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This season has been a disaster (discuss) 08:11 - Apr 25 with 2285 viewsfab_lover

Bear with me. It's not about promotion.

After 25 years of supporting the club, I've never felt so down about it

Not that my support will ever stop. Ipswich til I die...

...but. To the rest of the football community, we are now perceived as fascist cheaters.

Should we care?

Imagine being in a relationship, and for years people think your partner is cute, kind, loveable.

Then people change their mind about them. Partly because of things they did; partly because of circumstance.

You'd still love your partner; but it would take the gloss off. Your relationship would be something you would have to defend, not something you'd have validated as before.

Supporters of other clubs - Millwall or Leeds come to mind - have dealt with this for years. Maybe it gets easier with time.

Personally, I'd rather not even be in the play offs and have my club back as it was.

Feel free to tell me I'm a melt etc; but does anyone else feel this way?

Uppa Town.
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:14 - Apr 25 with 1912 viewsBenters

Fascist Cheaters ? Seriously?

Ashton in !

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:21 - Apr 25 with 1852 viewslazyblue

What on earth are you on about , you are an absolute melt. Cmon Town!!
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:22 - Apr 25 with 1851 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Even I would say this probably isn't the day for it! Despite the whole tawdry affair taking the edge off the season, and the fact that watching us has felt far from entertaining a lot of the time, I will be celebrating just as hard if we get a result today.
But as you've brought it up...Ashton Out!!

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:32 - Apr 25 with 1768 viewsHerbivore

I don't think people think we're fascists, angry as I am about Ashton (out) and associating the club with Farage. We're hardly Lazio.

And we pissed and moaned about how many pens Leicester and Leeds were getting in 2023/24 and that is was parachute club bias. We've had two soft ones go out way lately but we've had some stonewall ones not given in games where it's cost us points and then there's the Stoke away decision as well. The Sky co-commentators always seems to have something against us, it was the same in 2023/24 too, the narrative has just shifted from us being plucky but not very good and reliant on late goals to us conning refs.

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:37 - Apr 25 with 1727 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Some won’t recall, as I sometimes forget how long ago it was, but following relegation in 2002
We were described in some quarters as being everyone’s second favourite club.

We’d been that for ages after our repeated missing out on the playoffs, (plucky losers), then taking on the Premiership, as it was called, big boys on a shoestring budget, then suffering relegation but still getting into Europe via winning the fair play award.

For some, including me, this was the final straw, battling relegation all season and winning the fair play award? That didn’t shout “fighting against relegation” that said “too nice” and suddenly many didn’t want to be everyone’s 2nd team any more, we wanted to win things. Then Evans came along and the remaining years are history.

So to hear visiting fans in FPR a few weeks ago singing “same old Ipswich, always cheating” it put a smile on my face for two reasons, firstly we certainly aren’t and secondly it means perception has shifted, and that’s good. There are no other supporters who think we are fascist, you’ve conjured that yourself if other fans *think we cheat? Good. Because their side certainly does, but they think we’re better at it.


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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:37 - Apr 25 with 1722 viewsDBaldy

Here's a tip - don't worry about what other people think, especially when you know they're wrong.
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:49 - Apr 25 with 1645 viewsfabian_illness

Some guy who's been lying to and manipulating people for years has managed to lie to and manipulate a couple of people at the club and make a massive mountain out of a tiny mole hill.
If youve ever stood in dog sh*t, you feel annoyed and dirty and it can certainly spoil your day. But, it wipes off after a while.
Stop crying and back your club.
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:50 - Apr 25 with 1626 viewsnoggin

This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:14 - Apr 25 by Benters

Fascist Cheaters ? Seriously?

Ashton in !


Yeah, cheaters is a bit strong.

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:50 - Apr 25 with 1631 viewsurbanpenguin

I am furious about Ashton's lies and everything that led to them, but to think that the wider world now perceive us as fascists is a little silly. Ashton going will help reduce damage, but that's a leap!
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:54 - Apr 25 with 1595 viewsSitfcB

What a load of ole shít.

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:56 - Apr 25 with 1555 viewsBenters

This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:50 - Apr 25 by noggin

Yeah, cheaters is a bit strong.


Balls .

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:16 - Apr 25 with 1434 viewsGuthrum

No.

Regarding the cheating accusation, that is an entirely-standard set of insults thrown at successful teams by their rivals. We used to say it about Grant Holt all the time.

On the Farage affair, I don't think most people see ITFC as associated with fascism. Those who care enough to use it for more than a few short-lived mocking memes are aware of the strong reaction in our fanbase. It's seen as an odd aberration, rather than a statement of club policy. We don't yet know the full truth of what occurred, may never do, but I suspect there is more to come out after the dust of this season has settled. It's on Ashton, not Ipswich Town.

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:26 - Apr 25 with 1351 viewsblueprint

What a dramatic flounce over nothing.

Im sure if you dug deep into the lives of enough of your fellow Town fans you would find the odd one with a shady past or undesirable views but would that lead you to wanting your club not to progress because of it?

Yes Ashton has peed of a lot of fans but wanting us not to be in the play offs because he invited a decisive figure to the club is ridiculous.
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:26 - Apr 25 with 1348 viewsSwansea_Blue

Facist is a bit overboard. More like grifting, racist cheats


The Farage link has annoyed me more than the whining about pens. You always get fans claiming other teams are getting the rub of the green while their side alone are being served injustices week after week. I’d ignore it. And the Farage links won’t stick, although we’re still waiting for a satisfactory end to that saga. I’ve no idea whether that means a genuine apology from Ashton or him moving on - I’m trying not to think about that while we’re trying to get promotion done and dusted.
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:37 - Apr 25 with 1276 viewswaveneyblue

Wow, what on earth has gone through your head to post this at 8 in the morning on a huge day for the club you claim you support.

We are now perceived as Fascist ?

By who ? You and a few on here who have the utter inability to disconnect somebody they despise with the club, purely because that person visited ONCE and milked it for publicity (in exactly the same way they milk every bloody situation).

Ironically, its you lot that are dragging the season down because of your petty hate campaign against a guy who has pretty much been a huge part of our recent incredible success.

Honestly what is the matter with you ?
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:41 - Apr 25 with 1240 viewsFtnfwest

I wouldn’t worry about it, everyone over 30 is considered a nazi these days whoever they support.
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:47 - Apr 25 with 1207 viewsLA_Tractor_Boy

Sorry, but you're talking nonsense.

Nobody outside Ipswich cares about the Farage thing. In fact, not many people even know about it. It was a stupid thing to do, even more stupid to lie about and I get that the sponsors aren't happy, but IMO it's a storm in a teacup.
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:47 - Apr 25 with 1201 viewsSomersetractor

Stop reading social media and enjoy yourself !!
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:53 - Apr 25 with 1158 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:26 - Apr 25 by blueprint

What a dramatic flounce over nothing.

Im sure if you dug deep into the lives of enough of your fellow Town fans you would find the odd one with a shady past or undesirable views but would that lead you to wanting your club not to progress because of it?

Yes Ashton has peed of a lot of fans but wanting us not to be in the play offs because he invited a decisive figure to the club is ridiculous.


Play offs!!
Wash your mouth out.

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:59 - Apr 25 with 1126 viewsTheBlueGnu

This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 08:54 - Apr 25 by SitfcB

What a load of ole shít.


total agree - a massive pile of excrement

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 10:32 - Apr 25 with 976 viewsFixed_It

This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 09:47 - Apr 25 by LA_Tractor_Boy

Sorry, but you're talking nonsense.

Nobody outside Ipswich cares about the Farage thing. In fact, not many people even know about it. It was a stupid thing to do, even more stupid to lie about and I get that the sponsors aren't happy, but IMO it's a storm in a teacup.


The wider football community are too busy being obsessed with our penalties tbh.

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 10:34 - Apr 25 with 969 viewsCheltenham_Blue

This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 10:32 - Apr 25 by Fixed_It

The wider football community are too busy being obsessed with our penalties tbh.


You wait til we get given one today and Hinchcliffe says it was given for a foul 6 inches outside the box.

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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 10:37 - Apr 25 with 946 viewsmrfixit426

Wut?
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 10:44 - Apr 25 with 894 viewsYallop2

Absolute nonsense
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This season has been a disaster (discuss) on 10:53 - Apr 25 with 850 viewswkj

I mean, dude - I'm not especially happy about Farage getting the red carpet, but the biggest issue is people are too set in their ways.

However, gone are the days that a nice family owns a football club and it takes skill in recruitment to have success. We now need stature and money to frontload everything. ITFC never sold their soul, football itself did that.

Also, "f" everyone else's perception of us. "Plucky Little Ipswich" and "Tractor Boys" were descriptors of us that were condescending head pats. Does being "loved" by everyone and the heroic underdog make up what the soul of our football club is? Not really. It's how we adapt and survive in the modern game.

However, Farage is a massive fanny.

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