| Boat crossings now out of control 07:56 - Nov 12 with 16199 views | onceablue |
In the last 6 days 30 boats have arrived carrying 1806 people of which 1712 are men
It is now worse than under the previous government
This raises 2 questions
What are the labour government doing to stop this as they were adamant they could sort this ?
Unless all these men are single would you leave your wife and kids alone in a country where apparently there is persecution, war and lots of horrible things happening?
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 22:03 - Nov 12 with 2011 views | bluelagos |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 21:43 - Nov 12 by Lamp |
Point of order - Third World was not created as a racist term. It referred to countries that were not aligned with the Capitalist powers (1st World) or the Communist bloc (2nd world) |
Yep, that was how it was taught to me at school, as a term from a time when the communist countries were termed the 2nd world.
Nowadays, "developing world" is more widely used, without the connotations of being behind or worse than the developed world. Development is a process and some countries are simply behind others in that journey.
But that term is still loaded and is why many organisations now use the phrase the "global south" more and more, which is less loaded still. Think Oxfam defo use the term.
**My knowledge of development and the terminology is a bit out of date having not worked in development for over 10 years. |  |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 22:17 - Nov 12 with 1968 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:15 - Nov 12 by Benters |
There is plenty of room on this little Island of ours !
All are welcome đź‘Ť |
Some utter prick once posted that they'd greet them with a machine gun from the cliffs of Dover. Luckily such a stain on the board would never be allowed back on though... Right... Oh. |  | | |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 22:51 - Nov 12 with 1888 views | Bigalhunter |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 22:17 - Nov 12 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
Some utter prick once posted that they'd greet them with a machine gun from the cliffs of Dover. Luckily such a stain on the board would never be allowed back on though... Right... Oh. |
Being fair to admin, I guess it gave said prick time to reflect and return a better person…
Oh… |  |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 22:56 - Nov 12 with 1866 views | noggin |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:38 - Nov 12 by Nomore4 |
Yes I feel foreign. And most of them look Afghan, Iraqi etc.
Yes they are 3rd world countries |
You're a true patriot man! Can you DM me details of how I can join your White Power group? Britain for WASPs!! |  |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 23:02 - Nov 12 with 1844 views | Bigalhunter |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 21:34 - Nov 12 by Bigalhunter |
Thanks for asking, Amazon guy left my parcel at the house three doors down from mine today, but then they seem to work on the theory that any porch on the right street is good enough. I’ve sort of forgiven him now, though.
Apart from all these swarthy foreign males stealing your birthright, everything okey-dokey with you, babes? |
Obviously not…
Off to bed to cosy up with his favourite Jim Davidson video and a nice warm mug of resentment…
Nick Nick
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 23:04 - Nov 12 with 1838 views | noggin |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 22:17 - Nov 12 by DropCliffsNotBombs |
Some utter prick once posted that they'd greet them with a machine gun from the cliffs of Dover. Luckily such a stain on the board would never be allowed back on though... Right... Oh. |
Tbf, Bentley village has seen an invasion of illegal immigrants this year. Hordes of them, all getting free houses, cars and hundreds of pounds a week in spending money. Walk around the village green these days and you won't hear anyone speaking English. | |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 23:59 - Nov 12 with 1765 views | Bigalhunter |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 23:04 - Nov 12 by noggin |
Tbf, Bentley village has seen an invasion of illegal immigrants this year. Hordes of them, all getting free houses, cars and hundreds of pounds a week in spending money. Walk around the village green these days and you won't hear anyone speaking English. |
Indeed, driving round in their Mercs, paid for by the hard-working indigenous population and dumping diesel on the country roads to snare unsuspecting cyclists…
Oh for a simpler time, when the white man was king of his council estate and only resented the posh git round the corner with the Ford Cortina and kids who knew how to use cutlery. [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 0:10]
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 04:27 - Nov 13 with 1650 views | Zapers |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 14:21 - Nov 12 by GlasgowBlue |
That has nothing to do with the town centre looking like a third world country. You seemed to objecting to what you saw the town ctre look like rather than the perceived strain on public services from immigration.
But if you object to Ipswich Town centre looking culturally diverse you are in for one hell of a shock when you next need hospital treatment though the same NHS claiming that immigrants put a strain on. |
I haven't had the pleasure of walking through Ipswich for many years, i think you are mixing me up with another poster GB.
I have no doubt that many immigrants have been a valuable addition to the UK, especially the NHS.
However that is not my point. The UK, like the US is in serious debt. We cannot afford thousands of immigrants that don't contribute to the economy.
No British government has so far successfully stopped these boats. They say they want to, because most people in the UK voted to reduce illegal immigration, but i'm pretty sure that nothing will happen with Starmer in charge, however long he remain PM.
Anyone who highlights this being a serious issue, normally gets abuse from the same old posters.
Even government books have to be balanced, and we are a long, long way from achieving that.
The longer it continues without being resolved, the more likely Reform will become a serious challenge to Labour. | | | |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 04:48 - Nov 13 with 1634 views | Zapers |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 20:31 - Nov 12 by blueasfook |
What's up "BigAl"? You seem a bit irked about something? |
Best to ignore it bluas, it's not the brightest and sharpest tool in the box. | | | |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 04:55 - Nov 13 with 1630 views | Zapers |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 21:34 - Nov 12 by Bigalhunter |
Thanks for asking, Amazon guy left my parcel at the house three doors down from mine today, but then they seem to work on the theory that any porch on the right street is good enough. I’ve sort of forgiven him now, though.
Apart from all these swarthy foreign males stealing your birthright, everything okey-dokey with you, babes? |
I can understand why that ruined your day. Must be tough being so precious. | | | |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 05:00 - Nov 13 with 1637 views | Benters |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 16:14 - Nov 12 by factual_blue |
The UK - only the 51st most densely populated country in the world.
However, large parts of its population are clearly dense. |
Thanks xx. [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 5:10]
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 05:06 - Nov 13 with 1631 views | Benters |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 23:04 - Nov 12 by noggin |
Tbf, Bentley village has seen an invasion of illegal immigrants this year. Hordes of them, all getting free houses, cars and hundreds of pounds a week in spending money. Walk around the village green these days and you won't hear anyone speaking English. |
Actually this has happened.
The Londoners are pilling out to the villages of North Essex. | |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 07:46 - Nov 13 with 1533 views | Mullet |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 21:43 - Nov 12 by Lamp |
Point of order - Third World was not created as a racist term. It referred to countries that were not aligned with the Capitalist powers (1st World) or the Communist bloc (2nd world) |
No one said it was in fairness. But the use of it here, and in general use today, is quite clearly to demean people and the go to for racists. |  |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 08:11 - Nov 13 with 1477 views | bluelagos |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 07:46 - Nov 13 by Mullet |
No one said it was in fairness. But the use of it here, and in general use today, is quite clearly to demean people and the go to for racists. |
I'd push back on that a little.
I have no doubt that your average racist will use the term "3rd world" with little appreciation of the condescending tone, or indeed happily believing that large parts of the world are "inferior".
But there are lots of people for who "3rd world" is simply the term they have been brought up with and who are unaware of the fact that it is seen as a loaded term with alternatives.
Perhaps similar to people who use terms like "policeman" rather than "police officer" or "Chairman" rather than "Chair" . The sexism is largely unconscious in this case but I don't think that automatically makes the user sexist, if that makes sense. | |
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| Quite, but…. on 08:35 - Nov 13 with 1433 views | Bloots |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 08:11 - Nov 13 by bluelagos |
I'd push back on that a little.
I have no doubt that your average racist will use the term "3rd world" with little appreciation of the condescending tone, or indeed happily believing that large parts of the world are "inferior".
But there are lots of people for who "3rd world" is simply the term they have been brought up with and who are unaware of the fact that it is seen as a loaded term with alternatives.
Perhaps similar to people who use terms like "policeman" rather than "police officer" or "Chairman" rather than "Chair" . The sexism is largely unconscious in this case but I don't think that automatically makes the user sexist, if that makes sense. |
….nuance will not be tolerated on this forum.
The rare times I hear the phrase now, it’s usually being used to describe the area you find yourself in rather than any actual reference to what was historically known as “the 3rd world”,
Walking out of Northumberland Park station “blimey, this sh1thole looks like the 3rd world”.
Do cricketers/commentators still refer to the “subcontinent”? That sounds a bit dodgy these days. |  |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 10:28 - Nov 13 with 1315 views | Mullet |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 08:11 - Nov 13 by bluelagos |
I'd push back on that a little.
I have no doubt that your average racist will use the term "3rd world" with little appreciation of the condescending tone, or indeed happily believing that large parts of the world are "inferior".
But there are lots of people for who "3rd world" is simply the term they have been brought up with and who are unaware of the fact that it is seen as a loaded term with alternatives.
Perhaps similar to people who use terms like "policeman" rather than "police officer" or "Chairman" rather than "Chair" . The sexism is largely unconscious in this case but I don't think that automatically makes the user sexist, if that makes sense. |
Sure, but that wasn’t the point being made - unless you and the other person disagree with Phil’s assessment too. The intent was pretty clear in this context when you’re attaching it to people. I’d say not being aware in this day and age is getting thinner and thinner too fwiw. | |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 11:49 - Nov 13 with 1219 views | blueasfook |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 04:48 - Nov 13 by Zapers |
Best to ignore it bluas, it's not the brightest and sharpest tool in the box. |
Just a sad and pathetic old troll. Mostly only comes on here to needle a small group of people he has a problem with. I hope we provide a little joy in his otherwise empty life. |  |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 11:52 - Nov 13 with 1198 views | blueasfook |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 19:12 - Nov 12 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Well yeah, nobody wants homosexuality as an insult. But surely the joke here was Tories and pedophilia. You can't just say "underage boys weren't mentioned" and then brush it under the carpet so you can get offended by a homosexuality joke.
Again, context.
It's horrible what your daughter's had to go through. Disgusting. But this 'joke' clearly has nothing to do with that. I understand why you'd be triggered around this topic, but as someone with no skin in the game (other than I'm massively woke) I really don't think the intention is what you thought it was.
EDIT : To add to this, I've just looked back, and I was spot on. Keno said, "
So do you think he is only interested in fit young men..." which you had no problem with. No comment or downarrow. Then Noggin said, "Fit young men, in rubber. dinghies..."
We all knew the 'joke' at that point. Still no comment or downarrow from you. Finally Passion adds: "So he’s a Tory councilor then in all probability!?"
So the bit you got offended by was "Tory councilor".
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You mean the point at which it resorted to a slur on a stereotype. I understand you are a bit dim, so if you need it explaining, am happy to do so. | |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 12:33 - Nov 13 with 1112 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 11:52 - Nov 13 by blueasfook |
You mean the point at which it resorted to a slur on a stereotype. I understand you are a bit dim, so if you need it explaining, am happy to do so. |
Yeah, it's a slur on a stereotype... about Tory councillors and pedophilia.
Glassers problem with it was he saw it was a homophobic slur, which is a different thing.
I am a bit dim though, you're quite right there. |  |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:08 - Nov 13 with 1054 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 12:33 - Nov 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Yeah, it's a slur on a stereotype... about Tory councillors and pedophilia.
Glassers problem with it was he saw it was a homophobic slur, which is a different thing.
I am a bit dim though, you're quite right there. |
I’m rather busy today so wasn’t coming back to this. However, paedophillia wasn’t mentioned.in the thread. The words “young men “ was. A young man is an adult not a child. So the inference was onceablue must be a Tory councillor because he likes “young men”. Homosexuality was used to embarrass onceablue. I disagree with OAB’s view on immigration but to embarrass him by suggesting he like “young men” simply isn’t on.
As an aside, which “Tory” was convicted of paedophilia. Are convictions for paedophilia exclusive to the Tories. The last politician convicted for paedophilia that I can remembe was Lord Janner, a Labour Peer. Of course I stand to be corrected but your interpretation of passion’s homophobic dig doesn’t really work.
Chosing homophobia as a hill to die on isn’t a great look dollers. [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 13:08]
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:29 - Nov 13 with 974 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:08 - Nov 13 by GlasgowBlue |
I’m rather busy today so wasn’t coming back to this. However, paedophillia wasn’t mentioned.in the thread. The words “young men “ was. A young man is an adult not a child. So the inference was onceablue must be a Tory councillor because he likes “young men”. Homosexuality was used to embarrass onceablue. I disagree with OAB’s view on immigration but to embarrass him by suggesting he like “young men” simply isn’t on.
As an aside, which “Tory” was convicted of paedophilia. Are convictions for paedophilia exclusive to the Tories. The last politician convicted for paedophilia that I can remembe was Lord Janner, a Labour Peer. Of course I stand to be corrected but your interpretation of passion’s homophobic dig doesn’t really work.
Chosing homophobia as a hill to die on isn’t a great look dollers. [Post edited 13 Nov 2024 13:08]
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As I said, I didn't read it as homophobic and certainly wouldn't endorse anything homophobic, I think you know me well enough to know that.
Maybe I got it wrong but I thought the stereotype (whether it's true or not) was about Tories and young boys. I've not heard of Tory councillors being gay as a stereotype.
And the bit which bemused me was you didn't have a problem with the other insinuations;
"Counting the men?"
"he seems to paying particular (attention) to the men isn't he"
"So do you think he is only interested in fit young men"
"Fit young men, in rubber. dinghies"
"well built, muscular, suavey looking, dripping wet men"
All of these were fine by you. No comment or downarrow on any of them. So I find it odd you crying "homophobia" when the only thing you got annoyed about was "So he’s a Tory councilor then in all probability!?" It's almost as if you like those other posters but don't like Passion, so decided to put the boot in there.
Incidentally, Passion has privately DMed me - I won't go into details as it's private but from what he's said it's very very unlikely he'd be homophobic. | |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:39 - Nov 13 with 963 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:29 - Nov 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
As I said, I didn't read it as homophobic and certainly wouldn't endorse anything homophobic, I think you know me well enough to know that.
Maybe I got it wrong but I thought the stereotype (whether it's true or not) was about Tories and young boys. I've not heard of Tory councillors being gay as a stereotype.
And the bit which bemused me was you didn't have a problem with the other insinuations;
"Counting the men?"
"he seems to paying particular (attention) to the men isn't he"
"So do you think he is only interested in fit young men"
"Fit young men, in rubber. dinghies"
"well built, muscular, suavey looking, dripping wet men"
All of these were fine by you. No comment or downarrow on any of them. So I find it odd you crying "homophobia" when the only thing you got annoyed about was "So he’s a Tory councilor then in all probability!?" It's almost as if you like those other posters but don't like Passion, so decided to put the boot in there.
Incidentally, Passion has privately DMed me - I won't go into details as it's private but from what he's said it's very very unlikely he'd be homophobic. |
If you read page 3 of this thread it's pretty homophobic though not at all led by Passionnotanger. |  | | |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:42 - Nov 13 with 948 views | BrayBlue |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 14:06 - Nov 12 by Zapers |
Possibly the lengthening queue at the GP clinics, the waiting times required at the NHS, the increase in crime rates etc, etc.
But it's ok, you just keep on borrowing money to pay for everything. |
Nothing to do with 14 years of Tory cuts then?
Cheers,
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:47 - Nov 13 with 937 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Boat crossings now out of control on 13:39 - Nov 13 by reusersfreekicks |
If you read page 3 of this thread it's pretty homophobic though not at all led by Passionnotanger. |
That's my point!
All my quotes there are from page 3 - and Glassers didn't complain about any of them.
The stuff that to me could look homophobic came from other posters. I thought Passion's comment was a joke on Tory councillors, not homophobia necessarily. | |
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| Boat crossings now out of control on 14:07 - Nov 13 with 912 views | Pinewoodblue |
The problem cannot be resolved by Starmer. The problem is people being allowed to leave France, by illegal means, while the French authorities, funded by British taxpayers, stand idly by. |  |
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