| So HMRC made their staff 15:29 - Aug 7 with 2348 views | onceablue |
Attend a Seminar during Working Hours named ‘The Guilt of being British’
WTF
Ok we had an Empire but didn’t the Spanish, French, Dutch, German also conquer or invade the World whichever you see fit
These other Countries still seem proud of their Country and Nationality and that is rich coming from the Germans bearing in mind dear old Mr Hitler and his antics. |  | | |  |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:31 - Aug 7 with 1879 views | bartyg |
Please don't bring daily mail ragebait here we don't need it right now |  | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:37 - Aug 7 with 1784 views | blueasfook |
People were handwringing on here yesterday because America dropped an atomic bomb on Japan 80 years ago. Seems we should even be doing second hand guilt now. |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:37 - Aug 7 with 1788 views | GeoffSentence |
An HMRC spokesman said: “Events by staff networks should not be taken as reflecting the views of HMRC.
"An event like this would only be attended by around 0.1 per cent of staff,
So, you know, not quite how you presented it |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:42 - Aug 7 with 1683 views | J2BLUE |
I'm far from woke but if you dig a little deeper this is so much more nuanced.
From the Daily Mail:
It was billed as 'a powerful, interactive, and reflective listening circle exploring the emotional complexity of being South Asian and British', covering topics including 'the emotional weight of colonial history' as part of the taxman's commitment to diversity, equality and inclusion.
According to a post published on the HMRC's intranet, the session promised to 'delve into themes of guilt, pride, and identity, offering space for personal stories and cultural insights'.
Workers were told participants would explore 'the duality of identity - balancing heritage and belonging', and the 'emotional weight of colonial history and inherited trauma'.
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Doesn't that sound much more like people feeling guilty FOR feeling British despite what Britain has done in the past to various countries around the world? A bit more like reassuring people that it's ok to feel British and not to feel ashamed or like they are betraying their heritage? |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:45 - Aug 7 with 1646 views | MattinLondon |
HRMC didn’t make any of their staff attend that seminar - it was intended to be a voluntary event in which the intention was to uncover the “barriers, bias and expectations” faced by South Asian women’.
You can argue that the title was misguided but the voluntary seminar was simply trying to make some feel more welcoming.
Think the point of it has been misrepresented with some choosing to get angry by not really understanding (or actually take a minute or two by reading up on it) its aims - guess it’s easier to get angry or to be a troll than actually fully understand stuff. It’s ok for an irrelevant troll to think that for the leader of the opposition to go fulll-farage then it is quite sad.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/hmrc-nonsense-guilt-being-british-sem |  | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:45 - Aug 7 with 1625 views | bsw72 |
Ok, that was the title, what was the content? Do you have any more details not lifted from the right leaning media? |  | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:46 - Aug 7 with 1619 views | Zx1988 |
Did the Telegraph/Express/Daily Heil article you got this from detail the content of the seminar? Or did they just lean upon the lurid title in order to generate outrage?
Looking at the wider details, it actually seems rather interesting. It appears to have focused on the 'emotional complexity of being South Asian and British'.
Given the less-than-positive history of British Colonialism in that particular corner of the globe, I'd have been very interested to have sat in on the session. | |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:47 - Aug 7 with 1602 views | nrb1985 |
Get arrested just for being British nowadays. | | | |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:50 - Aug 7 with 1560 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
The OP uses headlines like Tommy Robinson uses fake passports! |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:50 - Aug 7 with 1554 views | NedPlimpton |
Can't believe I've not learnt my lesson and am choosing to respond to your trolling but having worked for the civil service I can at least call out your the things in here that will be BS
"HMRC made their staff attend" - no they didn't. It was a seminar being hosted by a network of colleagues within HMRC. Attendance will have not been mandatory in any way shape or form
"these other countries still seem proud" - Netherlands have apologised for it's historical role in slavery as have Denmark and France. A lot of countries are still struggling to balance national pride with historical regret. We're not unique and don't pretend that we are |  | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:53 - Aug 7 with 1495 views | soupytwist |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:50 - Aug 7 by NedPlimpton |
Can't believe I've not learnt my lesson and am choosing to respond to your trolling but having worked for the civil service I can at least call out your the things in here that will be BS
"HMRC made their staff attend" - no they didn't. It was a seminar being hosted by a network of colleagues within HMRC. Attendance will have not been mandatory in any way shape or form
"these other countries still seem proud" - Netherlands have apologised for it's historical role in slavery as have Denmark and France. A lot of countries are still struggling to balance national pride with historical regret. We're not unique and don't pretend that we are |
For example, Belgium - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_apologies_to_the_Congo |  | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:54 - Aug 7 with 1475 views | Herbivore |
If you weren't such a berk, I'd feel embarrassed for you. |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:54 - Aug 7 with 1465 views | baxterbasics |
Boooo. Down with this sort of thing. |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:55 - Aug 7 with 1451 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:50 - Aug 7 by NedPlimpton |
Can't believe I've not learnt my lesson and am choosing to respond to your trolling but having worked for the civil service I can at least call out your the things in here that will be BS
"HMRC made their staff attend" - no they didn't. It was a seminar being hosted by a network of colleagues within HMRC. Attendance will have not been mandatory in any way shape or form
"these other countries still seem proud" - Netherlands have apologised for it's historical role in slavery as have Denmark and France. A lot of countries are still struggling to balance national pride with historical regret. We're not unique and don't pretend that we are |
I, for one, am grateful for Onceablue's repetitions of the right-wing clickbait headlines on here. It gives me a chance to be prepared for when those I knw who have swallowed them whole ask me if I have heard about them and I can point out the exageration and misleading content without having to go away and research it for myself.
Thank you those who have responded with the explantions that lie behind the rhetoric. |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:56 - Aug 7 with 1441 views | noggin |
I'm watching Sky News and they are still calling asylum seekers, "illegal"
Is it any wonder the 'non critical' thinkers are getting so angry. The MSM is a cesspit of misinformation and the far right are happy to whip up hatred. |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 15:56 - Aug 7 with 1438 views | Zx1988 |
We had a very interesting experience in Belgium the other year.
We visited Bruges and went to the chocolate museum there. Lots and lots of content about the discovery of chocolate, its history, its uses etc., Absolutely zip on how it ended up in Belgium and how Belgium ended up becoming a world leader on the chocolate scene.
And the less said about chocolate hands the better... | |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 16:00 - Aug 7 with 1384 views | Mullet |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:56 - Aug 7 by Zx1988 |
We had a very interesting experience in Belgium the other year.
We visited Bruges and went to the chocolate museum there. Lots and lots of content about the discovery of chocolate, its history, its uses etc., Absolutely zip on how it ended up in Belgium and how Belgium ended up becoming a world leader on the chocolate scene.
And the less said about chocolate hands the better... |
Old leopold was a bit of sh1t wasn’t he?
I remember staying in a hostel in Belgium and they had copies of tintin in the Congo - kerrrroist.
I’m always a bit baffled by the pride people have in the empire seeing as rarely were they alive, let alone old enough to benefit from it. It’s almost like they’re not that clued up on history. |  |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 16:07 - Aug 7 with 1268 views | jontysnut |
People more annoyed at this than Tory donor Lord Bamford not paying his £500,000,000 tax bill. |  | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:11 - Aug 7 with 1212 views | NedPlimpton |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:07 - Aug 7 by jontysnut |
People more annoyed at this than Tory donor Lord Bamford not paying his £500,000,000 tax bill. |
Gammon's gonna gammon | | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:12 - Aug 7 with 1189 views | baxterbasics |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:56 - Aug 7 by noggin |
I'm watching Sky News and they are still calling asylum seekers, "illegal"
Is it any wonder the 'non critical' thinkers are getting so angry. The MSM is a cesspit of misinformation and the far right are happy to whip up hatred. |
Well at least left and right seem to be united about one thing: disdain for the MSM! | |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 16:15 - Aug 7 with 1155 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:07 - Aug 7 by jontysnut |
People more annoyed at this than Tory donor Lord Bamford not paying his £500,000,000 tax bill. |
Recovering unpaid tax would certainly help the Government's pressure to increase taxes but I suspect those with powerful links in the right-wing media will spin this as nastier than putting inheritance tax on rich landowners.
https://taxjustice.uk/blog/where-are-the-billions-in-missing-tax-2/ | |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 16:21 - Aug 7 with 1088 views | onceablue |
| So HMRC made their staff on 15:54 - Aug 7 by Herbivore |
If you weren't such a berk, I'd feel embarrassed for you. |
I love winding you far left cronies up 😂😂 | | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:28 - Aug 7 with 1019 views | NedPlimpton |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:21 - Aug 7 by onceablue |
I love winding you far left cronies up 😂😂 |
Cute
And also quite sad that you have nothing better to do with your day. Genuinely feel sorry for you | | | |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:40 - Aug 7 with 960 views | Herbivore |
| So HMRC made their staff on 16:21 - Aug 7 by onceablue |
I love winding you far left cronies up 😂😂 |
Either you're 12 or things have gone very wrong for you at some point in your life. | |
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| So HMRC made their staff on 16:43 - Aug 7 with 922 views | vilanovablue |
I work with HMRC on a day to day basis and get invited to a lot of calls that are HMRC wide and this didn't pop up in my calendar. |  | | |
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