| Egeli 18:16 - Jan 24 with 2681 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
I was really pleased when we signed him, as I saw a lot of potential and upside. Early games for us also showed there is definitely a player there with some good vision and exceptional passing but he often got lost in games. He would take players on and lose possession or shoot when a pass was the better option. I put it down to age/new country/new system.
In my opinion, he has regressed and, when presented with the opportunity to take players on and create a break, plays it safely backwards. He actually looks like a player who has lost confidence and is struggling to settle.
With Burns back from injury and McAteer starting to find his feet I hope he is given a rest from first team football and only has a bit part to play in the next month or so. He needs to find his place in the team and almost start again! |  |
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| Egeli on 00:18 - Jan 25 with 504 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| Egeli on 19:57 - Jan 24 by Plums |
He looked to be absolutely in bits after missing that early chance. Hirst had to go across to him and try and buck him up. He's 19 and needs a lift. The change in his life has been enormous.
He looked lost out there today.
There's definitely a player there - but he looks up tight and not playing his natural game at all. [Post edited 24 Jan 21:01]
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Also love this comment. It is easy as adults to forget how difficult it is to be a teenager,. It was hard enough for us, but we didn't even have to experience a 10th of the pressure that these young lads have to experience.
I mean, their executive function (decision-making) part of the brain hasn't even fully developed at that stage of life. Why on earth should we expect them to be able to adequately manage their talent with the right decisions all of the time? The pressure on them is immense.
Some have (perhaps rightly) suggested we shouldn't give him time to develop at the expense of promotion, but I think that's missing the point. How can he come good quickly (which is surely the aim from a financial perspective) if we don't give him the minutes AND the support to do so? [Post edited 25 Jan 0:25]
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| Egeli on 00:42 - Jan 25 with 451 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Egeli on 19:57 - Jan 24 by Plums |
He looked to be absolutely in bits after missing that early chance. Hirst had to go across to him and try and buck him up. He's 19 and needs a lift. The change in his life has been enormous.
He looked lost out there today.
There's definitely a player there - but he looks up tight and not playing his natural game at all. [Post edited 24 Jan 21:01]
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I noticed his reaction too, confidence looked shot to bits. |  |
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| Egeli on 01:30 - Jan 25 with 403 views | Portman_Pie |
| Egeli on 00:42 - Jan 25 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I noticed his reaction too, confidence looked shot to bits. |
Wes Burns - £200,000 (signed by Cook)
Egeli - £18,500,000
McAteer - £12,000,000
Doesn’t look too good to date does it? |  | | |
| Egeli on 06:41 - Jan 25 with 359 views | BlueOura |
| Egeli on 18:45 - Jan 24 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
If you have no pace I think your ceiling is pretty limited as an attacker unless you are a truly special technical player.
I’m not doubting he might turn out to be a good player in the future. I’m seriously struggling to see what we have paid the best part of 20 million for. He has been miles off it for large parts of the season. He is so one dimensional it’s crazy. His finishing was his strong suit at his previous club and he looks so timid in front of goal. Not sure what’s gone on but it doesn’t look right to me at all. |
I agree. I have been surprised at just how one-paced he is. When we signed him I expected a player that was dynamic and rapid, and unfortunately he doesn't appear to be either.
Of course you expect a young player to have dips in form and to make poor decisions with the ball etc. but the raw ingredients should be on display, most of the time.
He doesn't have the pace to get away from people and he plays like he knows it. He seems scared to be out there a lot of the time and increasingly takes the easy option.
I'm not writing him off as still very young but it's a little concerning at this stage when looking at his output against the fee we paid.
I feel sorry for him at the moment as his confidence is shot, he needs to be taken out of the firing line for a bit. [Post edited 25 Jan 6:56]
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| Egeli on 09:37 - Jan 25 with 298 views | USA |
| Egeli on 20:58 - Jan 24 by AVJones |
Professional sport is brutal. Whilst having potential is great, it is performance that is King.
This thread is full of thoughtful and caring comments. Everyone wants him to succeed. However, everyone can also see that whatever the expectations were for him this season, they are currently not being met.
Some very careful man management required over the next few weeks and months. |
Disagree. I think he’s been used far more than envisaged already and him getting minutes was probs the biggest aim for this season. I suspect he has surpassed this seasons expectations from a managerial POV. He hasn’t reached the level of what’s required and what Town fans expect from that position though, undoubtedly. | |
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| Egeli on 10:10 - Jan 25 with 259 views | franz_tyson |
| Egeli on 09:37 - Jan 25 by USA |
Disagree. I think he’s been used far more than envisaged already and him getting minutes was probs the biggest aim for this season. I suspect he has surpassed this seasons expectations from a managerial POV. He hasn’t reached the level of what’s required and what Town fans expect from that position though, undoubtedly. |
Would it be a consideration to get him a loan. At a lower level so as to try and get him some confidence back. Maybe a loan back to Scandinavia. I feel for him, but he looks like he won't ever get past his full back. I prefer trying McAteer along with Wes on the right for their direct running. If McAteer and Wes have the right wing tied up.... where else can he play? He hasn't got the guile for a 10 and we've just bought one. | | | |
| Egeli on 10:15 - Jan 25 with 246 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Egeli on 18:31 - Jan 24 by _CliveBaker_ |
I think both things can be true in that he can have potential but not being giving us enough. I’m not sure it’s even a reflection on him tbh, I just don’t think he’s right for our system. It would be a bit different with an overlapping fullback behind him, but given Furlong’s profile it’s even more of a head scratcher to me. I just don’t get it. |
I think people are being a bit silly if they think we paid £17.5m (broke the Champ transfer record) and didn’t expect him to be really influencing games this season. I think he probably will go on to be a very good player but he’s not doing enough at the moment. | | | |
| Egeli on 10:24 - Jan 25 with 222 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Egeli on 01:30 - Jan 25 by Portman_Pie |
Wes Burns - £200,000 (signed by Cook)
Egeli - £18,500,000
McAteer - £12,000,000
Doesn’t look too good to date does it? |
Comparing apples with oranges. Burns is in his 30s, vastly more experienced, was bought while in League 1... and has been here (learning McKenna's system) for years. |  |
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| Egeli on 10:34 - Jan 25 with 208 views | HighgateBlue |
| Egeli on 00:15 - Jan 25 by itfcsuth |
We’ve spent over £30m on right wing options, and our best player in that role by a country mile is our right winger from Fleetwood for £200k, in a snapshot it gives you a hint to our general recruitment successes.
Egeli a talented boy, but nowhere near the level we need at the moment. Just a different sort of player entirely to that of Burns - lacks that explosive directness to his game. I’d suggest McAteer is more of Burns replica than Sindre.
In our system, the way we play, doesn’t look to fit the right wing role. |
That first sentence is devastating. Completely and utterly true, but what an indictment of the sheer scale of the money that has been wasted. There also seems to be an obsession in keeping on spending millions and millions in certain positions, rather than adding where we need it most.
When we've not been successful this season, the common description of our play with the ball is slow and ponderous. Burns absolutely solves that problem. At least down the right - I appreciate he can't be everywhere! |  | | |
| Egeli on 10:34 - Jan 25 with 207 views | grow_our_own |
"used far more than envisaged already and him getting minutes was probs the biggest aim for this season" - biggest aim was for him to be Hutchinson II. He's not as bad as his form yesterday, but it's clear he'll never be as good as that. Making mistakes is inevitable at 19, not competing is not. Right now we've got three RWers, one we need to ration minutes because he's returning from a year's injury, one is an athlete seemingly devoid of footballing skills, and the other has got skills but is devoid of athleticism. Massive problem position. Hopefully situation will improve, but that's where we are. | | | |
| Egeli on 10:37 - Jan 25 with 196 views | HighgateBlue |
| Egeli on 18:47 - Jan 24 by gainsboroughblue |
He either needs to be tried in the 10 or become our from the bench finisher for now. We are danger of killing his confidence with him on the right. Apart from that game at QPR, it's not really worked. |
But then, we've just bought another 10 to try out. I think the Mehmeti signing was a positive one, and at a good price (certainly compared to a number of the inflated fees we've paid). But it does rather indicate that McKenna doesn't see Egeli being predominantly a 10.
Maybe Egeli will ultimately be a 9? Who knows, but he's still very young and McKenna hasn't shown any indication yet that at present he sees him as anything other than out on the wing. The wing where Burns is so clearly our most effective option. | | | |
| Egeli on 10:58 - Jan 25 with 167 views | AVJones |
| Egeli on 09:37 - Jan 25 by USA |
Disagree. I think he’s been used far more than envisaged already and him getting minutes was probs the biggest aim for this season. I suspect he has surpassed this seasons expectations from a managerial POV. He hasn’t reached the level of what’s required and what Town fans expect from that position though, undoubtedly. |
Sorry, I can’t agree. As a club we’re not in a position to spend nearly £20 million on a project.
I agree that he’s probably played more than we would’ve wanted. The “Omari model” suggests that we would’ve had him as an impact substitute more in the first few months.
However, he’s regressed and seems to have lost confidence. That would not fit with any managers expectations.
I hope he’s okay, and that our managerial team help him through this difficult period and he comes back much stronger. [Post edited 25 Jan 10:59]
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| Egeli on 11:16 - Jan 25 with 145 views | DJR |
He looked to me yesterday as if he didn't really want to be there. Indeed, on occasions he didn't really offer options and seemed to duck out of headers.
I suppose we mustn't forget the step up in intensity from Norwegian football, and you don't get more intense and physical teams than Sheffield United.
Perhaps he just needs time to develop physically, or he needs to go on the weights.
Having said all this, he wasn't alone in not matching up to the intensity of Sheffield United yesterday. Indeed, it is rather difficult to come up with anyone who played well, apart from maybe Burns who did make a bit of a difference when he came on. [Post edited 25 Jan 11:17]
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| Egeli on 12:19 - Jan 25 with 91 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Hes 19 adjusting to a stronger quicker league, plus he cores against Norwich. Give the lad a break, he needs time to adjust. |  |
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| Egeli on 12:26 - Jan 25 with 73 views | pointofblue |
| Egeli on 10:58 - Jan 25 by AVJones |
Sorry, I can’t agree. As a club we’re not in a position to spend nearly £20 million on a project.
I agree that he’s probably played more than we would’ve wanted. The “Omari model” suggests that we would’ve had him as an impact substitute more in the first few months.
However, he’s regressed and seems to have lost confidence. That would not fit with any managers expectations.
I hope he’s okay, and that our managerial team help him through this difficult period and he comes back much stronger. [Post edited 25 Jan 10:59]
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The managerial team will have to help him through this period because the fans won't.
As the poster said above, practically everyone was awful yesterday, yet it's Egeli getting singled out? | |
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| Egeli on 12:34 - Jan 25 with 58 views | franz_tyson |
| Egeli on 12:19 - Jan 25 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Hes 19 adjusting to a stronger quicker league, plus he cores against Norwich. Give the lad a break, he needs time to adjust. |
I think many are on his side, but we're coming into the business end of the season and it's not the time to carry someone. I would rather McAteer and Wes switch around the RW position. McAteer has a promotion and PL appearances under his belt even though he's had a tough time here. I'd back him over Eggers at this stage.
Much as I want Eggers to succeed this season, we're getting to the stage where learning on the job isn't on anymore. I wouldn't be against a loan out for him to get his confidence back. The lad doesn't look like he's enjoying his footie. | | | |
| Egeli on 12:38 - Jan 25 with 36 views | Libero |
He’s a teenager, playing in a new country, in a position that doesn’t really seem to suit his attributes- I understand why McKenna is playing him there, it installs some really solid ‘McKenna-ball’ principles in him, that maybe would be easier to circumvent or not learned in quite such an active manner if he was playing number ten.
I’m sure he will come good, but people need to be realistic and understand that development and growth/player development isn’t always linear.
I think Burns is the clear starter in that wide right role and SWE is yet to really ‘turn it on’ but that doesn’t mean he isn’t learning and that his stint out there isn’t going to provide him with skills/experiences/tools that make him a better player. |  | | |
| Egeli on 12:41 - Jan 25 with 26 views | Libero |
| Egeli on 12:19 - Jan 25 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Hes 19 adjusting to a stronger quicker league, plus he cores against Norwich. Give the lad a break, he needs time to adjust. |
Think you’re confusing SWE with Jack Clarke here- as the other goal scores against Norwich were Philogene and Kipre… | | | |
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