| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:58 - Apr 9 with 1368 views | sjg |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:32 - Apr 9 by tractorboy1978 |
Who was the last player we sold for £15m more than we paid for them? It's obviously far from ideal but kind of it what it is. We are going to be better off than Southampton who he turned down in the summer and didn't get the benefit of having him for a season.
Who saw him taking the PL by storm and doing what he has done? I am not sure even McKenna or he himself would have done. |
It's about exposure. Maximum we could make from Delap is < £10m if we go down, the MOST we could LOSE on many players (Greaves, Philogene, Clarke, etc) is around £20m (not saying they will go on a free, but you look at Jack Rodwell at Sunderland as an example of a worst case scenario with a transfer). You would have to say this player trading is far from perfect. |  | |  |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:59 - Apr 9 with 1364 views | J2BLUE |
I would be shocked if this was true. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:59 - Apr 9 with 1363 views | soupytwist |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:38 - Apr 9 by tractorboy1978 |
We do know what it took to get the deal over the line though. It was reported at the time the deal was identical for us and Southampton and Delap had to choose. So would you rather he went to Southampton? [Post edited 9 Apr 16:38]
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Would I rather have had one season of Delap, roughly £8m at the end of it and Southampton also relegated, or someone else who may have scored a similar number of goals, who would also be available to us next season whatever division we're in and £8 million in Southampton's pocket?
It's close, but option 2 please.
Edited to include what Soton would have made from the deal. [Post edited 9 Apr 17:33]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:01 - Apr 9 with 1356 views | bsw72 |
It is what it is - when we signed a relatively unknown 21 year old in the summer, I doubted we would have expected him to shine like he has while the overall team performance has lead to relegation.
It's easy to moan in hindsight, but in the context of the deal at the time was probably a reasonable clause to enter . . . |  | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:02 - Apr 9 with 1328 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:54 - Apr 9 by tractorboy1978 |
Well that would have obviously been something stipulated by his agent wouldn't it. We haven't just stuck a £30m release clause in there for sh!ts and giggles. |
It's a negotiation, neither of us know what happened. City themselves would be more interested in a higher sell on fee and had agreed terms with both. |  | | |
| "We are very, very well protected" (n/t) on 17:03 - Apr 9 with 1293 views | Bloots |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:59 - Apr 9 by J2BLUE |
I would be shocked if this was true. |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:05 - Apr 9 with 1258 views | sjg |
Omari's is also £30m lol | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:06 - Apr 9 with 1257 views | bsw72 |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:05 - Apr 9 by sjg |
Omari's is also £30m lol |
I'd take that for him, but doubt anyone is going to offer near that. | | | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:07 - Apr 9 with 1246 views | HighgateBlue |
So this clause would appear to be a clause in the contract /between Town and Delap/ that we will let him go if (a) we are relegated, and (b) a club (any club he fancies) bids £30m for him.
I don't like buyback option clauses in favour of the selling club, and I don't think they should be permitted. But given that Man City are said not to be interested, this clause appears to be a bi-partite clause between us and the player. So if we've been played in negotiations, we've been played by Delap (through his agent), rather than by City.
I guess it's just one of those clauses that you have to agree to, but it's a pretty bitter pill, given that he's been such a wild success, and will instantly be worth double that if he's bought by a top club.
I don't know what this 20% clause is, in favour of City - if it's 20% of the profit, fine. If it's 20% of the entire transfer fee, then they will be making nearly as much profit out of this deal as we will be, which is a farce. |  | | |
| It's a terrible deal.... on 17:08 - Apr 9 with 1224 views | Markp68 |
| It's a terrible deal.... on 16:49 - Apr 9 by Bloots |
....we are gonna make about £10m on the most valuable asset the club has ever had, at a time when there's more money being paid in transfer fees than ever before.
We have a hopeless record when it comes to selling players under the new ownership. |
Didn’t mean to give you an up at all on this. Fat fingers when moving the screen. I disagree it’s “a terrible deal” as only Delap, his agent and MA know what it took to get the deal done. If it’s £8m in our pockets at the end of the day on a £15-20m outlay that’s still a decent percentage mark up but yes probably undervalued for what he’s now worth but as many said, no one thought he’d be this good this quick. At the end of the day we’ll never know as Town never disclose how much we buy or sell at so all these figures are conjecture. | | | |
| "Well protected" on 17:08 - Apr 9 with 1213 views | Trequartista |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:10 - Apr 9 with 1177 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:06 - Apr 9 by bsw72 |
I'd take that for him, but doubt anyone is going to offer near that. |
I reckon they would |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:11 - Apr 9 with 1154 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:59 - Apr 9 by soupytwist |
Would I rather have had one season of Delap, roughly £8m at the end of it and Southampton also relegated, or someone else who may have scored a similar number of goals, who would also be available to us next season whatever division we're in and £8 million in Southampton's pocket?
It's close, but option 2 please.
Edited to include what Soton would have made from the deal. [Post edited 9 Apr 17:33]
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Like Cameron Archer for example? Who is the player Southampton ended up getting for £15m. The reason a club won't be in for him is because he's largely been sh!te. If he had scored 12-15 goals this season he would also be off somewhere this summer.
We will end up with £27m after paying City the sell on fee and with scope to spend a good sum of money again on a replacement. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:11 - Apr 9 with 1138 views | DublinBlue84 |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:18 - Apr 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That is not good at all.
Not good at all. |
For all those criticising Ashton.
Remember the clause is £30m if we go down. The figure would have been higher if we would have stayed up.
It is highly likely that Delap would only agree to come to us on the basis that he could get out for a discounted fee if he had a good season and the club had a bad one.
If we would have stayed up the clause probably is £40m+.
Those lashing out at Ashton need to get real about how deals in football work. If the club put everything it wanted in every time nobody would ever sign for us. The clue is in the word 'deal' not 'lets write a contract and force the other side to accept it' | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:11 - Apr 9 with 1143 views | DJR |
If it's as low as that, there could be a few bidders on top of Chelsea and Man Utd, which will presumably mean we get more a fair bit more than £30 million.
Having said that, the article perhaps suggests that if Delap decides on, say, Man Utd, it's automatically £30 million but that would impact on Man City's cut, so why would they have agreed to that?
Or am I missing something? [Post edited 9 Apr 17:14]
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| It's a terrible deal.... on 17:11 - Apr 9 with 1139 views | bsw72 |
| It's a terrible deal.... on 16:49 - Apr 9 by Bloots |
....we are gonna make about £10m on the most valuable asset the club has ever had, at a time when there's more money being paid in transfer fees than ever before.
We have a hopeless record when it comes to selling players under the new ownership. |
It's almost certain that without this clause, we would never have signed him and therefore never had him as an asset. These clauses are 99% of the time inserted by the player (via Agent) so that they are protected for their career at a price point they feel they can justify.
It's pretty ballsy by Delap to agree to a figure of £30M considering the lack of PL experience, I imagine he probably went in at £20 or £25 and the club pushed for higher until they settled on this figure - which goes to show how much Delap backed himself / his confidence in his ability. | | | |
| It's a terrible deal.... on 17:12 - Apr 9 with 1127 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| It's a terrible deal.... on 17:08 - Apr 9 by Markp68 |
Didn’t mean to give you an up at all on this. Fat fingers when moving the screen. I disagree it’s “a terrible deal” as only Delap, his agent and MA know what it took to get the deal done. If it’s £8m in our pockets at the end of the day on a £15-20m outlay that’s still a decent percentage mark up but yes probably undervalued for what he’s now worth but as many said, no one thought he’d be this good this quick. At the end of the day we’ll never know as Town never disclose how much we buy or sell at so all these figures are conjecture. |
Muric cost GBP8M just for context, it's not good for us whatever way you try and spin it with his current market value. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:12 - Apr 9 with 1120 views | bsw72 |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:11 - Apr 9 by DJR |
If it's as low as that, there could be a few bidders on top of Chelsea and Man Utd, which will presumably mean we get more a fair bit more than £30 million.
Having said that, the article perhaps suggests that if Delap decides on, say, Man Utd, it's automatically £30 million but that would impact on Man City's cut, so why would they have agreed to that?
Or am I missing something? [Post edited 9 Apr 17:14]
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We have to sell at £30M, after that it's down to Delap where he goes - he holds all the negotiating power once that £30M is met, why would a club offer more in transfer fee, they will load his wages? | | | |
| Yes, you are. (n/t) on 17:13 - Apr 9 with 1086 views | Bloots |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:11 - Apr 9 by DJR |
If it's as low as that, there could be a few bidders on top of Chelsea and Man Utd, which will presumably mean we get more a fair bit more than £30 million.
Having said that, the article perhaps suggests that if Delap decides on, say, Man Utd, it's automatically £30 million but that would impact on Man City's cut, so why would they have agreed to that?
Or am I missing something? [Post edited 9 Apr 17:14]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:13 - Apr 9 with 1094 views | bluejacko |
I suppose Ashtons has sat down with all these journos and spilled the beans hasn’t he🙄FFS Phil put all these in one thread to save us the heartache! | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:14 - Apr 9 with 1072 views | JimmyJazz |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:11 - Apr 9 by DublinBlue84 |
For all those criticising Ashton.
Remember the clause is £30m if we go down. The figure would have been higher if we would have stayed up.
It is highly likely that Delap would only agree to come to us on the basis that he could get out for a discounted fee if he had a good season and the club had a bad one.
If we would have stayed up the clause probably is £40m+.
Those lashing out at Ashton need to get real about how deals in football work. If the club put everything it wanted in every time nobody would ever sign for us. The clue is in the word 'deal' not 'lets write a contract and force the other side to accept it' |
I wonder if the release clause is double our outlay, hence switching from 40m to 30m if it's considered to now only be double the 15m and not the full 20m? [Post edited 9 Apr 17:27]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:17 - Apr 9 with 1049 views | DublinBlue84 |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:11 - Apr 9 by DJR |
If it's as low as that, there could be a few bidders on top of Chelsea and Man Utd, which will presumably mean we get more a fair bit more than £30 million.
Having said that, the article perhaps suggests that if Delap decides on, say, Man Utd, it's automatically £30 million but that would impact on Man City's cut, so why would they have agreed to that?
Or am I missing something? [Post edited 9 Apr 17:14]
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You have no idea how football transfers work.
Everyone who wants him will bid £30m and he'll then be able to talk to anyone and everyone who bids that. Nobody can stop them. If someone bids £35m because they have some sort of desire to burn cash for whatever reason (which would be idiotic), the player could still turn them down to join the club who bid £30m if he wants.
People who are talking about auctions and people offering higher amounts are totally ignorant to how the whole things works. When a release clause is involved there is no benefit to paying a cent more. This is not like a normal transfer where there is no release clause. | |
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| Yes, you are. (n/t) on 17:18 - Apr 9 with 1035 views | DJR |
| Yes, you are. (n/t) on 17:13 - Apr 9 by Bloots |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:19 - Apr 9 with 1033 views | Guthrum |
A year's service from one of the most exciting young strikers in England, plus £8m at the end of it and people are talking like we've been ripped off!
Had it been a loan, would probably have cost us that much. |  |
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| Yes, you are. (n/t) on 17:18 - Apr 9 by DJR |
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