 with 2384 viewsredrickstuhaart

Yet further unecessary messing with the game.

Use the cards they have properly. Job done.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:22 - Feb 8 with 2368 viewsMattinLondon

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:20 - Feb 8 by redrickstuhaart

Yet further unecessary messing with the game.

Use the cards they have properly. Job done.


But the refs (in the main) are using the cards properly it’s just that in the modern game there is a lot more yellow cards than in the 70s and 80s.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:23 - Feb 8 with 2361 viewsMK1

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 17:47 - Feb 8 by ITFCMonk

How would this work when there’s less than 10 minutes left of each half?


It would roll over to second half from the first or be forgotten at the final whistle. Same as rugby.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:27 - Feb 8 with 2345 viewsredrickstuhaart

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:22 - Feb 8 by MattinLondon

But the refs (in the main) are using the cards properly it’s just that in the modern game there is a lot more yellow cards than in the 70s and 80s.


So what is the purpose of this? To increase punishment, or avoid sending off players? Either way it changes things tactically. Complicates things. Gives refs another option to misapply. Will also lead to tedious passages of play where one side locks down and wastes time for ten minutes waiting for their player back.

If its unacceptable behaviour or foul, send them off. If its not, thats what a yellow is for.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:32 - Feb 8 with 2319 viewsblueasfook

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:22 - Feb 8 by MattinLondon

But the refs (in the main) are using the cards properly it’s just that in the modern game there is a lot more yellow cards than in the 70s and 80s.


You had to basically kill someone to get a yellow in the 70s or even 80s. There's some old footage of Wimbledon (Crazy Gang era) playing Man Utd doing the rounds. Some of the tackles Vinnie Jones is putting in would see him get a straight red today. The ref doesn't even give him a yellow.

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:35 - Feb 8 with 2311 viewsTheMover

Personally, I would rather see every yellow card is 10 mins in the sin bin. Take a dive, 10 mins off, dissent towrds the ref, 10 mins off time wasting 10 mins off. Would change the game overnight
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:43 - Feb 8 with 2284 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:32 - Feb 8 by blueasfook

You had to basically kill someone to get a yellow in the 70s or even 80s. There's some old footage of Wimbledon (Crazy Gang era) playing Man Utd doing the rounds. Some of the tackles Vinnie Jones is putting in would see him get a straight red today. The ref doesn't even give him a yellow.




One booking in that game. One.

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 19:31 - Feb 8 with 2128 viewsGarv

It's a tragically bad idea. We're basically still trialling VAR and yet we want to add this into the mix.

It will just add more controversy. People will dispute whether the sin bin was justified and claim it affected the result. Who's going to time the ten minutes and make sure the player is bad on the pitch in time? What if there's no break in play? Referees struggle already, this is just another thing for them to worry about.

It will affect the quality of the game. Teams will play a low block for ten minutes to make sure they survive the time with one less player.

Will the sin bin apply across both halves if applied late in the first half?

If dissent is that bad enough the referee can send the player off. If it's not that bad, you accept that it's an emotional and high pressure sport, you yellow card the player and get on with it. Cyclical fouls are annoying but they've always been there. If you want to try and curb it, why not lower the threshold for totting up bans or say a cynical foul counts as double, for example.

Ultimately it will make football less like football, as if that hasn't started happening enough all ready. Also, why do we have to make the FA Cup, a competition people already feel is losing value, a guinea pig for this gimmick?

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 19:34 - Feb 8 with 2039 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 18:02 - Feb 8 by WestStanderLaLaLa

Imagine the time wasting when a team is down to 10.


And if each instance of it resulted in another player getting a blue card and 2 blues = a yellow EDIT just read that it is actually a red at that point, and a further blue = red, I am not sure it would happen for very long.

Problem is more that the officials don't seem to continue to enforce these measures. At the start of the season time wasting led to regular double figures time allowed at the end of matches. After a few weeks, the time wasting continued but the time allowed stopped. Madness.
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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 19:36 - Feb 8 with 1994 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Please no!

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Blue Card = 10 minute sin bin on 19:40 - Feb 8 with 1972 viewsNthsuffolkblue

I am all for it as long officials use it consistently and correctly.

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