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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... 19:02 - Jun 12 with 2274 viewsDubtractor

But bloody hell. I know that a lot of this is just distraction from the real bad stuff, but I honestly can't fathom how half of American voters thought voting for him was a good idea.

Trump: "Russia fought with us in WWII and everybody hates them. And Germany and Japan, they're fine — some day somebody will explain that...Everybody hates Russia and they love Germany and Japan...It's a strange world."

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:18 - Jun 12 with 2038 viewsChurchman

I’m not sure history is his strongest subject.

Trump’s take is bizarre but no surprise. Still, as best mates with fellow dictator Vlad and a regime he clearly admires, I guess it’s only natural to come out with drivel like that. It’s easy to explain why Russia is seen as an enemy. Its all there. The past and the present. But if you are Trump and never wrong you don’t need to read or listen because you have the answer.
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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:30 - Jun 12 with 1952 viewsMeadowlark

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:18 - Jun 12 by Churchman

I’m not sure history is his strongest subject.

Trump’s take is bizarre but no surprise. Still, as best mates with fellow dictator Vlad and a regime he clearly admires, I guess it’s only natural to come out with drivel like that. It’s easy to explain why Russia is seen as an enemy. Its all there. The past and the present. But if you are Trump and never wrong you don’t need to read or listen because you have the answer.


Which subject is his strongest?
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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:35 - Jun 12 with 1928 viewsbluejacko

Trouble is it is explained to him but he doesn’t take anything in does he? He agrees with the person in front of him and then reverts to his own little world once they have gone!
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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:39 - Jun 12 with 1900 viewsChurchman

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:30 - Jun 12 by Meadowlark

Which subject is his strongest?


The McDonalds menu.
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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:03 - Jun 12 with 1783 viewsdavblue

think its been much worse in this term than his last term

The Covid stuff was quite funny in what he was saying even if the whole thing was very serious.

The next 3.5 years can't finish in his term quick enough. Lets hope they dont stay in power.
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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:05 - Jun 12 with 1762 viewsdavblue

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:39 - Jun 12 by Churchman

The McDonalds menu.


Think the Happy Meal is his intellect level and even that is being very generous.
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Mentioning Biden at every possible moment (n/t) on 20:17 - Jun 12 with 1703 viewsWickhamsLeftBoot

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 19:30 - Jun 12 by Meadowlark

Which subject is his strongest?


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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:18 - Jun 12 with 1694 viewsBigalhunter

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:05 - Jun 12 by davblue

Think the Happy Meal is his intellect level and even that is being very generous.


Probably eats the crayons and rubs his fries all over the colouring book.

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:31 - Jun 12 with 1620 viewsRyorry

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:33 - Jun 12 with 1623 viewsMullet

It’s weird how right after Ku Klux Ketamine calls him a nonce on his platform he instigates civil unrest and abuses his powers etc to do so. Almost like he’s trying to put as many headlines between him and that as quickly as possible.

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 21:08 - Jun 12 with 1466 viewsSwansea_Blue

I thought it was all distraction, but I don’t think it is. He’s been telling everyone what he plans to do, but we’ve not taken him seriously because it sounds so batsh*t crazy. But now he’s started doing it. He’s probably deadly serious here.

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 22:37 - Jun 12 with 1261 viewsreusersfreekicks

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 21:08 - Jun 12 by Swansea_Blue

I thought it was all distraction, but I don’t think it is. He’s been telling everyone what he plans to do, but we’ve not taken him seriously because it sounds so batsh*t crazy. But now he’s started doing it. He’s probably deadly serious here.


He is unhinged with dark forces behind him.
To think they spread around all that rubbish re Democrats and the deep state.
Including Farage his UK puppet
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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 22:43 - Jun 12 with 1237 viewsElderGrizzly

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:03 - Jun 12 by davblue

think its been much worse in this term than his last term

The Covid stuff was quite funny in what he was saying even if the whole thing was very serious.

The next 3.5 years can't finish in his term quick enough. Lets hope they dont stay in power.


First time round, he still had ‘normal’ Republicans around him.

This time, he simply has yes men/women who have seen they can do literally anything and keep jobs and avoid jail.
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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 00:24 - Jun 13 with 1087 viewsRyorry

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 22:43 - Jun 12 by ElderGrizzly

First time round, he still had ‘normal’ Republicans around him.

This time, he simply has yes men/women who have seen they can do literally anything and keep jobs and avoid jail.


That, and his refusal to take the climate change and environment crises seriously, is giving a very ’last days of the Roman Empire’ feel to the States right now.

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 02:34 - Jun 13 with 959 viewsKropotkin123

We're in trouble when we he gets to 1814...

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He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 08:59 - Jun 13 with 705 viewsunstableblue

I don’t think anyone in their wildest dreams predicted just how damaging and dangerous this Trump administration - reign? - would be.

[and the UK is blindly stumbling along a path to a Trump lite future]

GOP, his sycophantic ‘cabinet’ and large swathes of the media are not providing the checks and balances on his acts and lies that are so desperately needed. He’s now acting with impunity.

He is lying constantly - and not just the little ones, like “eggs are down 400%” (which would mean shops paid you to take the carton out of store)… but whoppers like “the LA police chief agreed that the city would have burnt to the ground without the national guard”… in fact he said no such thing, and actually thought that it would be soon under control, was isolated and they were levels of escalation away from the National Guard (e.g. bringing in sheriffs and resources from wider California counties)

But to the point of the thread…. His lies on the campaign trail about how he would quickly bring peace to Gaza and Palestine, AND how he would reduce the crazily escalating spending deficit/debt mountain - WERE MASSIVE PORKERS.

Let’s start with the debt and the interest payments - his government has spent more than Biden in the same period in 23 and 24, by $154bn, his BIG beautiful bill which is a blatant tax give back to the wealthy is going to further increase that deficit - in some predictions by a huge amount. DOGE is a disaster - with some real long term damaging impacts (Farage is trying it in the UK?!)

But again getting back to the point - his clear position on Russia and Israel was always going to lengthen and escalate these conflicts. He’s a Kremlin patsy, and his views on Gaza are staggeringly ill judged. Israel has dropped 70,000 tons of bombs on Gaza Strip since last October, exceeding World War II bombings in Dresden, Hamburg, London combined.

In a side comment what is alarming a lot of US commentators was his recent speech at a US fort (which are being renamed to celebrate slave owning confederate heroes) serving personnel - who are meant to be non political - whooped and cheered at some far out Trump speak. That’s dangerous.

But let me end by saying Trump has huge support the ICE and immigration action, his stance on LA, DOGE, foreign policy. HUGE support. And I think people in the UK lose sight of this.

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He’s the master of ‘flooding the zone’ (n/t) on 09:00 - Jun 13 with 689 viewsunstableblue

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 20:33 - Jun 12 by Mullet

It’s weird how right after Ku Klux Ketamine calls him a nonce on his platform he instigates civil unrest and abuses his powers etc to do so. Almost like he’s trying to put as many headlines between him and that as quickly as possible.



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He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 09:22 - Jun 13 with 616 viewsRyorry

He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 08:59 - Jun 13 by unstableblue

I don’t think anyone in their wildest dreams predicted just how damaging and dangerous this Trump administration - reign? - would be.

[and the UK is blindly stumbling along a path to a Trump lite future]

GOP, his sycophantic ‘cabinet’ and large swathes of the media are not providing the checks and balances on his acts and lies that are so desperately needed. He’s now acting with impunity.

He is lying constantly - and not just the little ones, like “eggs are down 400%” (which would mean shops paid you to take the carton out of store)… but whoppers like “the LA police chief agreed that the city would have burnt to the ground without the national guard”… in fact he said no such thing, and actually thought that it would be soon under control, was isolated and they were levels of escalation away from the National Guard (e.g. bringing in sheriffs and resources from wider California counties)

But to the point of the thread…. His lies on the campaign trail about how he would quickly bring peace to Gaza and Palestine, AND how he would reduce the crazily escalating spending deficit/debt mountain - WERE MASSIVE PORKERS.

Let’s start with the debt and the interest payments - his government has spent more than Biden in the same period in 23 and 24, by $154bn, his BIG beautiful bill which is a blatant tax give back to the wealthy is going to further increase that deficit - in some predictions by a huge amount. DOGE is a disaster - with some real long term damaging impacts (Farage is trying it in the UK?!)

But again getting back to the point - his clear position on Russia and Israel was always going to lengthen and escalate these conflicts. He’s a Kremlin patsy, and his views on Gaza are staggeringly ill judged. Israel has dropped 70,000 tons of bombs on Gaza Strip since last October, exceeding World War II bombings in Dresden, Hamburg, London combined.

In a side comment what is alarming a lot of US commentators was his recent speech at a US fort (which are being renamed to celebrate slave owning confederate heroes) serving personnel - who are meant to be non political - whooped and cheered at some far out Trump speak. That’s dangerous.

But let me end by saying Trump has huge support the ICE and immigration action, his stance on LA, DOGE, foreign policy. HUGE support. And I think people in the UK lose sight of this.


“and the UK is blindly stumbling along a path to a Trump lite future”

Starmer and Reeves justifiably have their critics, including me, but that’s ridiculous.

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He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 09:33 - Jun 13 with 581 viewspointofblue

He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 09:22 - Jun 13 by Ryorry

“and the UK is blindly stumbling along a path to a Trump lite future”

Starmer and Reeves justifiably have their critics, including me, but that’s ridiculous.


I think it's reference to the rise of Farage and Reform, rather than the current government.

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 09:35 - Jun 13 with 581 viewsSteve_M

I've just watched the video of FBI agents arresting a US Senator for the crime of trying to ask questions of dog-killer and incompetent Kristy Noem.

I think we can call it fascism now.

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He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 09:44 - Jun 13 with 554 viewsiamatractorboy

He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 08:59 - Jun 13 by unstableblue

I don’t think anyone in their wildest dreams predicted just how damaging and dangerous this Trump administration - reign? - would be.

[and the UK is blindly stumbling along a path to a Trump lite future]

GOP, his sycophantic ‘cabinet’ and large swathes of the media are not providing the checks and balances on his acts and lies that are so desperately needed. He’s now acting with impunity.

He is lying constantly - and not just the little ones, like “eggs are down 400%” (which would mean shops paid you to take the carton out of store)… but whoppers like “the LA police chief agreed that the city would have burnt to the ground without the national guard”… in fact he said no such thing, and actually thought that it would be soon under control, was isolated and they were levels of escalation away from the National Guard (e.g. bringing in sheriffs and resources from wider California counties)

But to the point of the thread…. His lies on the campaign trail about how he would quickly bring peace to Gaza and Palestine, AND how he would reduce the crazily escalating spending deficit/debt mountain - WERE MASSIVE PORKERS.

Let’s start with the debt and the interest payments - his government has spent more than Biden in the same period in 23 and 24, by $154bn, his BIG beautiful bill which is a blatant tax give back to the wealthy is going to further increase that deficit - in some predictions by a huge amount. DOGE is a disaster - with some real long term damaging impacts (Farage is trying it in the UK?!)

But again getting back to the point - his clear position on Russia and Israel was always going to lengthen and escalate these conflicts. He’s a Kremlin patsy, and his views on Gaza are staggeringly ill judged. Israel has dropped 70,000 tons of bombs on Gaza Strip since last October, exceeding World War II bombings in Dresden, Hamburg, London combined.

In a side comment what is alarming a lot of US commentators was his recent speech at a US fort (which are being renamed to celebrate slave owning confederate heroes) serving personnel - who are meant to be non political - whooped and cheered at some far out Trump speak. That’s dangerous.

But let me end by saying Trump has huge support the ICE and immigration action, his stance on LA, DOGE, foreign policy. HUGE support. And I think people in the UK lose sight of this.


I think quite a few people did say it would be this bad, perhaps without all the specifics, but were accused of scaremongering (I'm not talking about this board, just generally).
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He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 09:49 - Jun 13 with 523 viewsunstableblue

He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 09:22 - Jun 13 by Ryorry

“and the UK is blindly stumbling along a path to a Trump lite future”

Starmer and Reeves justifiably have their critics, including me, but that’s ridiculous.


Sorry Ryorry… should have been clearer

I meant at the next general election an unfit for purpose Reform, harder right at their core than they present could come into power.

Tories probably oversaw one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen, Badneoch is poor, and they are imploding.

Starmer and Labour are hated, disproportionately, and have been given a hospital pass.

Labour and Reform are both 6/4 to win the next election.

As migrants flood across the channel, many many of them with appalling reasons why they are making the arduous trip. At levels our society struggles to accommodate and integrate. Farage gets his rallying cry, despite his Brexit drive being a factor in our immigration mess.

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 09:50 - Jun 13 with 523 viewsBent_double

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 09:35 - Jun 13 by Steve_M

I've just watched the video of FBI agents arresting a US Senator for the crime of trying to ask questions of dog-killer and incompetent Kristy Noem.

I think we can call it fascism now.


I saw that on Newsnight yesterday. Very worrying.

The BBC presenter was trying to make a point that it was a press conference, and perhaps the Senator was doing it for the publicity, but that's no excuse for how the FBI officers pushed him out of the room into a corridor, forcing him onto the ground and handcuffing him.

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I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 10:14 - Jun 13 with 460 viewsElderGrizzly

I should no longer be shocked by what Trump says...... on 09:50 - Jun 13 by Bent_double

I saw that on Newsnight yesterday. Very worrying.

The BBC presenter was trying to make a point that it was a press conference, and perhaps the Senator was doing it for the publicity, but that's no excuse for how the FBI officers pushed him out of the room into a corridor, forcing him onto the ground and handcuffing him.


It was clearly staged for maximum effect from both sides.

The more worrying quote of that news conference was Noem saying the federal Government were going to “liberate Los Angeles” from their Democratic leadership

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He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 10:22 - Jun 13 with 422 viewsRyorry

He’s now completely without checks and balances - some recent lying examples on 09:49 - Jun 13 by unstableblue

Sorry Ryorry… should have been clearer

I meant at the next general election an unfit for purpose Reform, harder right at their core than they present could come into power.

Tories probably oversaw one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen, Badneoch is poor, and they are imploding.

Starmer and Labour are hated, disproportionately, and have been given a hospital pass.

Labour and Reform are both 6/4 to win the next election.

As migrants flood across the channel, many many of them with appalling reasons why they are making the arduous trip. At levels our society struggles to accommodate and integrate. Farage gets his rallying cry, despite his Brexit drive being a factor in our immigration mess.


Ah, fair enough 👍

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