| Meat is meat isn’t it? 10:39 - Jul 22 with 10401 views | SitfcB |
Don’t get this argument.
What’s all the fuss about? |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:15 - Jul 22 with 1648 views | Herbivore |
Quick nod to Sitters for a solid start on a clear 10 pager attempt. |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:16 - Jul 22 with 1638 views | blueasfook |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 12:05 - Jul 22 by Illinoisblue |
Have we signed a striker yet? |
Now we are looking in the older market, I have heard we are in talks with Ian Rush. |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:33 - Jul 22 with 1567 views | DJR |
A couple of observations.
1. There are around 1000 KFC restaurants in the UK and Ireland, and around 200 in the UK currently serve halal food.
2. Around 80 Nando's restaurants in the UK serve 100% halal chicken. Their website explains it thus.
"In these restaurants, we only serve chicken that's certified halal. And as we don’t handle any pork ingredients, there’s no chance of cross-contamination
It’s also important that the chickens we use for our halal products get the same high standard of welfare as the rest of our chickens. Our UK suppliers follow the Red Tractor Farm Assurance Standards. And we’ve partnered with organisations like Compassion in World Farming to make sure we continue to improve the wellbeing of all our animals.
Why do we serve halal chicken?
We want to make sure everyone can have our PERi-PERi chicken. So we'll decide if a restaurant will serve halal chicken based on things like:
- Local population
- Future openings in the area
- Distance to the nearest halal Nando's" [Post edited 22 Jul 2025 13:34]
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 14:20 - Jul 22 with 1487 views | eireblue |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:14 - Jul 22 by Herbivore |
"No animal should be subject to death, for human purposes" would have been the correct sentence to go with. The stuff around "animal welfare" is noise to make meat eaters feel better about themselves. Factory farms in the UK are bleak despite how much we crow about our welfare standards, even what constitutes free range isn't great, certainly not much of an existence for the animals. Animals getting stunned is not all that pleasant either, the whole slaughter process - whether it's done "better" or not - is grim. If people really care about animal welfare, don't eat meat, dairy, or eggs. |
Yeah, you really would like ITFC to come up with a statement along the lines of,
In considering all the different religious and cultural practices with respect to eating, we have come up with a menu that all people can eat. Enjoy Planet Blue Plant Based Picnic Baskets |  | | |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 15:24 - Jul 22 with 1408 views | BlueBadger |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:15 - Jul 22 by Herbivore |
Quick nod to Sitters for a solid start on a clear 10 pager attempt. |
Fair play to the lad, there's very few ten-pagers that don't see the thread starter hit with a cavalcade of downies. |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 15:29 - Jul 22 with 1391 views | Ryorry |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 14:20 - Jul 22 by eireblue |
Yeah, you really would like ITFC to come up with a statement along the lines of,
In considering all the different religious and cultural practices with respect to eating, we have come up with a menu that all people can eat. Enjoy Planet Blue Plant Based Picnic Baskets |
How many veggie or vegan options are available at PR on matchdays?
People could simply choose not to eat meat there, not gonna kill them to go without it for 3 hours is it ...
ITFC/catering partners would soon get fed up with having to take the meat home and/or binning it. |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 15:42 - Jul 22 with 1356 views | Benters |
Do they still do the pie n a pint deal ? |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 15:52 - Jul 22 with 1342 views | Benters |
I must admit I can’t bare to walk through the farm yard in Benters thinking I will be munching on the animals later. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 15:54 - Jul 22 with 1329 views | Benters |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:16 - Jul 22 by blueasfook |
Now we are looking in the older market, I have heard we are in talks with Ian Rush. |
Trevor Francis that £1m doesn’t seem a huge amount now. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 15:58 - Jul 22 with 1320 views | SitfcB |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:15 - Jul 22 by Herbivore |
Quick nod to Sitters for a solid start on a clear 10 pager attempt. |
I’ve had a good summer. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 16:24 - Jul 22 with 1281 views | Mullet |
It’s just red meat for racists and the thick - he’s a complete sh1tstirring bigot that fella. There’s not a nice way to slaughter an animal and halal is no worse than other methods. I notice these people never worry about kosher slaughter either. |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 16:33 - Jul 22 with 1260 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 11:35 - Jul 22 by EEJB |
Kosher/Shechita meat is usually labelled as such.
Surely the issue here is whether people (particularly those that cannot eat it) are told that it is Halal.
This story isn't about Kosher food, if it was being served at the club without people knowing then the issue would be the same. |
I can’t remember ever being told the provenance of any meat products at a football ground. Surely under whatever approach an animal is slaughtered there will be some religious group who can’t eat it. Yet it only ever seems to crop up as a problem when it’s halal, for obvious reasons. |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 16:45 - Jul 22 with 1238 views | DJR |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 16:33 - Jul 22 by Swansea_Blue |
I can’t remember ever being told the provenance of any meat products at a football ground. Surely under whatever approach an animal is slaughtered there will be some religious group who can’t eat it. Yet it only ever seems to crop up as a problem when it’s halal, for obvious reasons. |
I worked for a predominantly Jewish firm of solicitors and remember being told that observant Jews wouldn't eat even in a kosher restaurant.
From recollection, it was something to do with not be able to trust that things were done properly. [Post edited 22 Jul 2025 16:56]
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 18:25 - Jul 22 with 1166 views | Herbivore |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 15:52 - Jul 22 by Benters |
I must admit I can’t bare to walk through the farm yard in Benters thinking I will be munching on the animals later. |
Sounds like you should go vegan, mate. Once the cognitive dissonance gets harder to maintain, it's a slippery slope to fully embracing tofu. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 18:34 - Jul 22 with 1145 views | tcblue |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 12:01 - Jul 22 by keighleyblue |
what about fish? |
Dreadful signing the first time, doubt he'd do a job for us nowadays |  | | |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 19:05 - Jul 22 with 1103 views | joepublic |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 13:16 - Jul 22 by blueasfook |
Now we are looking in the older market, I have heard we are in talks with Ian Rush. |
Patrik Burger wants in too! |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 19:08 - Jul 22 with 1101 views | Trequartista |
Is this another Israel v Hamas thread but using meat production as a proxy? Clever stuff. |  |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 19:28 - Jul 22 with 1086 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 19:08 - Jul 22 by Trequartista |
Is this another Israel v Hamas thread but using meat production as a proxy? Clever stuff. |
I have to say, irrespective of the likely motivations of some people commenting / complaining, it is egregious that in 2025, we have laws that require basic animal welfare standards to defer to religous doctrines.
There is no logical excuse for ritual slaughter of the type described by the RSPCA in the article without (at the very least) stunning. We should not be allowing religions to call their own shots on this, anymore than they should call their own shots on child welfare protection (im looking at you CofE) or, come to that, genital mutilation of children. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 23:12 - Jul 22 with 995 views | billythefish |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 11:10 - Jul 22 by NthQldITFC |
I don't know much about Halal, but I think the basic principle is that the animal is treated better than non-Halal meat.
How anyone can have a problem with that, I have absolutely no idea. |
You have just demonstrated you know nothing about halal slaughter. It is a barbaric way of slaughtering an animal without firth stunning it to remove the risk of pain and distress. | | | |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 23:21 - Jul 22 with 978 views | billythefish |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 11:25 - Jul 22 by Zx1988 |
Funny how the anti-Halal lot don't seem to have a problem with Kosher/Shechita meat... |
Where are you reading that? I have a problem with all non stunned slaughter, hence why we have animal welfare laws in this civilised country. All non stunned slaughter should be banned in the UK. | | | |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 23:22 - Jul 22 with 975 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 23:12 - Jul 22 by billythefish |
You have just demonstrated you know nothing about halal slaughter. It is a barbaric way of slaughtering an animal without firth stunning it to remove the risk of pain and distress. |
Apart from the fact that, as has been set out clearly in this thread, a large proportion of halal meat in this country is in fact stunned. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 23:36 - Jul 22 with 961 views | Herbivore |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 23:12 - Jul 22 by billythefish |
You have just demonstrated you know nothing about halal slaughter. It is a barbaric way of slaughtering an animal without firth stunning it to remove the risk of pain and distress. |
Slaughtering animals because they're tasty is barbaric full stop. Feels like the bed wetting over stunning is a weird form of virtue signalling, but anyhow, as has been pointed out nearly 90% of halal slaughtered animals have been stunned. In your mind at least, that should make things better. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 00:30 - Jul 23 with 910 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 23:12 - Jul 22 by billythefish |
You have just demonstrated you know nothing about halal slaughter. It is a barbaric way of slaughtering an animal without firth stunning it to remove the risk of pain and distress. |
In one of the more bizarre twists of my life, I have recently found myself being appointed as a director of an abattoir that produces halal meat, and I can assure you that this is absolute nonsense. All animals that go through the abattoir are stunned prior to slaughter. |  | | |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 06:27 - Jul 23 with 837 views | Benters |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 18:25 - Jul 22 by Herbivore |
Sounds like you should go vegan, mate. Once the cognitive dissonance gets harder to maintain, it's a slippery slope to fully embracing tofu. |
I actually ate some Quorn sausages and scotch eggs the other week,the sausages were ok but the scotch eggs not so nice.
My Nephew when he got married had a full veggie meal it was rather nice tbh. | |
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| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 07:04 - Jul 23 with 1442 views | MYLEFTFOOT |
| Meat is meat isn’t it? on 12:19 - Jul 22 by Nutkins_Return |
You can bet your life this guy writing to Ipswich has another agenda.
I do think though if we are going to kill and eat animals there has to be one way and that is the most humane way (if 2 equally humane ways fine). And religions can say any religious words beforehand no problem at all but anything that causes suffering that isn't required to an animal in that name of religion is completely unacceptable and shame on anyone doing it. |
Humane definition:
'Having or showing compassion or benevolence'.
Given the above, how do you kill any healthy young animal humanely that doesn't want to die? There's not a single ounce of compassion or benevolence involved so it's impossible.
People getting outraged because the animal isn't getting needlessly killed in the manner that THEY want it to (behind inaccessible and heavily guarded walls) is laughable.
There's a reason that school kids have days out at farms and not slaughterhouses.
Humane. It's a term used entirely for humans to feel better about what they do to innocent, sentient baby animals just for a sandwich or whatever. Cognitive dissonance is so strong in most.
Put yourself in the victim's place and you'll view things entirely differently. How about choosing the 'extreme' option of just not eating animals at all? | | | |
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