Boat crossings now out of control 07:56 - Nov 12 with 16501 views | onceablue | In the last 6 days 30 boats have arrived carrying 1806 people of which 1712 are men It is now worse than under the previous government This raises 2 questions What are the labour government doing to stop this as they were adamant they could sort this ? Unless all these men are single would you leave your wife and kids alone in a country where apparently there is persecution, war and lots of horrible things happening? |  | | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:36 - Nov 12 with 1341 views | lurcher |
Boat crossings now out of control on 09:57 - Nov 12 by ArnoldMoorhen | I sincerely doubt that most of them are EU passport holders! Freedom of Movement only applies to citizens of EU member States, and some adjacent States who have chosen to opt into the Schengen Agreement. While I did vote for Labour at the General Election, I am not an uncritical supporter of Starmer, but if it were possible for any Government to solve this complex problem, made worse by the damage Brexit has done to our relationships with European States when an international approach is essential, within six months, then the first question that should be asked is "Why the f*** did the previous lot not do that?" The answer is that it's a serious problem, requiring hard work, time and building relationships of trust with many other nations. The previous Prime Minister's included two who weren't serious people, came in and out of office so didn't have time, and put rhetoric and "Ra! Ra!" Nationalism ahead of building alliances with other nations. Oh, and possibly wanted the problem to persist so that we could all blame illegal immigrants for things like housing shortages and hospital waiting lists, rather than the austerity policies which they have deliberately wielded to destroy public services and other key strands of our social fabric. |
Freedom of movement was tightly coupled with accepting a fair quota of refugees and ultimately getting a trade deal. Whilst the UK wasn't in the schengen zone, we had benefits such as the right to live and work in it. As well as receiving benefits the same as indigenous citizens should you need them. As well the use of the camera recognition gates at points of entry. Should the UK accept a quota of refugees. It will be easy to strike a trade deal and make travelling on a UK passport easier. Its highly likely that other benefits will also be restored as those befits would be reciprocated. After Brexit the previous government removed the existing legal routes for refugees into the UK and we are where we are now. As an english citizen living in the Netherlands for the last 9 years, I can see the pointless damage done by Brexit. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:38 - Nov 12 with 1333 views | Nomore4 |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:32 - Nov 12 by leitrimblue | Intriguing, can you clarify in what way Ipswich Town Centre resembles most 3rd world countries on a Saturday? |
Yes I feel foreign. And most of them look Afghan, Iraqi etc. Yes they are 3rd world countries |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:40 - Nov 12 with 1314 views | lurcher |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:20 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | You do know people are losing there jobs left right and centre. In all sectors inc minimum wage |
And yet there are many jobs about, at all levels. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:40 - Nov 12 with 1317 views | Keno |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:38 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Yes I feel foreign. And most of them look Afghan, Iraqi etc. Yes they are 3rd world countries |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 13:41 - Nov 12 with 1301 views | eireblue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:28 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Ipswich Town Centre on a Saturday resembles most third world countries, as do most towns. Only the loony lefties refuse to see it. |
Ohhh, I am looking for some travel tips. Which third world countries have you spent most time in? Top five will be fine. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:41 - Nov 12 with 1294 views | Nomore4 |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:40 - Nov 12 by lurcher | And yet there are many jobs about, at all levels. |
LOL. Your 2 or 3 years behind |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:42 - Nov 12 with 1283 views | Nomore4 |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:40 - Nov 12 by Keno | you mean |
Yes correct. He’s from 3rd world country. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:48 - Nov 12 with 1249 views | Keno |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:42 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Yes correct. He’s from 3rd world country. |
Not sure many people from Liverpool would like that |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 13:49 - Nov 12 with 1231 views | GlasgowBlue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:28 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Ipswich Town Centre on a Saturday resembles most third world countries, as do most towns. Only the loony lefties refuse to see it. |
What is you object to when you see a culturally diverse town centre? |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 13:49 - Nov 12 with 1237 views | Nomore4 |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:41 - Nov 12 by eireblue | Ohhh, I am looking for some travel tips. Which third world countries have you spent most time in? Top five will be fine. |
Love striking a nerve with the Lefty Loons. 😊 Anyway must crack on…Taxes to pay….You all benefit scrounges or on your lunch break? No no don’t bother explaining it’s obvious. Ta ta |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:51 - Nov 12 with 1221 views | StokieBlue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:49 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Love striking a nerve with the Lefty Loons. 😊 Anyway must crack on…Taxes to pay….You all benefit scrounges or on your lunch break? No no don’t bother explaining it’s obvious. Ta ta |
A considered post full of well made points and constructive ideas on how we move forward. SB |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:57 - Nov 12 with 1184 views | reusersfreekicks |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:31 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | They don’t get benefits. They get allowances….paid for by the grafter’s of this country. |
Top 30s Germany vilification - you must be so proud |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:57 - Nov 12 with 1183 views | eireblue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:49 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Love striking a nerve with the Lefty Loons. 😊 Anyway must crack on…Taxes to pay….You all benefit scrounges or on your lunch break? No no don’t bother explaining it’s obvious. Ta ta |
Wait what, you don’t have any travel tips, well that’s very disappointing. If it makes your life better, and you feel much better for posting a few comments, and trying to get a snide little dig in on an anonymous message board. Have at it. Seriously, if that improves your life go for it. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:58 - Nov 12 with 1178 views | reusersfreekicks |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:41 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | LOL. Your 2 or 3 years behind |
Says Alf Garnett |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:00 - Nov 12 with 1162 views | GlasgowBlue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:42 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Yes correct. He’s from 3rd world country. |
Mesopotamia had technology, literature, legal codes, philosophy, religion, and architecture at a time when the inhabitants of this island were living in caves. |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 14:06 - Nov 12 with 1136 views | Zapers |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:49 - Nov 12 by GlasgowBlue | What is you object to when you see a culturally diverse town centre? |
Possibly the lengthening queue at the GP clinics, the waiting times required at the NHS, the increase in crime rates etc, etc. But it's ok, you just keep on borrowing money to pay for everything. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:07 - Nov 12 with 1134 views | hype313 |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:49 - Nov 12 by GlasgowBlue | What is you object to when you see a culturally diverse town centre? |
If I'm honest, large groups of men congregating around the Town centre is intimidating for many, especially females. My sister, nieces and mother all feel uneasy walking around Ipswich, which is why they avoid the place now as much as possible. That's not to say they are out to get anyone, or cause trouble etc but dismissing peoples concerns like these, is exactly why the likes of Trump get put in power. |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 14:18 - Nov 12 with 1058 views | blueasfook |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:00 - Nov 12 by GlasgowBlue | Mesopotamia had technology, literature, legal codes, philosophy, religion, and architecture at a time when the inhabitants of this island were living in caves. |
So what happened to Mashapotato or whatever its called? What is it called today? |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 14:21 - Nov 12 with 1052 views | GlasgowBlue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:06 - Nov 12 by Zapers | Possibly the lengthening queue at the GP clinics, the waiting times required at the NHS, the increase in crime rates etc, etc. But it's ok, you just keep on borrowing money to pay for everything. |
That has nothing to do with the town centre looking like a third world country. You seemed to objecting to what you saw the town ctre look like rather than the perceived strain on public services from immigration. But if you object to Ipswich Town centre looking culturally diverse you are in for one hell of a shock when you next need hospital treatment though the same NHS claiming that immigrants put a strain on. |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 14:43 - Nov 12 with 982 views | redrickstuhaart |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:07 - Nov 12 by hype313 | If I'm honest, large groups of men congregating around the Town centre is intimidating for many, especially females. My sister, nieces and mother all feel uneasy walking around Ipswich, which is why they avoid the place now as much as possible. That's not to say they are out to get anyone, or cause trouble etc but dismissing peoples concerns like these, is exactly why the likes of Trump get put in power. |
This is absolitely right. Though has littlebto do with boats and more to do with previous mass eu immigration from eastern eirope in most places. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:53 - Nov 12 with 941 views | GlasgowBlue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:07 - Nov 12 by hype313 | If I'm honest, large groups of men congregating around the Town centre is intimidating for many, especially females. My sister, nieces and mother all feel uneasy walking around Ipswich, which is why they avoid the place now as much as possible. That's not to say they are out to get anyone, or cause trouble etc but dismissing peoples concerns like these, is exactly why the likes of Trump get put in power. |
I've said on numerous occasions that we should engage and debate with people who have genuine concerns. But the poster didn't originally enter the debate from a position of being concerned about housing or NHS waiting lists. They went straight in with things like "third world country" "benefit scroungers" and "loony left" |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 14:59 - Nov 12 with 919 views | LeoMuff |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:42 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Yes correct. He’s from 3rd world country. |
If Iraq is a third world country, would that not be our fault for bombing their country, invading and stealing their natural resources ? All because Sadam tried to kill George Ws daddy ? I have no idea if it is a third world country btw |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 15:00 - Nov 12 with 910 views | Swansea_Blue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 14:00 - Nov 12 by GlasgowBlue | Mesopotamia had technology, literature, legal codes, philosophy, religion, and architecture at a time when the inhabitants of this island were living in caves. |
And Wakanda has advanced alien defence systems while we can’t even get trains that run on time. Funny how people always overlook that… |  |
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Boat crossings now out of control on 15:40 - Nov 12 with 842 views | leitrimblue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:38 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Yes I feel foreign. And most of them look Afghan, Iraqi etc. Yes they are 3rd world countries |
More honest reply then I imagined. |  | |  |
Boat crossings now out of control on 15:42 - Nov 12 with 835 views | leitrimblue |
Boat crossings now out of control on 13:49 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 | Love striking a nerve with the Lefty Loons. 😊 Anyway must crack on…Taxes to pay….You all benefit scrounges or on your lunch break? No no don’t bother explaining it’s obvious. Ta ta |
Surely if you were a benefit scrounger you wouldn't get much of a lunch break due to not being in employment? |  | |  |
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