| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:44 - Apr 10 with 1457 views | blueasfook |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:43 - Apr 10 by PhilTWTD |
We'll pay 20 per cent of profit to City - I'm assuming as that's almost always the case - so I make that £12m. |
Ok, I was going on the assumption that the "add ons" to the £15m fee came to about £5m so we make £10m before giving City their 20% [Post edited 10 Apr 14:45]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:46 - Apr 10 with 1438 views | positivity |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:44 - Apr 10 by blueasfook |
Ok, I was going on the assumption that the "add ons" to the £15m fee came to about £5m so we make £10m before giving City their 20% [Post edited 10 Apr 14:45]
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so we'll have triggered all the add-ons in a year?
unless the add-ons were heavily weighted towards number of yellow cards and flattening opposing players from the kick-off then i find that hugely unlikely! |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:48 - Apr 10 with 1426 views | blueasfook |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:41 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
No
(Just saving Bloots the time). |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:49 - Apr 10 with 1410 views | PhilTWTD |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:44 - Apr 10 by blueasfook |
Ok, I was going on the assumption that the "add ons" to the £15m fee came to about £5m so we make £10m before giving City their 20% [Post edited 10 Apr 14:45]
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Am guessing add-ons would have been things like staying up, England appearance and probably appearance milestones. Some of those and perhaps goals may have been triggered so could well be that the fee we've paid is somewhere between £15m and £20m.
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:50 - Apr 10 with 1388 views | positivity |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:48 - Apr 10 by blueasfook |
Down voted just to cancel out Positivity's uppie |
down voted to cancel out bloots' inevitable uppie! | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:54 - Apr 10 with 1362 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:48 - Apr 10 by blueasfook |
Down voted just to cancel out Positivity's uppie |
Is your favourite singer Tom Petty? [Post edited 10 Apr 14:55]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:55 - Apr 10 with 1344 views | blueasfook |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:54 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Is your favourite singer Tom Petty? [Post edited 10 Apr 14:55]
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Yeah, I do like a bit of Tom Petty as it happens. [Post edited 10 Apr 14:56]
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| Why've you put 'as well as' in italics? on 15:18 - Apr 10 with 1279 views | Dyland |
| Innit on 11:33 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
The Greek lad didn't want to come. We were after him as well as Delap (we were chasing him long after Delap was already in the door).
You're having a laugh with the Chelsea lad surely? He was injured until the new year... and has broken down again if memory serves. |
This is my point. The club wanted another number nine at least as good as Delap. And to be clear... another number nine as well as Delap.
Point is, and trying to be really crystal clear about this, the plan may may not have been for Delap to be the number one nailed on starter.
We're agreeing you silly sod :) |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 15:20 - Apr 10 with 1270 views | DJR |
Whether or not the original source, the following article posted in the last hour or so states.
"However, sources at Ipswich have since confirmed to BBC Sport that the release clause value decreases by £10m upon relegation."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce8445emg6ro
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| Yes (n/t) on 15:20 - Apr 10 with 1270 views | Bloots |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 14:26 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Is there an echo in here? |
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| Why've you put 'as well as' in italics? on 15:33 - Apr 10 with 1236 views | Herbivore |
| Why've you put 'as well as' in italics? on 15:18 - Apr 10 by Dyland |
This is my point. The club wanted another number nine at least as good as Delap. And to be clear... another number nine as well as Delap.
Point is, and trying to be really crystal clear about this, the plan may may not have been for Delap to be the number one nailed on starter.
We're agreeing you silly sod :) |
Part of me still wonders whether the plan for Delap was to use him mainly on the right as a direct, pacey outlet, with some but less game time up front with a view to developing him into a number 9 more gradually. We sailed to get another striker and with Hirst injured it forced our hand to put all of our eggs in the Delap up front basket. We signed Ogbene quite late and I wonder if that was because we couldn't get that striker over the line so got an extra bod on the right and went with Delap being solely a specialist number 9. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 15:33 - Apr 10 with 1220 views | blueasfook |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 11:57 - Apr 10 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Yes, I agree it's far from certain that we could have negotiated something along the lines of the second option - to some extent it depends on how strong our hand was in the negotiations, and how good the club's poker-face is.
My point all along is that there is a possible alternative scenario, and we can't know the truth of it without have the detail of the full contract. |
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| Why've you put 'as well as' in italics? on 15:37 - Apr 10 with 1172 views | DJR |
| Why've you put 'as well as' in italics? on 15:18 - Apr 10 by Dyland |
This is my point. The club wanted another number nine at least as good as Delap. And to be clear... another number nine as well as Delap.
Point is, and trying to be really crystal clear about this, the plan may may not have been for Delap to be the number one nailed on starter.
We're agreeing you silly sod :) |
I'm sure McKenna said in the autumn that both Delap and Hutchinson had been played much more than had been intended for players of their young age. [Post edited 10 Apr 15:38]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:42 - Apr 10 with 1079 views | itfcsuth |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 11:04 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Plenty are.
I've seen several say "pants pulled down". |
I would be fascinated to understand of letting one of the countries brightest number 9’s leave for just an £8m-£10m profit, with no power to do anything about it can be seen as good business by the club.
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:44 - Apr 10 with 1055 views | Herbivore |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:42 - Apr 10 by itfcsuth |
I would be fascinated to understand of letting one of the countries brightest number 9’s leave for just an £8m-£10m profit, with no power to do anything about it can be seen as good business by the club.
It’s an absolute stinker. |
But he wasn't one of the country's brightest number 9s when we signed him and that was when the clause was agreed. It's not like we agreed to this clause a couple of weeks ago. | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:47 - Apr 10 with 1031 views | positivity |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:44 - Apr 10 by Herbivore |
But he wasn't one of the country's brightest number 9s when we signed him and that was when the clause was agreed. It's not like we agreed to this clause a couple of weeks ago. |
if soton had got him instead, we'd get the usual moaners moaning that we'd let "one of the one of the country's brightest number 9s" go and got zero profit and missed out on several goals! [Post edited 10 Apr 18:16]
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:24 - Apr 10 with 968 views | Swailsey |
BBC reporting it as true, with sources from Ipswich confirming. Nick in the know again! |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:30 - Apr 10 with 941 views | RadioOrwell |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:42 - Apr 10 by itfcsuth |
I would be fascinated to understand of letting one of the countries brightest number 9’s leave for just an £8m-£10m profit, with no power to do anything about it can be seen as good business by the club.
It’s an absolute stinker. |
Because that's what we had to agree to in order to get him in the first place.
We had him for a year. He scored most of our goals.
We will make several million pounds from the whole thing.
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:33 - Apr 10 with 927 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:42 - Apr 10 by itfcsuth |
I would be fascinated to understand of letting one of the countries brightest number 9’s leave for just an £8m-£10m profit, with no power to do anything about it can be seen as good business by the club.
It’s an absolute stinker. |
Have you missed all the debate on this, or are you just deciding to ignore all the context? | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:37 - Apr 10 with 901 views | itfcsuth |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 16:44 - Apr 10 by Herbivore |
But he wasn't one of the country's brightest number 9s when we signed him and that was when the clause was agreed. It's not like we agreed to this clause a couple of weeks ago. |
He was an England u21 international, as well playing through multiple age groups, as well as being a top young talent out of a top academy - so whilst not at the heights he’s at now, I would imagine the club thought his ceiling was very very high.
It’s poor business, not matter what way you want to spin it. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:38 - Apr 10 with 890 views | itfcsuth |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:33 - Apr 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Have you missed all the debate on this, or are you just deciding to ignore all the context? |
Not read the entire thread no - too long for me to go through it all.
Was just responding to the specific post you referred to myself. | | | |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:38 - Apr 10 with 887 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:37 - Apr 10 by itfcsuth |
He was an England u21 international, as well playing through multiple age groups, as well as being a top young talent out of a top academy - so whilst not at the heights he’s at now, I would imagine the club thought his ceiling was very very high.
It’s poor business, not matter what way you want to spin it. |
So you'd rather we let him go to Southampton then? | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:40 - Apr 10 with 876 views | bluelagos |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 12:03 - Apr 10 by PhilTWTD |
I doubt Man City were privy to that aspect of the deal, would have been between Town and the player. |
I don't know. If you agree with the buying club that you will get 20% of any profit - then the release clause is kind of an important factor - in that it limits the amount you could earn from any future sale.
Whilst the release clause is between Ipswich and Delap - surely it would need to be agreed by City too as part of their sale to Ipswich?
*I know nothing, have no insighr, just seems really strange if City could effectively be shafted in that way. |  |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:56 - Apr 10 with 844 views | Herbivore |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:37 - Apr 10 by itfcsuth |
He was an England u21 international, as well playing through multiple age groups, as well as being a top young talent out of a top academy - so whilst not at the heights he’s at now, I would imagine the club thought his ceiling was very very high.
It’s poor business, not matter what way you want to spin it. |
He'd had decent but not exceptional loan spells in the Championship and at 21, City didn't see him kicking on to make it there. So he was far from being the player he is now and certainly wasn't approaching your description of him as some hot property number 9. There's a reason us and Saints were the two sides in for him. It's disappointing and frustrating that we won't get his full market value but it's pure hindsight bias to attribute that to really poor business on our part rather than it being just how circumstances have played out. | |
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| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 21:08 - Apr 10 with 676 views | berkstractorboy |
| 30m release clause for Delap when we go down on 17:37 - Apr 10 by itfcsuth |
He was an England u21 international, as well playing through multiple age groups, as well as being a top young talent out of a top academy - so whilst not at the heights he’s at now, I would imagine the club thought his ceiling was very very high.
It’s poor business, not matter what way you want to spin it. |
Would you consider not signing him at all to be poorer business?
Very good chance we had no negotiation in the deal based on other interest so take him on the terms offered or not all at.
It's only poor business if once given all the facts we failed to negotiate better terms on release clauses etc if the opportunity was there. Rather than try to be negative about it all why not choose to believe just maybe the club did everything it could to get the best deal and actually making a 100% profit in a year it's not actually a 'stinking' piece of business. | | | |
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