| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. 04:04 - Nov 8 with 8209 views | Benters |
I was doing my usual circuits round Benters and the surrounding villages,I mostly keep to the same route in the winter months due to bad road conditions and pot holes etc.
I was slowing down to turn left as I turned into the lane some kind of fluid probably Diesel from a lorry or farm machine had been spilled on the road,my front wheel went from under me and crash bang whallop over I went.
Thankfully nothing is broken,just skinned my arm and leg also banged my head, that scared me as when I’ve fallen off before I’ve never hit my head.
Still as Mark Cavendish would have done,I jumped up straightened my brake lever and carried on for a further 15 miles.
I just wanted to say to people if you think you don’t need to wear a cycling helmet when you are cycling,my advise is you do. |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 19:24 - Nov 8 with 1099 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 06:54 - Nov 8 by GlasgowBlue |
Glad you are ok mate. Good advice re a helmet. I don’t see many people cycling without one these days but if I do it’s usually a youngster.
Take care on those roads Benters. |
Not round here it's not. At least as many older folks as young ones.
There is a lady who hit her head falling off a bike many years ago who is often around and badly affected by the resulting brain injury she suffered. For her it was probably before anyone really even thought to wear them. Now it is such an unnecessary risk.
PS Glad you are fine, Benters. |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 20:55 - Nov 8 with 1051 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 16:12 - Nov 8 by Benters |
On tracks and trials or roads ?
I went out with a mate he had a 4k mountain bike,I was on a early 80s road bike cost me £20 I noticed it caked in crap in someone’s garden I was working in.Anyway Mr fancy pants couldn’t keep up with me on the roads,but then I doubt I’d keep up with him on the tracks and trials. |
A little bit of both, mostly to and from a nearby pub.....some of my happiest recent memories though would be lockdown bike rides with Junior. |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 22:15 - Nov 8 with 1012 views | Keno |
Sounds scary, glad you are ok mate |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 22:29 - Nov 8 with 992 views | Churchman |
Stay safe and replace that helmet!! However ok it might look it may not be and it’s not good to find out the hard way! |  | | |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 22:37 - Nov 8 with 978 views | the_toff |
How big is your helmet? |  | | |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 05:42 - Nov 9 with 912 views | Benters |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 17:41 - Nov 8 by NthQldITFC |
That's what I do. They call it a do-rag, I think, and every time I put it on I sing to myself "the do-rag, rag, rag, the do-rag, rag." which I believe is some kind of old Motown song? |
I met him on a Sunday and his name was Bill that song ? | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 05:44 - Nov 9 with 912 views | Benters |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 17:58 - Nov 8 by Swansea_Blue |
There are very strong arguments against that second paper by the way. Multiple studies have shown helmets do reduce head injuries, but of course it's complicated as other factors do too (like not having diesel spills on corners!).
Benter's benefitted from one by the sounds of it. I've split a helmet before, which could easily have been my head instead. What they can't do is mitigate the damage in big crashes because cyclists are incredibly vulnerable compared to motorised road users. A little bit of polystyrene isn't going to stop someone getting splatted by a car. Which is why drivers/riders should take extra care around them, slow down and give them room. |
Spot on this. | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 05:47 - Nov 9 with 902 views | Benters |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 20:55 - Nov 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
A little bit of both, mostly to and from a nearby pub.....some of my happiest recent memories though would be lockdown bike rides with Junior. |
I hit a tree stump on my way back from the pub on the pub bike,the bloke it sort of belonged to forgot to tell me the brakes weren’t all that. | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 05:48 - Nov 9 with 899 views | Benters |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 22:37 - Nov 8 by the_toff |
How big is your helmet? |
Huwage ba. | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 08:53 - Nov 9 with 846 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 05:47 - Nov 9 by Benters |
I hit a tree stump on my way back from the pub on the pub bike,the bloke it sort of belonged to forgot to tell me the brakes weren’t all that. |
Pub helmet on I hope! | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 10:17 - Nov 9 with 820 views | Bluesky |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 08:20 - Nov 8 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Did you take off your stabilisers too soon?
Only joking!
I'll get pelters and downarrows galore for this, but studies on whether wearing cycle helmets improve safety or not are inconclusive.
It seems counterintuitive - and in your specific situation then yes the helmet did obviously help. However I've read studies in the past that led me to never wear a helmet. From things like drivers driving too close (because they subconsciously think you're safer) to cyclists themselves being slightly braver/more reckless in a helmet.
Good article here:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/mar/21/bike-helmet-cyclists-safe-u
Study here that overall, bizarrely, you're actually not safer in helmet;
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1410838/
Those saying, "Yes, you should definitely wear a helmet/they're a lifesaver" are not backed up by the evidence. |
I look at my head in the mirror. And I go out and look at the road. Then I put my helmet on. |  | | |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 10:39 - Nov 9 with 803 views | Benters |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 08:53 - Nov 9 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Pub helmet on I hope! |
No that was when I was a lot younger and the village was a lot quieter. | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 10:40 - Nov 9 with 802 views | Benters |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 10:17 - Nov 9 by Bluesky |
I look at my head in the mirror. And I go out and look at the road. Then I put my helmet on. |
Dolly would argue black was white in a phone box on his own.😂 | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 11:52 - Nov 9 with 780 views | stonojnr |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 10:17 - Nov 9 by Bluesky |
I look at my head in the mirror. And I go out and look at the road. Then I put my helmet on. |
I take it you do so also whilst driving a car ? | | | |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 13:34 - Nov 9 with 749 views | GNZ |
I cracked my shoulder turning right on a mini-roundabout - not nice.
The worst accident though was riding my beautiful Mercian fixed-wheel into the back of a car stopped on double yellow lines. I should have seen it but the car shouldn't have been there! 50/50?!
Anyway I went through the rear window ending up in the rear seat footwell and leaving a piece of my scalp with a tuft of hair on the rear parcel shelf. I know that because the police showed me the photos when I went to pick up the bike (which was wrecked) after leaving hospital.
I was not wearing a helmet which probably saved me. My head punched through like a karate punch. If the helmet had taken some of the momentum away, the neck would've taken the main fI cracked my shoulder turning right on a mini-roundabout - not nice.
The worst accident though was riding my beautiful Mercian fixed-wheel into the back of a car stopped on double yellow lines. I should have seen it but the car shouldn't have been there! 50/50?!
Anyway I went through the rear window ending up in the rear seat footwell and leaving a piece of my scalp with a tuft of hair on the rear parcel shelf. I know that because the police showed me the photos when I went to pick up the bike (which was wrecked) after leaving hospital.
I was not wearing a helmet which probably saved me. My head punched through like a karate punch. If the helmet had taken some of the momentum away, the neck would've taken the main force. | | | |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 13:38 - Nov 9 with 745 views | GNZ |
Sorry. Garbled post. Perhaps I've still got double vision! | | | |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:09 - Nov 9 with 735 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 10:17 - Nov 9 by Bluesky |
I look at my head in the mirror. And I go out and look at the road. Then I put my helmet on. |
Mock me if you like, and do what you want. I've literally just shared the science, and tried to be respectful of other's opinions as I've done so. |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:35 - Nov 9 with 711 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 10:19 - Nov 8 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There were other studies, this was just what first came to mind. I've been slated for my view (and citing this study as evidence) even by own family... but I'm willing to change if newer, or in some way better, studies contradict it.
I haven't cycled for a couple of years (since my bike got nicked) but have cycled most of my life before that (and about 15 years of that in central London rush hour) without much issue. Certainly no head injuries - as my brilliant and erudite posting shows !!?!?!
Edit as I forgot to add I've never worn a helmet. [Post edited 8 Nov 2024 10:26]
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Flash why do you need a study to know that a helmet protects your head hitting the ground more than not wearing one? |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:42 - Nov 9 with 704 views | NthQldITFC |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 20:55 - Nov 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
A little bit of both, mostly to and from a nearby pub.....some of my happiest recent memories though would be lockdown bike rides with Junior. |
Lockdown rides were FANTASTIC with minimal motorised traffic on the roads when all you could do was go out for your exercise - it wasn't just the road you were on being quiet, it was the fact that you couldn't even hear any internal combustion engines on bigger roads a field or two away. It was paradise for me, and a precious (if not entirely realistic!) view of what life might have been like in the early years of the twentieth century - before anyone starts, I know that's a heavily romanticised view, but so what. |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:57 - Nov 9 with 697 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:35 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Flash why do you need a study to know that a helmet protects your head hitting the ground more than not wearing one? |
Where have I said that?
You've claimed to not be a troll... so if this question isn't trolling then it's a really, really stupid one.
Read what I've actually written (rather than interpreting it in your own way as you've admitted to in the past) and also read the Guardian article I linked earlier. | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 15:11 - Nov 9 with 672 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:09 - Nov 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Mock me if you like, and do what you want. I've literally just shared the science, and tried to be respectful of other's opinions as I've done so. |
Minor point of order. You haven’t shared “the science”. You’ve linked one paper. Other scientific conclusions are available (I’ve no idea who’s right, but you can’t claim you’ve got the definitive answer after quoting one paper that has been challenged for accuracy). |  |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 15:13 - Nov 9 with 669 views | Zapers |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:35 - Nov 9 by FrimleyBlue |
Flash why do you need a study to know that a helmet protects your head hitting the ground more than not wearing one? |
It’s ok Frimley, even an idiot, well most idiots would know, it’s safer to wear a helmet under most circumstances. This is why motorcyclists wear one, people participating in all motor sports wear one, often in contact sports, people wear head protection.
But our resident know it all thinks differently. Disregard. | | | |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 15:37 - Nov 9 with 652 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 14:57 - Nov 9 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Where have I said that?
You've claimed to not be a troll... so if this question isn't trolling then it's a really, really stupid one.
Read what I've actually written (rather than interpreting it in your own way as you've admitted to in the past) and also read the Guardian article I linked earlier. |
Well you said you don't wear one and won't do until studys make you feel the need to.
I appreciate the links you shared and they do make for good reading.
But considering accidents happen anyway surely having protection on your head is just obvious isn't it? I just don't understand why someone would need a study to determin if they should wear a helmet.
Absolutely each to their own and we share our debates on Here but I honestly would hate for anyone I've shared my time with on here to end up with a head injury just because they didn't feel they'd read a study that convinced them to. So defo wanted to share my thought on this.
Don't take the risk. Imo | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 15:46 - Nov 9 with 632 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 15:11 - Nov 9 by Swansea_Blue |
Minor point of order. You haven’t shared “the science”. You’ve linked one paper. Other scientific conclusions are available (I’ve no idea who’s right, but you can’t claim you’ve got the definitive answer after quoting one paper that has been challenged for accuracy). |
Ok, "some" science. My bad. | |
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| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 15:47 - Nov 9 with 630 views | eireblue |
| So I had a crash on my bike Tuesday Morning. on 13:34 - Nov 9 by GNZ |
I cracked my shoulder turning right on a mini-roundabout - not nice.
The worst accident though was riding my beautiful Mercian fixed-wheel into the back of a car stopped on double yellow lines. I should have seen it but the car shouldn't have been there! 50/50?!
Anyway I went through the rear window ending up in the rear seat footwell and leaving a piece of my scalp with a tuft of hair on the rear parcel shelf. I know that because the police showed me the photos when I went to pick up the bike (which was wrecked) after leaving hospital.
I was not wearing a helmet which probably saved me. My head punched through like a karate punch. If the helmet had taken some of the momentum away, the neck would've taken the main fI cracked my shoulder turning right on a mini-roundabout - not nice.
The worst accident though was riding my beautiful Mercian fixed-wheel into the back of a car stopped on double yellow lines. I should have seen it but the car shouldn't have been there! 50/50?!
Anyway I went through the rear window ending up in the rear seat footwell and leaving a piece of my scalp with a tuft of hair on the rear parcel shelf. I know that because the police showed me the photos when I went to pick up the bike (which was wrecked) after leaving hospital.
I was not wearing a helmet which probably saved me. My head punched through like a karate punch. If the helmet had taken some of the momentum away, the neck would've taken the main force. |
It happened to you twice!
Man that’s unlucky. |  | | |
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