| ITV Debate 21:02 - Jun 4 with 17813 views | Zx1988 |
Not holding out much hope of Sunak wanting to debate properly. Assuming it'll be 60mins of him whining 'but Corbyn', no? |  |
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| ITV Debate on 21:49 - Jun 4 with 1453 views | SitfcB |
| ITV Debate on 21:48 - Jun 4 by portmanking |
Agreed on both fronts.
I was also irritated at his response re. not using private healthcare for a loved one. I just don't buy it. He looked so shifty after saying 'no' too. He just said it to look like a man of the people.
If I'm honest, I'm not impressed with either. Growing feeling of being politically homeless. |
We’d all use private healthcare personally or for family if we could, should’ve just said yes. |  |
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| ITV Debate on 21:49 - Jun 4 with 1442 views | blueasfook |
| ITV Debate on 21:48 - Jun 4 by portmanking |
Agreed on both fronts.
I was also irritated at his response re. not using private healthcare for a loved one. I just don't buy it. He looked so shifty after saying 'no' too. He just said it to look like a man of the people.
If I'm honest, I'm not impressed with either. Growing feeling of being politically homeless. |
I'm going with Monster Raving Loony Party I think |  |
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| ITV Debate on 21:50 - Jun 4 with 1444 views | mutters |
Kier Starmer is going to be PM and I’m glad the Tories are going to get an absolute kicking, but Starmer is truly awful |  |
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| ITV Debate on 21:50 - Jun 4 with 1439 views | portmanking |
| ITV Debate on 21:49 - Jun 4 by SitfcB |
We’d all use private healthcare personally or for family if we could, should’ve just said yes. |
Precisely. Just be honest. I'd have respected him more for saying yes. | | | |
| ITV Debate on 21:52 - Jun 4 with 1391 views | Swansea_Blue |
| ITV Debate on 21:45 - Jun 4 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm behind the rest of you but I thought Starmer was very evasive with regards to ending the junior doctors strike. Answer the question FFS.
Sunak is very aggressive which may grate as time goes on but as a natural Tory voter switching to Labour, I'm not impressed with Starmer under pressure so far. |
He didn’t have chance to answer - Sunak cut across him three times. He eventually managed to say he’d negotiate and then she cut him off. Then I gave up. Were not going to find out anything useful from this unfortunately. |  |
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| ITV Debate on 21:54 - Jun 4 with 1353 views | redrickstuhaart |
| ITV Debate on 21:52 - Jun 4 by Swansea_Blue |
He didn’t have chance to answer - Sunak cut across him three times. He eventually managed to say he’d negotiate and then she cut him off. Then I gave up. Were not going to find out anything useful from this unfortunately. |
"Thats 45 seconds. We're going to try to stick to the rules Keir Starmer"
Having allowed Sunak to do the same repeatedly without challenge.
I am not sure whether it is bias arising from their respective positions, the rudeness with which Sunak is conducting things, or some underlying subconscious bias. Its really not good though. | | | |
| ITV Debate on 21:55 - Jun 4 with 1312 views | Zx1988 |
| ITV Debate on 21:54 - Jun 4 by redrickstuhaart |
"Thats 45 seconds. We're going to try to stick to the rules Keir Starmer"
Having allowed Sunak to do the same repeatedly without challenge.
I am not sure whether it is bias arising from their respective positions, the rudeness with which Sunak is conducting things, or some underlying subconscious bias. Its really not good though. |
Maybe the red specs again, but I feel that Sunak is being given far too much leeway to spout his 'Labour will cost you more' schtick, despite Starmer having refuted it on multiple occasions. | |
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| ITV Debate on 21:56 - Jun 4 with 1291 views | ArmaghBlue |
What a waste of time that was. Politicians typically blabbering on about how great they will be and how bad the others are, and not answering any of the questions actually asked.
God help the UK, whoever is in charge!! |  | | |
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| ITV Debate on 21:58 - Jun 4 with 1256 views | GlasgowBlue |
| ITV Debate on 21:52 - Jun 4 by Swansea_Blue |
He didn’t have chance to answer - Sunak cut across him three times. He eventually managed to say he’d negotiate and then she cut him off. Then I gave up. Were not going to find out anything useful from this unfortunately. |
Sunak cut across him three times because three times he refused to answer and wanted to talk about what the current government was doing.
Watching this as a neutral and seeing the tribal replies on here is quite funny. Nothing Sunak can say or do would change my votes but I am uninspired by Starmer. He won't say what he will do. Just wants to fight on the Tories record. Which in fairness is safe ground. It's his election to lose. |  |
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| ITV Debate on 21:59 - Jun 4 with 1240 views | GlasgowBlue |
| ITV Debate on 21:49 - Jun 4 by blueasfook |
I'm going with Monster Raving Loony Party I think |
I thought you were founding member. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:00 - Jun 4 with 1229 views | LeoMuff |
| ITV Debate on 21:45 - Jun 4 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm behind the rest of you but I thought Starmer was very evasive with regards to ending the junior doctors strike. Answer the question FFS.
Sunak is very aggressive which may grate as time goes on but as a natural Tory voter switching to Labour, I'm not impressed with Starmer under pressure so far. |
I don’t think it’s a question you can reasonably answer unless you have been negotiating with the doctors, Sunak knows that and is just point scoring. |  |
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| ITV Debate on 22:02 - Jun 4 with 1165 views | blueasfook |
| ITV Debate on 21:59 - Jun 4 by GlasgowBlue |
I thought you were founding member. |
The cheek of it! You scamp! | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:06 - Jun 4 with 1118 views | Zx1988 |
What these debates desperately need are slightly less passive audience participants. Tonight was dying out for someone to tell the leaders to answer their question, or just heckle some of their absolute guff. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:06 - Jun 4 with 1105 views | bazza |
| ITV Debate on 21:50 - Jun 4 by mutters |
Kier Starmer is going to be PM and I’m glad the Tories are going to get an absolute kicking, but Starmer is truly awful |
The national service didn’t go down well, when they all laughed rishi looked like he was going to cry.. |  | | |
| ITV Debate on 22:06 - Jun 4 with 1095 views | redrickstuhaart |
| ITV Debate on 22:06 - Jun 4 by Zx1988 |
What these debates desperately need are slightly less passive audience participants. Tonight was dying out for someone to tell the leaders to answer their question, or just heckle some of their absolute guff. |
Theyd get kicked out. | | | |
| ITV Debate on 22:07 - Jun 4 with 1084 views | blueasfook |
| ITV Debate on 22:06 - Jun 4 by Zx1988 |
What these debates desperately need are slightly less passive audience participants. Tonight was dying out for someone to tell the leaders to answer their question, or just heckle some of their absolute guff. |
Agree. Milk shakes need to be thrown. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:08 - Jun 4 with 1065 views | GlasgowBlue |
| ITV Debate on 22:06 - Jun 4 by Zx1988 |
What these debates desperately need are slightly less passive audience participants. Tonight was dying out for someone to tell the leaders to answer their question, or just heckle some of their absolute guff. |
Yes. More like a Question Time audience. It's very flat. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:09 - Jun 4 with 1053 views | bazza |
| ITV Debate on 21:58 - Jun 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Sunak cut across him three times because three times he refused to answer and wanted to talk about what the current government was doing.
Watching this as a neutral and seeing the tribal replies on here is quite funny. Nothing Sunak can say or do would change my votes but I am uninspired by Starmer. He won't say what he will do. Just wants to fight on the Tories record. Which in fairness is safe ground. It's his election to lose. |
If labour lose this election, it’ll be on par with Leeds collapse this season.. starmer could’ve not bothered turning up, and it wouldn’t have made a difference | | | |
| ITV Debate on 22:09 - Jun 4 with 1048 views | lowhouseblue |
| ITV Debate on 22:06 - Jun 4 by Zx1988 |
What these debates desperately need are slightly less passive audience participants. Tonight was dying out for someone to tell the leaders to answer their question, or just heckle some of their absolute guff. |
what they need is 2 minutes for an answer, microphones switched off when it's not their turn, and a chair who challenges repetition and pointless smears. with tonights format it was completely pointless |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| ITV Debate on 22:10 - Jun 4 with 1023 views | GlasgowBlue |
| ITV Debate on 22:09 - Jun 4 by bazza |
If labour lose this election, it’ll be on par with Leeds collapse this season.. starmer could’ve not bothered turning up, and it wouldn’t have made a difference |
That's why I said it's his to lose. I can't see any other outcome than a Labour landslide. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:10 - Jun 4 with 1025 views | Zx1988 |
And?
90% of them were just there to nod sagely and applaud their chosen horse in the race. Once the questioners have asked their question, that's it for them as well.
They're not going to miss anything by getting escorted out. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:11 - Jun 4 with 1023 views | SitfcB |
Sunak more interested in kicking the boot in on Labours apparent ‘no plan’ ‘£2000 tax’ rather than telling us what the Tories will actually do. Little sound bites that he hopes will be picked sup by some…but no one trusts him so not going to work. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:11 - Jun 4 with 1007 views | GlasgowBlue |
| ITV Debate on 22:09 - Jun 4 by lowhouseblue |
what they need is 2 minutes for an answer, microphones switched off when it's not their turn, and a chair who challenges repetition and pointless smears. with tonights format it was completely pointless |
What we really need is the pair of them in front of Andrew Neil for 30 minutes each. | |
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| ITV Debate on 22:12 - Jun 4 with 1004 views | bazza |
| ITV Debate on 22:10 - Jun 4 by GlasgowBlue |
That's why I said it's his to lose. I can't see any other outcome than a Labour landslide. |
Yea, I was agreeing. | | | |
| ITV Debate on 22:13 - Jun 4 with 988 views | Zx1988 |
| ITV Debate on 22:09 - Jun 4 by lowhouseblue |
what they need is 2 minutes for an answer, microphones switched off when it's not their turn, and a chair who challenges repetition and pointless smears. with tonights format it was completely pointless |
The problem is that the parties hold too much sway over these things.
I can't imagine that Sunak (and perhaps Starmer as well) would have agreed to having the ability removed to interrupt his opponent.
If they won't agree to the broadcasters' terms, there's no debate. Either have them properly, with the setup properly and independently enshrined somewhere, or not at all. | |
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