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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 09:45 - Jul 25 by textbackup
Punching a women started all the airport drama, so I’m hugely against that sort of behaviour.
But to answer your question - I’m a person of extreme dark humour
Texters, can you verify that the female police officer was actually punched? Genuine question. I've only seen articles that state 'a female officer had her nose broken'.
Thing is, that could happen in a struggle with a stray elbow, for example. I find it interesting that so much supposition is at play on both sides, ie "racially motivated attack", and "punched a woman". This kind of rhetoric is not helpful before facts are fully understood, and is the kind of thing that allows protests to get out of hand. (See the Leeds riots recently)
As a woman myself, I echo Ryorry's sentiment that even if I was punched by a man, I certainly would not want anyone to retaliate with the level of violence that was inflicted on that young man. Violence is not the right response to violence. That's how wars start and cause so much tragedy and devastation.
I would, however, want to press charges against anyone who assaulted me and let them face the courts and be punished appropriately.
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:38 - Jul 27 with 1576 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:34 - Jul 27 by Hugoagogo_Reborn
Texters, can you verify that the female police officer was actually punched? Genuine question. I've only seen articles that state 'a female officer had her nose broken'.
Thing is, that could happen in a struggle with a stray elbow, for example. I find it interesting that so much supposition is at play on both sides, ie "racially motivated attack", and "punched a woman". This kind of rhetoric is not helpful before facts are fully understood, and is the kind of thing that allows protests to get out of hand. (See the Leeds riots recently)
As a woman myself, I echo Ryorry's sentiment that even if I was punched by a man, I certainly would not want anyone to retaliate with the level of violence that was inflicted on that young man. Violence is not the right response to violence. That's how wars start and cause so much tragedy and devastation.
I would, however, want to press charges against anyone who assaulted me and let them face the courts and be punished appropriately.
Did you not see the video on page 6?
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:55 - Jul 27 with 1533 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:34 - Jul 27 by Hugoagogo_Reborn
Texters, can you verify that the female police officer was actually punched? Genuine question. I've only seen articles that state 'a female officer had her nose broken'.
Thing is, that could happen in a struggle with a stray elbow, for example. I find it interesting that so much supposition is at play on both sides, ie "racially motivated attack", and "punched a woman". This kind of rhetoric is not helpful before facts are fully understood, and is the kind of thing that allows protests to get out of hand. (See the Leeds riots recently)
As a woman myself, I echo Ryorry's sentiment that even if I was punched by a man, I certainly would not want anyone to retaliate with the level of violence that was inflicted on that young man. Violence is not the right response to violence. That's how wars start and cause so much tragedy and devastation.
I would, however, want to press charges against anyone who assaulted me and let them face the courts and be punished appropriately.
You can verify it yourself if you go back a couple of posts.
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:34 - Jul 27 by Hugoagogo_Reborn
Texters, can you verify that the female police officer was actually punched? Genuine question. I've only seen articles that state 'a female officer had her nose broken'.
Thing is, that could happen in a struggle with a stray elbow, for example. I find it interesting that so much supposition is at play on both sides, ie "racially motivated attack", and "punched a woman". This kind of rhetoric is not helpful before facts are fully understood, and is the kind of thing that allows protests to get out of hand. (See the Leeds riots recently)
As a woman myself, I echo Ryorry's sentiment that even if I was punched by a man, I certainly would not want anyone to retaliate with the level of violence that was inflicted on that young man. Violence is not the right response to violence. That's how wars start and cause so much tragedy and devastation.
I would, however, want to press charges against anyone who assaulted me and let them face the courts and be punished appropriately.
As others have said, see the CCTV.
It’s insane that a solicitor has tried to defend them, without seeing the CCTV which clearly shows how out of control the guys were.
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:11 - Jul 27 by textbackup
Be interested to hear reusersfreekicks view on this now.
Bet the police were still in the wrong 😂 proper cabbage
Ahh but the police officer was in the wrong, because of a video posted, just showing 1 side to the story, that they wanted the public to see... As you say, they didn't consider the context as to what led up to that point...
I mean, what the officer did was still excessive, but the CCTV footage paints a different story, as to why the officer may have reacted in that way..
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:25 - Jul 27 with 1431 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 19:34 - Jul 27 by Hugoagogo_Reborn
Texters, can you verify that the female police officer was actually punched? Genuine question. I've only seen articles that state 'a female officer had her nose broken'.
Thing is, that could happen in a struggle with a stray elbow, for example. I find it interesting that so much supposition is at play on both sides, ie "racially motivated attack", and "punched a woman". This kind of rhetoric is not helpful before facts are fully understood, and is the kind of thing that allows protests to get out of hand. (See the Leeds riots recently)
As a woman myself, I echo Ryorry's sentiment that even if I was punched by a man, I certainly would not want anyone to retaliate with the level of violence that was inflicted on that young man. Violence is not the right response to violence. That's how wars start and cause so much tragedy and devastation.
I would, however, want to press charges against anyone who assaulted me and let them face the courts and be punished appropriately.
Ah, no, I hadn't. I've watched it now, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Looks like that was posted just a couple of hours ago, so no evidence until today of this particular assault.
His behaviour is abhorrent, and he definitely should be held accountable, but I still don't agree that stamping on someone's head is becoming of an officer of law. It makes him no better than the man he has apprehended. His violence was thuggish, as was the original criminal act. If the first guy is guilty of assault, then so is the police officer.
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:30 - Jul 27 with 1408 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:25 - Jul 27 by Hugoagogo_Reborn
Ah, no, I hadn't. I've watched it now, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Looks like that was posted just a couple of hours ago, so no evidence until today of this particular assault.
His behaviour is abhorrent, and he definitely should be held accountable, but I still don't agree that stamping on someone's head is becoming of an officer of law. It makes him no better than the man he has apprehended. His violence was thuggish, as was the original criminal act. If the first guy is guilty of assault, then so is the police officer.
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As I said on page 6, the "victim" was rightly tasered, due to assaulting at least 2 police officers, this incapacitated him, which should have allowed them to safely detain him.. had it stopped there, job done.. reasonable force was used in that situation at that point...
What followed from the officer, was not used of reasonable force and is rightly being investigated
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:33 - Jul 27 by textbackup
Seconds after he started the fight, and was completely out of control.
I sincerely hope there’s a cover up, and the copper involved gets a ‘stern talking to’ by his superior, with a wink at the end.
The police deal with d*ckheads all the time. It's literally their job
It is absolutely not acceptable to start stamping on all of those people's heads. If people are ok with this behaviour then we are on a very dangerous slippery slope
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:15 - Jul 27 with 1249 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 18:57 - Jul 27 by NedPlimpton
Yeah because kicking and stamping on a guys head who has just been tasered is well hard
Don’t say that too loud, being perceived as ‘well hard’ is pretty much all that drives the firearms officers, as someone further back in this thread has already alluded to.
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:20 - Jul 27 with 1228 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:20 - Jul 27 by bluejacko
Nope ONE policeman lost it! So are you saying the others should not have done their duty?
I'm very simply saying that kicking a guy in the head who poses no threat because he has thousands of volts pulsing through him is 100% wrong. Any one who thinks different has some serious issues
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:45 - Jul 27 with 1169 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 22:45 - Jul 27 by GlasgowBlue
Utter scumbag the way he punched that female officer.
I am quite comfortable that he got a boot to the head. Officer should get a reprimand for going too far but nothing more. Such a high pressure situation.
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:07 - Jul 27 by baxterbasics
I am quite comfortable that he got a boot to the head. Officer should get a reprimand for going too far but nothing more. Such a high pressure situation.
Glad you are comfortable with police brutality. Maybe modern democracy and rule of law is not your bag
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:27 - Jul 27 with 1073 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:22 - Jul 27 by reusersfreekicks
Glad you are comfortable with police brutality. Maybe modern democracy and rule of law is not your bag
kicking someone on the ground is unreasonable force. but the extreme beating the officer took immediately before that is a mitigating factor. however good your training i imagine your judgement might be affected by an assault like that. as i say, a mitigating factor not a denial that the force used was unreasonable.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:28 - Jul 27 with 1059 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:08 - Jul 27 by textbackup
As others have said, see the CCTV.
It’s insane that a solicitor has tried to defend them, without seeing the CCTV which clearly shows how out of control the guys were.
The solicitor is the same guy who released the fake video of a Labour campaigner allegedly racially abusing someone prior to May's local elections (in which he was a candidate for the West Midlands mayoralty).
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:31 - Jul 27 with 1034 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 10:53 - Jul 26 by NeedhamChris
You're either incapable of understanding this or choosing not to. However I've not seen anyone on here defend the actions of the man concerned - would challenge you to find any examples that have.
Some of the more rabid members of our society on here seem to think that the police dishing out vigilante punishment is worth celebrating. Others think it's an unnecessary use of excessive force that wasn't needed in that instance.
It might be too complex a concept for you to comprehend, but it is possible to think both 1) what a despicable man for breaking the officers nose and 2) what a wholly inappropriate use of force it was
That's too nuanced for the up and at em morons on here
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 23:43 - Jul 27 with 963 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:11 - Jul 27 by textbackup
Be interested to hear reusersfreekicks view on this now.
Bet the police were still in the wrong 😂 proper cabbage
Awful assault on the police for which the perpetrators will be rightly charged and punished. Still doesn't make the subsequent assault right. Sorry if that's too complicated for you
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 08:04 - Jul 28 with 768 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 20:35 - Jul 27 by NedPlimpton
The police deal with d*ckheads all the time. It's literally their job
It is absolutely not acceptable to start stamping on all of those people's heads. If people are ok with this behaviour then we are on a very dangerous slippery slope
Armed police are rarely if ever attacked for obvious reasons.
They are trained to use their feet as are usually holding weapons and agree that last kick unnecessary but fully understand why now seeing the CCTV footage
The fact it happened in an airport they probably had justification to shoot them but anyone defending the attackers give your head a wobble.Absolute scum.
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Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 08:11 - Jul 28 with 750 views
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 08:04 - Jul 28 by DinDjarin
Armed police are rarely if ever attacked for obvious reasons.
They are trained to use their feet as are usually holding weapons and agree that last kick unnecessary but fully understand why now seeing the CCTV footage
The fact it happened in an airport they probably had justification to shoot them but anyone defending the attackers give your head a wobble.Absolute scum.
Nothing on the manchester airport thing yet? on 08:04 - Jul 28 by DinDjarin
Armed police are rarely if ever attacked for obvious reasons.
They are trained to use their feet as are usually holding weapons and agree that last kick unnecessary but fully understand why now seeing the CCTV footage
The fact it happened in an airport they probably had justification to shoot them but anyone defending the attackers give your head a wobble.Absolute scum.
Has anyone defended the attackers? Haven't seen it on here. There seems to be a lack of understanding from some that it's possible to believe that the police shouldn't stamp on heads whilst at the same time also believing that the initial attack on the police was completely unacceptable. It doesn't have to be one or the other.