| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? 12:19 - Mar 24 with 12469 views | itfcjoe |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:19 - Mar 24 with 1872 views | Jon_456 |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:05 - Mar 24 by ElderGrizzly |
Some above are saying he is next to Farage while he is signing the shirt.
If true, it isn't great. |
So to be clear, people are calling for a man to lose his job because ‘someone’ on a fan forum is guessing he may be standing next to someone they don’t like, without any proof? |  | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:19 - Mar 24 with 1872 views | portmanking |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:13 - Mar 24 by ElderGrizzly |
Nope. Couldn't care less on Twitter likes or whatever it is now.
I'm literally just repeating what someone above said and if it is signed for Mark then it is problematic for their story. |
Who cares if it's signed for Mark?! Why couldn't he address something to the Chair of the club?
It's absolutely not the case that he's the one holding the shirt. Those two people are much, much younger hands than a 50+ Ashton. It's probably the people he was walking around the stadium with. | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:21 - Mar 24 with 1844 views | IP1Blue |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:04 - Mar 24 by ElderGrizzly |
If they genuinely had no involvement, there was a very simple statement early this morning:
"We were unaware of the intended use of the media from The Reform Party visit to Portman Road and would not have approved it if known"
That due to time and now the other 'evidence' appears to have long gone. |
Disagree completely!
The video only came out 2/3 hours ago!yes there was a few photos yesterday but the vide is where it doesn’t look particularly great but I don’t think it takes a genius to work out it’s cleverly edited.
I expect some sort of statement will come out at some point today, but the club have got to make sure they get it right first and it wouldn’t be ‘late’ if they got it out today
Let’s also not say Mark Ashton is in that video as there is certainly a lack of evidence | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:33 - Mar 24 with 1770 views | pointofblue |
I think the best thing the club can do is publicly announce the same service provided to Reform is open to all political parties fighting in May's IBC election should they wish to take up the offer. However, after the election, the club will be apolitical and this will not be permitted moving forward. Show it isn't something especially provided to Reform and attempt to quash it as a problem moving forward. | |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:42 - Mar 24 with 1656 views | itfc_statman |
I can't believe there are some genuinely defending the club on this.
If you believe the club had no involvement and had no idea then you're gullible enough to believe anything anyone says.
More to the point, I've been a staunch believer in keeping general politics outside of football. That has traditionally been a more right-leaning point of view and I probably am slightly right of center if being honest.
Farage himself has gone on and on about keeping politics out of football. If only he could manage it himself... | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:44 - Mar 24 with 1635 views | catch74 |
Perfectly executed pr stunt for Farage, divide a nation with Brexit, continue with immigration and manage to divide a football club with this. Given oxygen and now in the mainstream media.
Could be a genuine oversight by the club but feels like there’s been an element of input from within.
Doesn’t sit nicely, a football club should be apolitical.
If you’re upset, maybe an email to the club to let it be known, anyone got the best contact? |  |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:49 - Mar 24 with 1587 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:21 - Mar 24 by IP1Blue |
Disagree completely!
The video only came out 2/3 hours ago!yes there was a few photos yesterday but the vide is where it doesn’t look particularly great but I don’t think it takes a genius to work out it’s cleverly edited.
I expect some sort of statement will come out at some point today, but the club have got to make sure they get it right first and it wouldn’t be ‘late’ if they got it out today
Let’s also not say Mark Ashton is in that video as there is certainly a lack of evidence |
Its already late. The silence has allowed all manner of speculation, and firmly suggests its not as straightforward as they initially (through conduits such as this site) briefed people.
First rule of PR- get ahead of the story. | |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:52 - Mar 24 with 1546 views | bluelagos |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 12:47 - Mar 24 by ElderGrizzly |
I don't think anyone has suggested he was invited.
But this isn't even a normal private tour. Someone has gone above and beyond.
By being duped by Farage or we've agreed to their demands. Either is poor.
My post on it on X appears to have got 4,100 likes too, so now I have all Farage's army after me for being woke, gay, a nonce etc... |
Quite the bunch of snowflakes!
I've been blocking anyone who's abusive - being called a "Traitorous c*nit" for sharing a "Refugees welcome" photo is quite something. |  |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:58 - Mar 24 with 1459 views | IP1Blue |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:49 - Mar 24 by redrickstuhaart |
Its already late. The silence has allowed all manner of speculation, and firmly suggests its not as straightforward as they initially (through conduits such as this site) briefed people.
First rule of PR- get ahead of the story. |
They’re probably investigating what has happened, how it happened and why it happened - there’s no point in releasing a statement and then as you’re half way through your investigation, having to release another statement.
The club will no doubt be having an internal investigation and then will release a statement based off of that - they didn’t know about the story or the extent of the story until the photos/videos were posted online. It would be irresponsible to do anything less | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:04 - Mar 24 with 1412 views | baxterbasics |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:58 - Mar 24 by IP1Blue |
They’re probably investigating what has happened, how it happened and why it happened - there’s no point in releasing a statement and then as you’re half way through your investigation, having to release another statement.
The club will no doubt be having an internal investigation and then will release a statement based off of that - they didn’t know about the story or the extent of the story until the photos/videos were posted online. It would be irresponsible to do anything less |
This is what I'm thinking.
The club are working right now to get their facts and story very very straight before putting anything out there.
Maybe sending out a P45 or two first.
The extended silence isn't helping much, though. [Post edited 24 Mar 15:05]
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:05 - Mar 24 with 1390 views | pointofblue |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 14:58 - Mar 24 by IP1Blue |
They’re probably investigating what has happened, how it happened and why it happened - there’s no point in releasing a statement and then as you’re half way through your investigation, having to release another statement.
The club will no doubt be having an internal investigation and then will release a statement based off of that - they didn’t know about the story or the extent of the story until the photos/videos were posted online. It would be irresponsible to do anything less |
I hope I'm wrong but my gut feeling is quite a few people in prominent positions at the club knew far more than they're letting on, and the silence is more about saving face than being caught unawares. [Post edited 24 Mar 15:10]
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:07 - Mar 24 with 1367 views | lurcher |
What more can they say? I expect that they are talking to their lawyers about a reputational damage legal case. |  | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:08 - Mar 24 with 1347 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:07 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
What more can they say? I expect that they are talking to their lawyers about a reputational damage legal case. |
Not much chance of that. | |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:20 - Mar 24 with 1247 views | ITFCSG |
The club can't be that dumb not to know anything about it.
Putting up the Farage 1-0 shirts in the dressing room is a clear giveaway. If any normal Tom, Dick and Harry has booked the VIP tour do you think they'd be allowed to put up shirts with the name of their choice in the dressing room? | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:23 - Mar 24 with 1231 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:07 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
What more can they say? I expect that they are talking to their lawyers about a reputational damage legal case. |
Pretty much impossible to substantiate that.
It was entirely within the clubs gift to stop this happening, and they didn't. Its as simple as that. There's no way the tour was booked, Farage shirts printed, Comms Director lined up to meet them, red carpet rolled out by way of access that isn't available to a layman on a stadium tour etc without the club having prior knowledge.
They weren't blindsided, they knew about it. Their suggestion that it was just AN Other booking is insulting. It was a choice, and one that was presumably discussed and concluded the right thing to welcome them. Its a ridiculous decision and an incredible lack of foresight for which they're unsurprisingly getting burned. |  | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:36 - Mar 24 with 1141 views | ElderGrizzly |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:08 - Mar 24 by redrickstuhaart |
Not much chance of that. |
Farage knows what he has done too based on this and who he is replying to
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:37 - Mar 24 with 1122 views | Zx1988 |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:07 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
What more can they say? I expect that they are talking to their lawyers about a reputational damage legal case. |
You can't sue someone else for setting your own house on fire. | |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:47 - Mar 24 with 1046 views | lurcher |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:37 - Mar 24 by Zx1988 |
You can't sue someone else for setting your own house on fire. |
Well that all depends on what is in the small print when you buy the ticket. | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:01 - Mar 24 with 972 views | lurcher |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 15:23 - Mar 24 by _CliveBaker_ |
Pretty much impossible to substantiate that.
It was entirely within the clubs gift to stop this happening, and they didn't. Its as simple as that. There's no way the tour was booked, Farage shirts printed, Comms Director lined up to meet them, red carpet rolled out by way of access that isn't available to a layman on a stadium tour etc without the club having prior knowledge.
They weren't blindsided, they knew about it. Their suggestion that it was just AN Other booking is insulting. It was a choice, and one that was presumably discussed and concluded the right thing to welcome them. Its a ridiculous decision and an incredible lack of foresight for which they're unsurprisingly getting burned. |
Farage was booked in under a false name. It was staged, there is no way the club would have sanctioned this. It was a clever setup, the shirt was probably made weeks ago and all the places on the trip were taken by reform people. Those trips are run by a couple of retired older guys, it would have been so easy for people to shield off Farage and get the photos they wanted. Some of the photos are clearly AI. | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:05 - Mar 24 with 928 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Now in the Guardian - 'Ipswich fans ‘disgusted and ashamed’ after Nigel Farage photo opportunity at Portman Road'
https://www.theguardian.com/fo [Post edited 24 Mar 16:05]
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:05 - Mar 24 with 911 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:01 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
Farage was booked in under a false name. It was staged, there is no way the club would have sanctioned this. It was a clever setup, the shirt was probably made weeks ago and all the places on the trip were taken by reform people. Those trips are run by a couple of retired older guys, it would have been so easy for people to shield off Farage and get the photos they wanted. Some of the photos are clearly AI. |
One would hope so.
But it appears a club official pitched up to meet them, multiple shirts wer e0printed and unusual levels of access granted, thee trophies were brought out, and the club aren't interested in saying otherwise, despite national negative coverage.
I am unconvinced. | |
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| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:10 - Mar 24 with 856 views | ITFCSG |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:05 - Mar 24 by redrickstuhaart |
One would hope so.
But it appears a club official pitched up to meet them, multiple shirts wer e0printed and unusual levels of access granted, thee trophies were brought out, and the club aren't interested in saying otherwise, despite national negative coverage.
I am unconvinced. |
I mean, it doesn't take much effort for the Club PR team to put out a statement disclaiming any involvement with Farage's propaganda show but yet they have been silent.
Why? | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:10 - Mar 24 with 834 views | lurcher |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:05 - Mar 24 by redrickstuhaart |
One would hope so.
But it appears a club official pitched up to meet them, multiple shirts wer e0printed and unusual levels of access granted, thee trophies were brought out, and the club aren't interested in saying otherwise, despite national negative coverage.
I am unconvinced. |
A club official or the normal tour guide? The multiple shirts you see in the dressing room are AI. The signing of the shirt in front of the tunnel and him holding it up in the media room aren't. But everything else could be. | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:11 - Mar 24 with 818 views | lurcher |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 12:41 - Mar 24 by urbanpenguin |
Then, respectfully, you're an idiot |
It will have been filmed on a 4 or 8k action camera. | | | |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:15 - Mar 24 with 763 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This 'No Official Involvement' line can't seriously be expected to hold? on 16:10 - Mar 24 by lurcher |
A club official or the normal tour guide? The multiple shirts you see in the dressing room are AI. The signing of the shirt in front of the tunnel and him holding it up in the media room aren't. But everything else could be. |
Evidence of AI please?
Explanation for the trophies?
It is widely reported that the Comms Director met them.
They must have known in advance given the security side of things.
The silence is telling. | |
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