| Walle Egeli 20:13 - Apr 19 with 3037 views | noggin |
Clearly a talented lad but I really don't know why KM insists on playing him on the right. He doesn't look comfortable out there and that has to have a negative effect on his confidence. |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 08:08 - Apr 20 with 545 views | bournemouthblue |
| Walle Egeli on 20:15 - Apr 19 by jas0999 |
I really like him. But looks like an expensive punt, which hasn’t worked in a season where promotion is the only acceptable outcome |
If we go up, he probably gets a loan somewhere and plays upfront for them, he will end up as a striker or a support striker I suspect |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 08:38 - Apr 20 with 505 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Walle Egeli on 06:34 - Apr 20 by LeoMuff |
He has a great touch, has scored some decent goals this season, has a good shot on him and can use either foot. For 19 year old he is physically up to the championship level already. Not sure about pace.
You can see why we spent the cash, and he will be better next season. |
I don't want to bash the kid but a lot of that seems very generous. His physicality is what scares me the most. |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 08:41 - Apr 20 with 503 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Walle Egeli on 08:38 - Apr 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I don't want to bash the kid but a lot of that seems very generous. His physicality is what scares me the most. |
I think he has it in him but he plays like he's chilling. When you watch someone like mcateer or wes burning oil getting back and getting stuck in, or trying to win any balls that go their way, Walle just casually goes about his business. It's scary how much he lets players run away from him when they're on the attack. |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 09:32 - Apr 20 with 452 views | dirtyboy |
| Walle Egeli on 08:41 - Apr 20 by FrimleyBlue |
I think he has it in him but he plays like he's chilling. When you watch someone like mcateer or wes burning oil getting back and getting stuck in, or trying to win any balls that go their way, Walle just casually goes about his business. It's scary how much he lets players run away from him when they're on the attack. |
I'd largely agree with this, I think he has a lovely tough, clearly able to get shots off, but there's a little bit of fight missing.
Ultimately, 19 and will toughen up physically and mentally over the next few years, like McAteer, I refuse to write him off just yet, but do appreciate the money spent hasn't led to an immediate impact which was perhaps needed this year. |  | | |
| Walle Egeli on 10:23 - Apr 20 with 419 views | TownieRob |
| Walle Egeli on 06:52 - Apr 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You claim people seeing something in him are "telling porkies" and then suggest you might have got this "spectaculary wrong".
I think what you're really saying is some people might know more about football than you. |
I'm hopeful for the sake of the lad, someone in recruitment and whoever signed it off that I have got this wrong.
You are absolutely right, there are plenty of people who know far more about football than me. However, if someone tells me on the basis of 'what they have seen this season' that we should have spent the best part of 20mill on him, then I can tell you they arent in that group of people who don't know more more about football than me. [Post edited 20 Apr 11:13]
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| Walle Egeli on 10:34 - Apr 20 with 397 views | ITFCson |
Regardless of the league we are in I think its likely he will be loaned out next season. He needs to be playing regularly to help build up his confidence. | | | |
| Walle Egeli on 10:35 - Apr 20 with 395 views | baxterbasics |
There's also the fact that with Burns out, we don't have many other options on the right when McAteer is knackered and needs replacing. Those two are our first choices in that position as it stands. |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 13:05 - Apr 20 with 321 views | franz_tyson |
| Walle Egeli on 08:00 - Apr 20 by BloomBlue |
He's a young lad give him chance. This stupid idea from many Town fans that money spent = equals instant success is crazy.
Beto was on the wireless a couple of weeks ago and he was talking about it took him over a season to get up to speed playing for Everton. Different country, different approach to football style. Yes he was scoring goals, but he was saying the constant pace, high press week after week wasn't something he was ready for. He was fit but when he played in Portugal and Italy he said he could find moments in games to slow down, in the PL he couldn't and that took his body a year to really get up to that constant demand. |
How does this help us when we're playing in a highly competitive league at the most vital point of the season?
We're a senior football team where the rewards of getting promoted are unreal. We're not a junior level team or a lower level team or a development team. It's simple.... if he's not ready to play this level of football... then we should have got him a loan.
People are being so overly kind to him to the point of re-wrting history. He's not really shown a great range of passing, he's unable to dribble on the outside, he's not shown a great level of strength or speed, his crossing isn't particularly good and usually lofts a ball in which gets easily cleared and his shooting isn't nothing to rave about. That's from his performances for us... not international 21's or in low quality Scandinavia leagues.
He has, however, scored 3 or 4 goals, which shows he has something around the box and can be neat and tidy. He also looks great playing for age level Norway. But the Championship is a far higher level than these age group level.He's got potential and, in retrospect, we should have sent him out on loan.
Trying too hard to be nice to him isn’t going to get us promoted. No one wants him to fail, but we're at the stage where everybody has to contribute whatever their age or experience.
Good luck to him, but I hope Wes is fit and we don't have to use him this season. Hopefully he'll come good in the future. | | | |
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| Walle Egeli on 13:24 - Apr 20 with 296 views | eirannach_gorm |
| Walle Egeli on 13:05 - Apr 20 by franz_tyson |
How does this help us when we're playing in a highly competitive league at the most vital point of the season?
We're a senior football team where the rewards of getting promoted are unreal. We're not a junior level team or a lower level team or a development team. It's simple.... if he's not ready to play this level of football... then we should have got him a loan.
People are being so overly kind to him to the point of re-wrting history. He's not really shown a great range of passing, he's unable to dribble on the outside, he's not shown a great level of strength or speed, his crossing isn't particularly good and usually lofts a ball in which gets easily cleared and his shooting isn't nothing to rave about. That's from his performances for us... not international 21's or in low quality Scandinavia leagues.
He has, however, scored 3 or 4 goals, which shows he has something around the box and can be neat and tidy. He also looks great playing for age level Norway. But the Championship is a far higher level than these age group level.He's got potential and, in retrospect, we should have sent him out on loan.
Trying too hard to be nice to him isn’t going to get us promoted. No one wants him to fail, but we're at the stage where everybody has to contribute whatever their age or experience.
Good luck to him, but I hope Wes is fit and we don't have to use him this season. Hopefully he'll come good in the future. |
A cautionary reminder of another 19 year old who did not pull up trees when he was here and was deemed surplus to requirements.
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| Walle Egeli on 13:34 - Apr 20 with 253 views | OldFart71 |
We played Egeli in the number 10 position in the cup and he looked completely lost.
But give the fella a break, he's only 19 and the guy we got from Chelsea isn't playing in the first team at the same age.
This is his first season in a tough league where many of those supposedly hardened players have struggled.
He can and will turn into a great player, believe me. | | | |
| Walle Egeli on 13:35 - Apr 20 with 249 views | BlueBlood90 |
I think Egeli would be much better if we played with a right back in the same mould as Leif Davis. Davis is constantly busting a gut to make unselfish overlapping runs to occupy and take the full back away from Clarke/Philogene. This allows them extra space to manoeuvre and attack the opposition. Furlong being defensive minded on the right brings much needed balance to the side, but it doesn't really help our right wingers to be as effective as they could be in my opinion. |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 13:36 - Apr 20 with 248 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Walle Egeli on 10:23 - Apr 20 by TownieRob |
I'm hopeful for the sake of the lad, someone in recruitment and whoever signed it off that I have got this wrong.
You are absolutely right, there are plenty of people who know far more about football than me. However, if someone tells me on the basis of 'what they have seen this season' that we should have spent the best part of 20mill on him, then I can tell you they arent in that group of people who don't know more more about football than me. [Post edited 20 Apr 11:13]
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Well we'll have to bow to your undoubted wisdom.
The thing with potential is it's not always immediately obvious to the lay person. We beat a number of potential suitors (which probably explains the high price), so we're not the only ones to see that potential.
Oh, and it was £17.5m |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 13:48 - Apr 20 with 213 views | franz_tyson |
No one's saying he's surplus to requirements in the long term.
What I don't understand is why so many are going over the top about him. It's daft. He's found if tough this year ( unsurprisingly). I'd love him to do well, but I'm not going to make up "nice" stuff about him. He's got to earn it.
Not sure what Troy Parrot has got to do about it. The Eredivisie is a far easier league than the Championship. SWE is playing at a higher level than Parrot at the moment, and I think the Eredivisie would have been a great league for SWE to get more experience. | | | |
| Walle Egeli on 14:00 - Apr 20 with 192 views | itfc_statman |
He isn't a player who looks like it was worth breaking the Championship transfer record and anyone who says otherwise have paid little attention to the talent that has been in this league over even just recent seasons for much less spend.
Look at those down the road, since y'know, they've been stuck in this league a lot longer than us now - Schwartau who scored at PR against us same age, physically a bit stronger, same goals / assists it looks like, apparently cost a couple mill. Suppose they had the same with Sainz who obvs scored a ton to stop them going down last season
I know they havent bought him but would have been available for about £8m Bobby Clark at Derby.
YPOTS Jordan James at Leicester - again a loan but option to buy around £5 million.
It gives you a rough idea. None of this means Egeli can't become a very very good Championship player but for me it's another Ashton over-spend | | | |
| Walle Egeli on 14:06 - Apr 20 with 186 views | boysof1981 |
Play him as a 10, or up front in place of Azon, certain he’d have buried many a chance that Azon has missed.
One of the silver linings of failure if we don’t get promoted is we aren’t required to buy Cajuste, Akpom and Azon, all of which I believe have clauses to purchase if we were to go up. Just three examples of th millions squandered by Ashton and the club. | | | |
| Walle Egeli on 14:07 - Apr 20 with 184 views | TownieRob |
| Walle Egeli on 13:36 - Apr 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Well we'll have to bow to your undoubted wisdom.
The thing with potential is it's not always immediately obvious to the lay person. We beat a number of potential suitors (which probably explains the high price), so we're not the only ones to see that potential.
Oh, and it was £17.5m |
No need for the 'lay person' jibe, we just have a differing of opinion.
And £17.5m… yup, looks a steal. | | | |
| Walle Egeli on 14:13 - Apr 20 with 180 views | eirannach_gorm |
| Walle Egeli on 13:48 - Apr 20 by franz_tyson |
No one's saying he's surplus to requirements in the long term.
What I don't understand is why so many are going over the top about him. It's daft. He's found if tough this year ( unsurprisingly). I'd love him to do well, but I'm not going to make up "nice" stuff about him. He's got to earn it.
Not sure what Troy Parrot has got to do about it. The Eredivisie is a far easier league than the Championship. SWE is playing at a higher level than Parrot at the moment, and I think the Eredivisie would have been a great league for SWE to get more experience. |
I don't know where you get this over the top positive comments about him. If anything there has been an OTT reaction to his price tag compared to his performance. The point regarding Troy Parrott was to show that at 19 years of age you might not be the finished article. Whether the Championship is a higher standard than the Eredivisie is irrelevant. Egeli may benefit hugely from a loan period to get his bearings in English football. We might get a chance to see how good Ogbene is ; ) | | | |
| Walle Egeli on 14:14 - Apr 20 with 180 views | MattinLondon |
| Walle Egeli on 07:06 - Apr 20 by Kieran_Knows |
He’s not an expensive punt when some of the top clubs in Europe were after him. [Post edited 20 Apr 7:06]
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Which top clubs were after him and did any of them actually put in a bid for him?
Think it’s too early for anyone to write him off as he’s young and moving to a foreign country at that age must take a lot out of him. I will say that his lack of pace concerns me. |  | | |
| Walle Egeli on 14:25 - Apr 20 with 172 views | BlueForYou |
Id like to see him u.p front, he looks a born goalscorer to me. Wasted on the right but at least he gets experience. Him & Azon would make a decent pairing. |  | | |
| Walle Egeli on 14:35 - Apr 20 with 153 views | Rimsy |
Where does he play for u21's? |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 15:02 - Apr 20 with 134 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Walle Egeli on 14:14 - Apr 20 by MattinLondon |
Which top clubs were after him and did any of them actually put in a bid for him?
Think it’s too early for anyone to write him off as he’s young and moving to a foreign country at that age must take a lot out of him. I will say that his lack of pace concerns me. |
Porto, PSV and Club Brugge all wanted him. Top, if not the best clubs in their respective leagues who all have a track record of producing or selling players on with huge upsell. PSV released a video at the end of last year around their transfer activity last summer and he featured very heavily on it.
That’s before you think where he’s came from, probably the most reputable team in Scandinavia who have an incredible track record of producing players also.
He’ll come good, very good. |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 15:07 - Apr 20 with 127 views | SomethingBlue |
| Walle Egeli on 15:02 - Apr 20 by Kieran_Knows |
Porto, PSV and Club Brugge all wanted him. Top, if not the best clubs in their respective leagues who all have a track record of producing or selling players on with huge upsell. PSV released a video at the end of last year around their transfer activity last summer and he featured very heavily on it.
That’s before you think where he’s came from, probably the most reputable team in Scandinavia who have an incredible track record of producing players also.
He’ll come good, very good. |
A good comparison would be with Andreas Schjelderup of Benfica – came from same club at same age, similar fee, similar position on pitch, took him a couple of years to do anything and now he's having a cracking season in Portugal & winning man of the match against Real Madrid. It takes time. Sindre will be fine. | |
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| Walle Egeli on 15:55 - Apr 20 with 86 views | Herbivore |
| Walle Egeli on 15:07 - Apr 20 by SomethingBlue |
A good comparison would be with Andreas Schjelderup of Benfica – came from same club at same age, similar fee, similar position on pitch, took him a couple of years to do anything and now he's having a cracking season in Portugal & winning man of the match against Real Madrid. It takes time. Sindre will be fine. |
This thread is symptomatic of how f***ed modern outlooks and culture have become. If something or someone isn't an instant success then they're a failure. If we lose a game we're terrible, even if we've been on a good run before then. People demand perfection, they demand instant gratification, and when they don't get it the toys end up all over the floor.
Walle Egeli is 19, FFS. He won't be hitting his peak for another 7 or 8 years still. He's had a tough first season but one in which he's still chipped in with 6 goal involvements at a rate of one every 246 minutes played. That's not bad for a wide right player in our system. As a comparison, Wes made a goal contribution every 240 minutes in our last promotion season. Wes was 29 and playing the best football of his career, Walle Egeli is 19 and adapting to a new country and playing at a higher level than he's ever played at before. |  |
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| Walle Egeli on 16:08 - Apr 20 with 72 views | noggin |
| Walle Egeli on 15:55 - Apr 20 by Herbivore |
This thread is symptomatic of how f***ed modern outlooks and culture have become. If something or someone isn't an instant success then they're a failure. If we lose a game we're terrible, even if we've been on a good run before then. People demand perfection, they demand instant gratification, and when they don't get it the toys end up all over the floor.
Walle Egeli is 19, FFS. He won't be hitting his peak for another 7 or 8 years still. He's had a tough first season but one in which he's still chipped in with 6 goal involvements at a rate of one every 246 minutes played. That's not bad for a wide right player in our system. As a comparison, Wes made a goal contribution every 240 minutes in our last promotion season. Wes was 29 and playing the best football of his career, Walle Egeli is 19 and adapting to a new country and playing at a higher level than he's ever played at before. |
In my defense, this thread was in no way meant as a criticism of SWE. | |
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| Walle Egeli on 16:11 - Apr 20 with 66 views | Herbivore |
| Walle Egeli on 16:08 - Apr 20 by noggin |
In my defense, this thread was in no way meant as a criticism of SWE. |
Wasn't directed at you so much, nogs. Your OP was not overly critical. | |
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