| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from 18:32 - May 5 with 5352 views | John_Warks_Willy |
Ashton-gate.
I can see he cares for the club and still holds a bond with KM.
The guy was a ruddy tool for that episode, I was ruddy livid, but let’s get on with it.
Now where are the (non loan obligation) transfers Mark?????? Get a move on.*
*yes, I can see that yet another post on the subject brings it up. Again. But so what. [Post edited 5 May 18:34]
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:23 - May 5 with 1061 views | bluelagos |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:14 - May 5 by SuffolkPunchFC |
You’re surprised that Farage might lie? I’m not - although to be fair, the quotes I can find that are attributed to Farage only say that he said ‘they met to discuss the football regulator’. It is others that suggested/reported that both Farage & Ashton are against the regulator. I may have missed something though. |
I was quite clear in saying that Farage may have been less than honest!
But irrespective, the question remains unanswered as to what Farage and Ashton were discussing - given Farage is not in No 10 and is not a local MP. Ashton hasn't explained it (as far as I know) and I don't think it unreasonable that an explanation is given (Assuming it wasn't an intended Reform PR visit) especially given Farage's public opposition to the football regulator. |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:41 - May 5 with 1017 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:23 - May 5 by bluelagos |
I was quite clear in saying that Farage may have been less than honest!
But irrespective, the question remains unanswered as to what Farage and Ashton were discussing - given Farage is not in No 10 and is not a local MP. Ashton hasn't explained it (as far as I know) and I don't think it unreasonable that an explanation is given (Assuming it wasn't an intended Reform PR visit) especially given Farage's public opposition to the football regulator. |
My first sentence was intended to be light-hearted / ironic. Nothing more - just a reflection on Farage’s well known traits.
As to the rest of your reply, I’ve stayed out of that debate. I was only sharing information on Ashton’s declared position regarding the regulator, in reply to your question and belief that he objected to the regulator. [Post edited 5 May 21:43]
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:41 - May 5 with 1009 views | KBsSocks |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:20 - May 5 by waveneyblue |
Clearly there is no point trying to keep it civil, the downvotes and responses so far prove that.
This board is has descended into farce, so the only way of playing it, is to join in.
Such a shame |
Also Horlicks. |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 22:09 - May 5 with 964 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:20 - May 5 by waveneyblue |
Clearly there is no point trying to keep it civil, the downvotes and responses so far prove that.
This board is has descended into farce, so the only way of playing it, is to join in.
Such a shame |
Why do downvotes mean you cannot be civil? They indicate whether people who care enough agree or disagree. And, since there are only a few lunatics who don't agree with you and everyone else does, you should be basking in all your upvotes anyway.
And why don't you believe what members of Blue Action have stated about how Ashton behaved with them? You see determined to idolise the man and unable to accept any criticism of him. Why? |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 22:13 - May 5 with 960 views | Herbivore |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:02 - May 5 by waveneyblue |
Attempting to accept the views in your first paragraph (Im not sure how much truth there was in the Blue Action story) the utopia CEO/Chairman no longer exists in the modern football world. Certainly at the top end.
The second paragraph is rather silly, of course theres been mistakes, but weve achieved promotion at the first attempt. I struggle to find criticism in that basic fact.
In the third paragraph you are wanting sonething that simply wont happen. If/when Ashton goes, he will be replaced with someone very similar.
The days of the Cobbolds are long gone Im afraid.
Not saying its a good thing, its just fact.
Ive tried to be reasonable with my response, I hope its treated with similar replies |
Nobody is asking for utopia, just a chairman and CEO who genuinely cares about the fans and doesn't think he is the club. He's not the club, we will be here long after he's gone and he'd do well to remember that. You can dismiss and ignore evidence that supports my perception of his attitude if you want, you're free to do so, but please don't then accuse others of having an agenda.
The second paragraph isn't silly. And I'm not sure how much credit Ashton gets for this season, feels to me like this is on McKenna working miracles again. The recruitment has been bang average and the squad has been unbalanced in some areas for a good couple of years now. There are areas the club is not punching where it needs to be and that was brutally exposed last season and has been highlighted at times this season too. |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 23:43 - May 5 with 888 views | armchaircritic59 |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 20:25 - May 5 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Please do provide your evidence that the majority don't care what the club does other than regarding football. |
That would probably take me most of the summer break as I'd have to ask about 29,000 people individually, but I'd say if the season ticket take ups/sales remain constant, that's evidence enough. You can take my word on it or of course not. Which is of course your right to do so. For me I'm tired of hearing people wittering on about it. One thing you can do that you have the power to do, vote with your feet, or maybe more appropriately, wallet. |  | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 00:04 - May 6 with 876 views | reusersfreekicks |
Ashton out! |  | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 06:36 - May 6 with 844 views | Blue_Heath |
Agree, I didn't like it but we've got where we needed to be, in 10 years time no one will remember this. | |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 06:48 - May 6 with 836 views | Benters |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:20 - May 5 by waveneyblue |
Clearly there is no point trying to keep it civil, the downvotes and responses so far prove that.
This board is has descended into farce, so the only way of playing it, is to join in.
Such a shame |
Exactly.
Ashton in. |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 08:01 - May 6 with 800 views | GeoffSentence |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 20:52 - May 5 by bluelagos |
Now I'm proper confused as that doesn't sound like he's opposed to it at all. Wanting to influence the shape of it is perfectly reasonable.
Which begs the question, why did Farage say Ashton & the club were opposed to it? Was Farage being less than honest? Why would he lie about that? |
He didn't sound very supportive of it. He used a lot of words but the only ones that said anything meaningful were 'light touch'. Sounds like he's accepted that the regulator is here but wants it to keep out as much as possible. |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 08:15 - May 6 with 777 views | bluelagos |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 08:01 - May 6 by GeoffSentence |
He didn't sound very supportive of it. He used a lot of words but the only ones that said anything meaningful were 'light touch'. Sounds like he's accepted that the regulator is here but wants it to keep out as much as possible. |
I'm genuinely confused as to what the club and Ashton's position is tbh - here Phil states:
"Both Ashton and Farage were against the initiative."
Which if true is worrying - but the article doesn't elaborate... | |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 08:24 - May 6 with 758 views | Leaky |
Sorry but if you want to move on from this, why do you and others keep posting about it |  | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 08:25 - May 6 with 757 views | patrickswell |
I’ll be getting back on board and watching matches - on TV - next season. It’ll be a fresh page, clean slate etc. I suppose the reason why I distanced myself from watching the games from early April was the sense that regardless of whether we got promoted or not, Farage-gate would forever be associated with this season, in my mind. Even if next season turns out to be our equivalent of Derby Country circa 2007/08, at least it shouldn’t have the stench of what happened hanging off it - assuming that lessons have genuinely been learnt that is. [Post edited 6 May 8:34]
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 08:25 - May 6 with 748 views | Libero |
ASHTON OUT. |  | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 11:14 - May 6 with 681 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 06:48 - May 6 by Benters |
Exactly.
Ashton in. |
You misspelled Farage! |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 11:18 - May 6 with 674 views | BiGDonnie |
Good man. Keep in mind, it's a very small minority who want him out. He's here to stay, thankfully. |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 11:23 - May 6 with 671 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I'm pro ITFC, pro McKenna, pro the players & staff. Its those who deserve our support.
I'm anti Ashton. Both things can be true.
We were here a long time before him and will be a long time after he's gone (god willing). It's not Mark Ashton's club, he's an employee. I don't like him, I don't agree with his actions, I hate that he invited Farage in to use our proud club as a political football and the response and bare faced lies that followed are unforgivable. I think he's a pr1ck. |  | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 11:36 - May 6 with 657 views | grow_our_own |
We need fresh off-field leadership. In case this needed emphasising, yesterday it emerged that Ashton offered Akpom a three year deal aged 30 with obligation to sign for £7m even though he played few games this season. Ashton can't recruit. We need to match Kieran's on-field ability with high-quality management off it. If we had Brentford, Brighton, or Bournemouth's CEO, we'd achieve so much more. We could do so much better than Mark Ashton. | | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 12:10 - May 6 with 636 views | backwaywhen |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 20:30 - May 5 by NBVJohn |
I think he misguidedly saw an ally in the whole football regulator debate and the whole thing just got carried away.
As much as I despise Farage and Reform, it was the subsequent attempt at covering it up, and the perfunctory approach to an apology that upset me most.
The main reason he was celebrating so much on the bus yesterday was because he’s seen his salvation. He’s a lucky boy.
Shame that I can bear a grudge for years though! |
Sir Bobby fell out with and sold Billy Baxter back in the day which for some was unforgivable at the the time , guess what …….they forgave him !
Time is a great healer ….let it go now . | | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 12:12 - May 6 with 631 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 11:36 - May 6 by grow_our_own |
We need fresh off-field leadership. In case this needed emphasising, yesterday it emerged that Ashton offered Akpom a three year deal aged 30 with obligation to sign for £7m even though he played few games this season. Ashton can't recruit. We need to match Kieran's on-field ability with high-quality management off it. If we had Brentford, Brighton, or Bournemouth's CEO, we'd achieve so much more. We could do so much better than Mark Ashton. |
You're using the benefit of hindsight. When that deal was agreed we all expected Akpom to be a success and play loads of games. Ashton doesn't have a crystal ball, unfortunately. |  |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:40 - May 6 with 507 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 23:43 - May 5 by armchaircritic59 |
That would probably take me most of the summer break as I'd have to ask about 29,000 people individually, but I'd say if the season ticket take ups/sales remain constant, that's evidence enough. You can take my word on it or of course not. Which is of course your right to do so. For me I'm tired of hearing people wittering on about it. One thing you can do that you have the power to do, vote with your feet, or maybe more appropriately, wallet. |
I am quite sure there are people who feel fairly strongly that Ashton should go who will still go because they support the team. Ashton isn't the club.
Yes, we know already there are some who are so annoyed they won't set foot in the place or buy any merchandise until he is gone.
But attendance alone won't tell you the numbers who want him gone nor the numbers who want him to stay.
It clearly remains a highly divisive issue that will only be resolved once he has gone. | |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 06:44 - May 7 with 431 views | noggin |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 11:23 - May 6 by _CliveBaker_ |
I'm pro ITFC, pro McKenna, pro the players & staff. Its those who deserve our support.
I'm anti Ashton. Both things can be true.
We were here a long time before him and will be a long time after he's gone (god willing). It's not Mark Ashton's club, he's an employee. I don't like him, I don't agree with his actions, I hate that he invited Farage in to use our proud club as a political football and the response and bare faced lies that followed are unforgivable. I think he's a pr1ck. |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 06:52 - May 7 with 413 views | Benters |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 11:14 - May 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You misspelled Farage! |
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| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 07:34 - May 7 with 386 views | boysof1981 |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 20:35 - May 5 by Herbivore |
I still want him gone. The original act was bad, but the lying to make out it was an innocent mistake when there was evidently a lot more to it, followed by a really weak apology, for me he treated the fans with a lot of disrespect. Then there's the Blue Action stuff which shows a similar disregard for the fans, the hiking of ST prices two years in a row, and for all the rhetoric about the fans being the life blood of the club, I think it's clear they aren't his main priority. The football regulator stuff kind of backs that up too.
That's before getting into the egotistical stuff, putting himself front and centre of every success and distancing himself from any failures. The increasingly patchy record of delivering genuine success as we've gone up the levels (our last really outstanding transfer window was January 2023 you could argue, summer 2023 not bad but not the kind of dazzling business we were promised).
Is he someone to lead a club once run by the Cobbolds as a big family? Does he have the integrity of managers like Robson, Ramsay, and even McKenna? Not for me, Clive. |
Apart from the Farage stuff, which I couldn’t care less about I agree with the rest.
Personally for me, I’ve never taken to him since the running up the touchline like he’s a player from a few seasons ago, and as you say his recent transfer business looks like he’s thrown away millions.
Also thought it unnecessary the comments on the parade, if hes not booted he needs someone in alongside him to curb his narcissism. | | | |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 08:03 - May 7 with 370 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| My two cents worth, for what it matters…..I’m moving on from on 21:40 - May 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I am quite sure there are people who feel fairly strongly that Ashton should go who will still go because they support the team. Ashton isn't the club.
Yes, we know already there are some who are so annoyed they won't set foot in the place or buy any merchandise until he is gone.
But attendance alone won't tell you the numbers who want him gone nor the numbers who want him to stay.
It clearly remains a highly divisive issue that will only be resolved once he has gone. |
"Some won't set foot in the ground or buy merchandise until he is gone"
Good on them for being principled, but I fear that their actions won't really make an impression next season, as we are Premier League again. There will be plenty of others who will fill the gap.
For what it's worth, I really don't like how Ashton acted, but I'm savvy enough to know that protests won't make a difference, as the vast majority are 'over it'.
For that reason, I'll just move on.
The Ashton Out protests have just become an irritation, as there isn't and never will be enough traction to make the point meaningfully.
I actually put someone on ignore today, because they have simply resorted to just 'Ashton Out' posts on everything mildly related to him and don't offer any comments of substance anymore. You have to ask if that person has become a bit obsessed about the issue.... [Post edited 7 May 8:06]
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