| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:11 - Apr 9 with 1573 views | Smoresy |
Oof, a blanket release clause wasn't on people's radar, let alone the modest sum! The Athletic's source was total rubbish if this is the case, not to mention Romford's lol. |  | |  |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:36 - Apr 9 with 1471 views | Churchman |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 19:17 - Apr 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Nick Ames is in the know at ITFC. |
Is he on the Board? Does he work for the club? Who is his source? How is he ‘in the know’? It’s important because that person needs identifying and firing for breech of confidentiality. |  | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:52 - Apr 9 with 1434 views | Smoresy |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:36 - Apr 9 by Churchman |
Is he on the Board? Does he work for the club? Who is his source? How is he ‘in the know’? It’s important because that person needs identifying and firing for breech of confidentiality. |
He's on this board, I think I'm right in saying. Difficult to know if the club permitted the divulgence of this info, now we're definitely down, to soften the shock factor for fans in two or three months' time, or if it's an unsanctioned leak. What I would say is the article's been published at a point when it makes little material difference to us. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:53 - Apr 9 with 1427 views | DJR |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:36 - Apr 9 by Churchman |
Is he on the Board? Does he work for the club? Who is his source? How is he ‘in the know’? It’s important because that person needs identifying and firing for breech of confidentiality. |
He's a journalist who happens to be a Town fan. [Post edited 9 Apr 21:57]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 22:15 - Apr 9 with 1370 views | TractorWood |
Pretty terrible news. Basically getting a few million profit (after Citeh sell on) for the hottest English talent in years.
Was hoping his profit would cover the seeming overpayment for Philogene, Muric, Clarke, Greaves et al. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 22:25 - Apr 9 with 1343 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:52 - Apr 9 by Smoresy |
He's on this board, I think I'm right in saying. Difficult to know if the club permitted the divulgence of this info, now we're definitely down, to soften the shock factor for fans in two or three months' time, or if it's an unsanctioned leak. What I would say is the article's been published at a point when it makes little material difference to us. |
No he’s not on the Board. Easy to check in the Company records.
As was pointed out, he’s a journalist that just happens to be a Town fan. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 22:46 - Apr 9 with 1304 views | berkstractorboy |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 19:17 - Apr 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Nick Ames is in the know at ITFC. |
ITK on what is probably a highly confidential contract? The club know he's a journalist, just because he's a fan he isn't going to be leaked highly confidential info. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:04 - Apr 9 with 1281 views | Swansea_Blue |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 22:15 - Apr 9 by TractorWood |
Pretty terrible news. Basically getting a few million profit (after Citeh sell on) for the hottest English talent in years.
Was hoping his profit would cover the seeming overpayment for Philogene, Muric, Clarke, Greaves et al. |
If it’s true and he can leave for £30M and we have to give 20% to City, that’s a disaster isn’t it. Someone would be spending £50/60/70 million on him in a purely open market. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:10 - Apr 9 with 1260 views | NeedhamChris |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 22:46 - Apr 9 by berkstractorboy |
ITK on what is probably a highly confidential contract? The club know he's a journalist, just because he's a fan he isn't going to be leaked highly confidential info. |
The emotion of this topic seems to have impacted people's ability to think logically.
It's either the club or Delaps camp that this has come out from.
Who do you think it benefits most for it to be public knowledge that Delap is available for £30m? | |
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| It's a terrible deal.... on 23:20 - Apr 9 with 1224 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| It's a terrible deal.... on 16:49 - Apr 9 by Bloots |
....we are gonna make about £10m on the most valuable asset the club has ever had, at a time when there's more money being paid in transfer fees than ever before.
We have a hopeless record when it comes to selling players under the new ownership. |
I get what you are saying but I'm not actually sure he would go for much more anyway. Solanke only went for 60m last summer didn't he? |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:22 - Apr 9 with 1206 views | Smoresy |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 22:25 - Apr 9 by SuffolkPunchFC |
No he’s not on the Board. Easy to check in the Company records.
As was pointed out, he’s a journalist that just happens to be a Town fan. |
I mean to say he's a good poster on here. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:25 - Apr 9 with 1184 views | berkstractorboy |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:10 - Apr 9 by NeedhamChris |
The emotion of this topic seems to have impacted people's ability to think logically.
It's either the club or Delaps camp that this has come out from.
Who do you think it benefits most for it to be public knowledge that Delap is available for £30m? |
If you are trying to suggest I am not thinking logically then you are wrong.
Contracts usually have non-disclosure clauses to stop players, agents etc talking openly about the details. If the contract didn't have this and therefore allows Delap's side to share details to put their client in the shop window, then MA was very naïve talking last week and saying the details couldn't be shared but we a very well protected.
Now 100% profit may be MA's view we are very well protected and maybe we thought that before we have seen the season Delap has had, but clearly fans won't see that as well protected when we know his true market value is £50M+. So would be foolish of Ashton to use that language only days ago.
Logically I would have said nothing as Chairman/CEO if there was the chance the players camp would start leaking details and then work out a response as if the details are correct in the Guardian article then I don't see what the club gains trying to deny it now. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:27 - Apr 9 with 1180 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 18:02 - Apr 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I think his market value was about right (rising to 20M) as he had not even lit up the Championship but scouts had clearly seen some huge potential.
McKenna had loved him for a long time, we can look back at the line up and comments for Hull at home to know that.
I think he would fetch double that clause on an open market though which is gutting and does not seem we were as protected as we had all thought. [Post edited 9 Apr 18:04]
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Just replied to another one to say that I don't think he would have to be honest - Solanke only went for 55/60m in the summer with a much better record and appearances. I think we'd have been looking at 40 tops. | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:32 - Apr 9 with 1156 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:11 - Apr 9 by Smoresy |
Oof, a blanket release clause wasn't on people's radar, let alone the modest sum! The Athletic's source was total rubbish if this is the case, not to mention Romford's lol. |
The last I heard, there was a first option clause but no release clause. This was a while back but I’ve no reason other than Fabrizio Romano (does he have any direct line into our club?) going against it |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:36 - Apr 9 with 1129 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:27 - Apr 9 by JammyDodgerrr |
Just replied to another one to say that I don't think he would have to be honest - Solanke only went for 55/60m in the summer with a much better record and appearances. I think we'd have been looking at 40 tops. |
This is part of the problem that has led to some very over-the-top reactions by some on the forum. Some fans have been valuing Delap at crazy levels - £80M, £100M, or more.
How realistic are these? But this is what is being used as a reference for a rumoured release clause. I’m sure Delap will go on to command a huge fee in a few years, if he carries on with his current trajectory, and shows he can can score regularly in Europe, or for England, but what is his true valuation right now? | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:37 - Apr 9 with 1118 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Wouldn’t say that on here fella. You’ll be seen as the devil and encouraging legalised murder | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:38 - Apr 9 with 1095 views | Smoresy |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:32 - Apr 9 by The_Romford_Blue |
The last I heard, there was a first option clause but no release clause. This was a while back but I’ve no reason other than Fabrizio Romano (does he have any direct line into our club?) going against it |
I really hope so but the Guardian are very confident in their writing. They're revealing this, rather than believing it to be the case. [Post edited 9 Apr 23:38]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 07:13 - Apr 10 with 881 views | NeedhamChris |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:37 - Apr 9 by The_Romford_Blue |
Wouldn’t say that on here fella. You’ll be seen as the devil and encouraging legalised murder |
Now now, bit of a weird flex on this thread? But just to answer your point - as I don't think people have said that.
Gambling companies, not individual gamblers, are the ones profiteering from horse deaths at the Grand National having monetised the whole thing. Individual gamblers (will include me) might be complicit - but it's the industry that is benefiting from them. Just like when tobacco companies were able to plaster advertising everywhere and influence young people - that was the industry not the individual smokers.
So no, not individual gamblers. Just the industry that profits off the back of questionable animal welfare.
Anyway, back to the Delap thread - not sure the situation is as positive as you made out! | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:04 - Apr 10 with 791 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:48 - Apr 9 by NeedhamChris |
The need to be so overwhelmingly positive is a bit nauseating. |
You should maybe go and support someone like Cambridge United. You'd have much more fun wallowing in misery there. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:11 - Apr 10 with 777 views | NthQldITFC |
All this obsession with the money makes me queasy.
It's a healthy diet of actual football which settles my stomach - we'll have a serious competitive advantage with both assuming we're in the second division next season. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:12 - Apr 10 with 773 views | NthQldITFC |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:04 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You should maybe go and support someone like Cambridge United. You'd have much more fun wallowing in misery there. |
Or indeed at any other East Anglian club. | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:15 - Apr 10 with 761 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 18:15 - Apr 9 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Well I am glad he came to us otherwise we would be on for a rather embarrassing points total. However, with some of the other misses on recruitment last summer, we are basically not making anything on him and got relegated anyway.
In the complexity of deals, you have as much idea as me about whether this clause is what got it over the line for us.
Regardless it's all pointless speculation now anyway. |
It's got nothing to do with complexity of deals, it's common sense. Why on earth would we add this clause other than to get the deal over the line?
People don't throw in clauses making things worse for themselves for a laugh. | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:39 - Apr 10 with 730 views | Juggsy |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:15 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's got nothing to do with complexity of deals, it's common sense. Why on earth would we add this clause other than to get the deal over the line?
People don't throw in clauses making things worse for themselves for a laugh. |
Ashton should have kept his gob shut about being well, well, well protected shouldn't he? The truth probably looks more that we wouldn't have signed Delap without these clauses in place to protect his future and we hadn't signed him then Southampton were lined up to sign him on those terms. If the 30m plus 20% of profits to Man City is true then Ashtons expectation management of fans has been severely lacking there. I love that we had him for a year, but sometimes less words out in public would maybe serve us better.
EDIT: Didn't mean to quote you there TheFlashingSmile, was not a post in answer to yours! [Post edited 10 Apr 9:41]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:46 - Apr 10 with 728 views | blueasfook |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 23:04 - Apr 9 by Swansea_Blue |
If it’s true and he can leave for £30M and we have to give 20% to City, that’s a disaster isn’t it. Someone would be spending £50/60/70 million on him in a purely open market. |
His deal seems a tad short sighted given that we were highly likely to be relegated. But there was a bit of an unknown in how he'd perform and enhance his worth. City obviously didnt see him as a future superstar or they wouldn't have let him go for the reported 15m (plus some add-ons). Would have been nice to make a better profit on him but it is what it is. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 09:52 - Apr 10 with 692 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 22:46 - Apr 9 by berkstractorboy |
ITK on what is probably a highly confidential contract? The club know he's a journalist, just because he's a fan he isn't going to be leaked highly confidential info. |
It wasn't leaked to him by the club, obviously. | | | |
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