| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? 16:44 - Jul 24 with 23603 views | giant_stow |
You lot are slipping. Could be serious social strife ahead. |  |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 11:38 - Jul 25 with 3025 views | textbackup |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:53 - Jul 25 by ronnyd |
One of the WPC's looked horrified at what she had just witnessed. I hope her report backs it up. |
She’s the one with the bleeding nose having just been punched? Hopefully her report backs it up |  |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 11:50 - Jul 25 with 2959 views | ronnyd |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 11:38 - Jul 25 by textbackup |
She’s the one with the bleeding nose having just been punched? Hopefully her report backs it up |
No wonder she looked distressed.  |  | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 13:51 - Jul 25 with 2859 views | Dave_Buh |
If the reports are true, that the bloke punched a female officer, then I fully condone the actions taken. Just give him a slap on the wrist for doing it in front of a camera and to next time ensure it’s done in privacy. | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 18:27 - Jul 25 with 2756 views | TheBoyBlue |
As with what usually happens these days, people are piling in on this with little knowledge of the context of these moments. The video only cuts in just as he kicks the man on the floor. I can't imagine what would justify such an action against someone who was seemingly lying face down not fighting back and the short fuse the officer appears to have in this video and the other one doing the rounds suggests that frontline policing probably isn't the job for him.
However, what led to this point? We don't know what else had been happening either here or generally in that officer's life. Not condoning what he did and as I said it is hard to think of any justification for what we can all see happened in that moment, but that is for a proper, objective investigation to decide, not social media.
By the way, fair play to those who protested about it outside the police station without it turning into a full-scale riot, unlike other protests against the police that seem just a thinly disguised excuse for violence and disorder. | |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 18:40 - Jul 25 with 2736 views | bluejacko |
Not a word about an army officer being stabbed 12 times in Chatham either! Do the residents of Chatham protest outside the police station?no they let the law deal with it! | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 18:47 - Jul 25 with 2728 views | BLUEBEAT |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 13:51 - Jul 25 by Dave_Buh |
If the reports are true, that the bloke punched a female officer, then I fully condone the actions taken. Just give him a slap on the wrist for doing it in front of a camera and to next time ensure it’s done in privacy. |
Absurd comment. |  |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:13 - Jul 25 with 2702 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 18:40 - Jul 25 by bluejacko |
Not a word about an army officer being stabbed 12 times in Chatham either! Do the residents of Chatham protest outside the police station?no they let the law deal with it! |
I’m failing to see the connection or relevance. It’s not unusual for people to protest when there’s police violence. I don’t think a police office stabbed the army officer.
It’s right that there’s a full investigation into this. Obviously it’s not ok to go round punching bobbies, but they do have a duty of care. If it’s proven he lost his head, he’ll be in trouble (even more so if the guy dies, as it sounds like his condition is deteriorating). |  |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:47 - Jul 25 with 2634 views | baxterbasics |
Good reasoned discussion in the above by someone familiar with the law |  |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:26 - Jul 25 with 2564 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:51 - Jul 24 by textbackup |
Good work by the officers.
Country has become a lawless cesspit of cnts. Give it to them |
Feckwittery of the highest order but no surprise from you |  | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:29 - Jul 25 with 2561 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 21:22 - Jul 24 by SitfcB |
Policing was probably always like that back in the day??
But there were never any cameras to catch it, maybe that’s why they’ve had to go soft these days.
Bet blokes used to get a kick in the head daily, knew they f’cked up and learnt their lesson. |
Let's hope your head isn't used as a football one day. Maybe then you'd be less of a tw@t about it | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:31 - Jul 25 with 2556 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 21:34 - Jul 24 by BloomBlue |
While agree, I also don't want to live in a society where breaking the nose of a public sector worker is acceptable.
Next thing we'll be saying, well the patient didn't get what they want from the nurse so it was acceptable to punch her and break her nose.
I also always find it strange that a member of the public will video the police officer doing something, but not when the person hit the police officer - hidden agenda obviously.
The police should have rules, but when someone is throwing a punch at you, how do you stop/defend yourself?
I genuinely think many people watch Vera and think it's real, middle aged female detective confronts criminal, maybe trips up the individual, and criminal simply says, "OK, you have me" and everything is fine. The world isn't like that.
When we had that sword attacker in April.who killed that poor kid on his way to school, nothing would have given more pleasure than if the police could have got to that attacker first kicked him in the head, even jumped on it a few times if that had saved that boys life.
Life isn't a TV drama, sometimes those who protect us have to make decisions which are wrong versus wrong.
Bit like when Corbyn didn't want a shoot on site for terrorists. Poor fecking police office could be confronted by bod with bomb strapped to him, if the officer doesn't fire members of the public could br killed, when he fires terrorist is killed. Either option with upset someone, wrong versus wrong. |
Mostly irrelevant tosh | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:35 - Jul 25 with 2530 views | jaykay |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 16:58 - Jul 24 by Zx1988 |
The other interesting aspect (having watched the footage through at 0.25x speed to reduce the chaos somewhat) is the chap in the green top sat on the bench at the top-left of the screen.
For most of his time in frame he appears to be sat there with his hands up, clearly either surrendering or not wanting to get involved. Then, towards the end, one of the officers orders him to the ground, and delivers a kick to his gut/groin whilst he's on his knees.
Clearly there's the broader 'context' missing from before filming begins, but I cannot see any way in which this gent needed kicking to the ground.
As for the body cams, I'm assuming the batteries all mysteriously died at the point at which firearms were drawn, or they ended up obscured by something. |
i think its the same copper that used the poor lads head as a football ,who also kick the lad in the green tiop |  |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:48 - Jul 25 with 2493 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:35 - Jul 25 by jaykay |
i think its the same copper that used the poor lads head as a football ,who also kick the lad in the green tiop |
According to many on here that's absolutely fine. People seem to want to go back to the good old days of policing ie Stephen Lawrence, The Guildford 4 etc
Let em do whatever the feck they want irrespective of the law and morality.
This thread is largely bollox | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:25 - Jul 25 with 2453 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:51 - Jul 24 by textbackup |
Good work by the officers.
Country has become a lawless cesspit of cnts. Give it to them |
“ Country has become a lawless cesspit of cnts”
Agree with this, but the answer isn’t giving them a truncheon and a salary… | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 01:15 - Jul 26 with 2362 views | Jimmy86 |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:48 - Jul 25 by reusersfreekicks |
According to many on here that's absolutely fine. People seem to want to go back to the good old days of policing ie Stephen Lawrence, The Guildford 4 etc
Let em do whatever the feck they want irrespective of the law and morality.
This thread is largely bollox |
I'm not for one minute condoning what the officer has been filmed doing... He has rightfully been suspended, pending investigation.. he will also be subject to any disciplinary action and/or criminal prosecution as a result of what he has done...
On the flip side to that, context is everything and we don't know the full picture.. if the subject, who had a good shoeing from the copper did break the nose of a female police officer then that is equally as deplorable as the actions of the police officer who has been suspended!! Surely you don't condone that either?? | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 06:28 - Jul 26 with 2286 views | BarcaBlue |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 01:15 - Jul 26 by Jimmy86 |
I'm not for one minute condoning what the officer has been filmed doing... He has rightfully been suspended, pending investigation.. he will also be subject to any disciplinary action and/or criminal prosecution as a result of what he has done...
On the flip side to that, context is everything and we don't know the full picture.. if the subject, who had a good shoeing from the copper did break the nose of a female police officer then that is equally as deplorable as the actions of the police officer who has been suspended!! Surely you don't condone that either?? |
Following the logic of some on this thread the police officer might have deserved a punch in the face as we don't know what provoked it.
I can't think of a situation where stamping on someone's head after receiving a boot to the head is acceptable or defensible. |  | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 06:34 - Jul 26 with 2278 views | Buhrer |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 06:28 - Jul 26 by BarcaBlue |
Following the logic of some on this thread the police officer might have deserved a punch in the face as we don't know what provoked it.
I can't think of a situation where stamping on someone's head after receiving a boot to the head is acceptable or defensible. |
It seems obvious to me that they have never been kicked repeatedly in the head by a massive thug. If they had it might change their mind. I mean literally, they'll have brain damage, and an actual reason for their lack of comprehension. [Post edited 26 Jul 2024 6:35]
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 07:26 - Jul 26 with 2240 views | tcblue |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:44 - Jul 24 by Jimmy86 |
Thing with law enforcement, it does have its fair share of wrong'uns, same as with society itself... But, what it means is that particular officer may be a scumbag.. you can't then tar all law enforcement officers with the same brush, just because of a minority of scumbags... |
The problem is when "one bad apple" doesn't get called out by his colleagues (thin blue line and all that). That's how monsters like Wayne Couzens grow; they rely on the omerta. | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 08:18 - Jul 26 with 2165 views | Zx1988 |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 07:26 - Jul 26 by tcblue |
The problem is when "one bad apple" doesn't get called out by his colleagues (thin blue line and all that). That's how monsters like Wayne Couzens grow; they rely on the omerta. |
Let's not forget, also, that firearms officers in particular appear to be a law unto themselves.
Handing back their firearms tickets in response to calls for extra scrutiny and accountability wasn't exactly the best PR move. | |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 08:45 - Jul 26 with 2148 views | Churchman |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 01:15 - Jul 26 by Jimmy86 |
I'm not for one minute condoning what the officer has been filmed doing... He has rightfully been suspended, pending investigation.. he will also be subject to any disciplinary action and/or criminal prosecution as a result of what he has done...
On the flip side to that, context is everything and we don't know the full picture.. if the subject, who had a good shoeing from the copper did break the nose of a female police officer then that is equally as deplorable as the actions of the police officer who has been suspended!! Surely you don't condone that either?? |
The footage looks pretty damning and his actions gratuitous on the face of it. He has rightly been suspended pending investigation. I certainly would like to know the full story before, during and after, including what they were arresting this bloke for.
What I will say is we as a society need to decide what sort of police force we want. Are they to be supported or considered the enemy? If it’s the latter, the solution is simple. Just get rid of the police. All of them. As it is there are parts of this country that the police cannot touch so maybe that’s the way forward. Let ‘communities’ deal with it.
If we want a police force it has to be accepted that the job is difficult and risky, but where they step over the line, disciplined accordingly. In terms of support, they are largely not. Spat at, abused, restricted in what they can do by cuts and political interference that I suspect much crime is no longer even reported.
I worked with a few ex-policemen a few years back and they were beyond disenchanted with their old job mainly from the restrictions placed upon them, same criminals appearing time and time again on the streets and public contempt.
As a sideline, the Tory government three years ago deemed serious crime ‘not a serious priority’. The criminals concerned were mostly very rich, very dangerous people who’d have killed as soon as blink. Much of the teams doing that work were disbanded - my mate worked on this stuff and he took early retirement.
Apologies for the rambling nature of this post. While I didn’t like the footage I’d like to know the full story. People who do wrong need calling out including policemen. Nobody should be above the law, whether public, police or politicians. Regardless, my overarching view is that the police need expanding, probably reforming, certainly supporting. |  | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:02 - Jul 26 with 2097 views | textbackup |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:26 - Jul 25 by reusersfreekicks |
Feckwittery of the highest order but no surprise from you |
If you don’t think breaking a police officers nose deserves getting a wack back, then that’s on you me old mucker. | |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:04 - Jul 26 with 2089 views | textbackup |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:29 - Jul 25 by reusersfreekicks |
Let's hope your head isn't used as a football one day. Maybe then you'd be less of a tw@t about it |
I highly doubt sitters will smack a police office, and try to grab their firearms…
I’d guess that if he did, and got booted in the head, he’d quickly realise he’d started all that trouble and was fully in the wrong. | |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:13 - Jul 26 with 2076 views | textbackup |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:25 - Jul 25 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“ Country has become a lawless cesspit of cnts”
Agree with this, but the answer isn’t giving them a truncheon and a salary… |
On a daily basis there are videos online of people walking into shops, just helping themselves to clothes, drink etc.
Multiple videos of people robbing phones
People livelihoods being stolen with trademens vans robbed.
The police are a tight group, that will look after their own. If you’re a bloke and you’ve seen a scumbag just punch a female officer/a friend then if you react.
But some of the cabbages on here don’t live in the real world, I get that. | |
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| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:13 - Jul 26 with 2075 views | yesjohn99 |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:04 - Jul 26 by textbackup |
I highly doubt sitters will smack a police office, and try to grab their firearms…
I’d guess that if he did, and got booted in the head, he’d quickly realise he’d started all that trouble and was fully in the wrong. |
So strange. Man allegedly hits woman and breaks her nose. Man gets adequate punishment. People defend man. | | | |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:16 - Jul 26 with 2063 views | yesjohn99 |
| Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:13 - Jul 26 by textbackup |
On a daily basis there are videos online of people walking into shops, just helping themselves to clothes, drink etc.
Multiple videos of people robbing phones
People livelihoods being stolen with trademens vans robbed.
The police are a tight group, that will look after their own. If you’re a bloke and you’ve seen a scumbag just punch a female officer/a friend then if you react.
But some of the cabbages on here don’t live in the real world, I get that. |
No fear of the punishment. This just might make some think ‘I wont raise my hands to a lady’.
Instead of ‘punch a lady and the do gooders of the world will get behind me’. | | | |
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