| Initial analysis of the current heatwave 08:06 - Jun 26 with 10858 views | StokieBlue |
Scientists have said that the current heatwave stretching across Europe would have been impossible in June without climate change and is also hitting hard as the weather is more humid than normal.
"As recently as 2003, a heatwave like the current one in Europe would have been 2C cooler due to the lower level of global heating at the time. In 1976, another famous heatwave year, it would have been 3.5C cooler."
"The sweltering night-time temperatures currently harming people’s sleep are about 100 times more likely today than in 2003."
https://www.theguardian.com/en
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:18 - Jun 26 with 965 views | positivity |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:11 - Jun 26 by Ryorry |
He jokes about it, I don't see that as being a climate change denier. People deal with threats in different ways.
I'm pretty dang certain he does have awareness of critical environmental matters. [Post edited 26 Jun 18:13]
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you give him far too much credit, he's always happy to fall in line with whichever conspiracy theory elon/rupert/nigel are pushing towards him.
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:23 - Jun 26 with 955 views | Dubtractor |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:11 - Jun 26 by Ryorry |
He jokes about it, I don't see that as being a climate change denier. People deal with threats in different ways.
I'm pretty dang certain he does have awareness of critical environmental matters. [Post edited 26 Jun 18:13]
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People seem determined to make excuses on benters behalf, but when someone repeatedly tells you what they believe, it's better to understand that to be the case than kid yourself that it's an act of some sort.
The other week J2 was convinced that benters didn't actually support Farage/reform.
Benters is entitled to believe and say what he wants by the way, but I don't get why people seem inclined to think its just an act. |  |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:29 - Jun 26 with 931 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 14:04 - Jun 26 by positivity |
none of us are perfect, which means that all of us can improve.
it's fine to raise suggestions which may change behaviour in a positive way |
It's fine to raise suggestions, it's just the condescending way he does it.
"Yet people continue to eat the flesh of dead animals because it tastes nice. I wonder how many people who claim to be concerned about climate change refuse to make such a simple sacrifice of changing what they put in their mouths?"
He (recently) gave up meat and now thinks he can talk down to those who haven't, despite adding to the C02 in other ways the rest of us don't. |  |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:34 - Jun 26 with 926 views | eireblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 11:04 - Jun 26 by Guthrum |
We simply wouldn't breed them. Farmers aren't going to keep expensive herds and flocks with no demand. Not to mention the cost of shipping carcasses around the globe.
A bigger issue is where we are going to grow all the vegetable matter required to feed the global population. |
You are usually better than this, and have good sensible research.
There is research that the U.K. would be food secure, on a vegan diet.
Farming produces more calories per hectare, and protein per hectare, using arable rather than animal farming. |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 18:35 - Jun 26 with 922 views | nrb1985 |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:02 - Jun 26 by Ryorry |
Why on earth some of you take him seriously I don't know. You perfectly correctly called him "a professional windup merchant". Yes, he is, he just goes round puncturing balloons. Makes me laugh.
Thing is, when it's done by those to left of centre politically, it's called 'bantz' & gets uppies (or at least is ignored/tolerated as maybe a silly joke). When it's from a political right-winger, it garners insults & opprobrium from multiple people. As for insults about his butts, to me his long-standing dedication to conserving water shows an excellent awareness of environmental matters, as does his gardening work & knowledge. |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:38 - Jun 26 with 905 views | eireblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:11 - Jun 26 by Ryorry |
He jokes about it, I don't see that as being a climate change denier. People deal with threats in different ways.
I'm pretty dang certain he does have awareness of critical environmental matters. [Post edited 26 Jun 18:13]
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He has denied it in the past.
He has to.
It is Reform policy, and Nige said so. | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:52 - Jun 26 with 869 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
But Santon Downham finishes fast up the rails at 37.3 |  |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:59 - Jun 26 with 849 views | NthQldITFC |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:52 - Jun 26 by BanksterDebtSlave |
But Santon Downham finishes fast up the rails at 37.3 |
Suffolk rocks. |  |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 19:35 - Jun 26 with 804 views | Guthrum |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:34 - Jun 26 by eireblue |
You are usually better than this, and have good sensible research.
There is research that the U.K. would be food secure, on a vegan diet.
Farming produces more calories per hectare, and protein per hectare, using arable rather than animal farming. |
The UK quite likely would be, in isolation. This country is very well supplied with climate, terrain and soils for arable farming. I was talking on a global scale. Many other places are not so favourably positioned.
It's why western Europe, eastern China, India's great river valleys and Mesopotamia (with irrigation) were agricultural powerhouses in the ancient and medieval worlds, while a lot of Africa, the Americas and much of Asia weren't. |  |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 19:57 - Jun 26 with 784 views | Dubtractor |
This feels like the right place to share this. Definitely no influence on their policies, I'm sure.
https://www.desmog.com/2026/04 [Post edited 26 Jun 23:34]
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 20:20 - Jun 26 with 752 views | eireblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 19:35 - Jun 26 by Guthrum |
The UK quite likely would be, in isolation. This country is very well supplied with climate, terrain and soils for arable farming. I was talking on a global scale. Many other places are not so favourably positioned.
It's why western Europe, eastern China, India's great river valleys and Mesopotamia (with irrigation) were agricultural powerhouses in the ancient and medieval worlds, while a lot of Africa, the Americas and much of Asia weren't. |
Location doesn’t change the physics. Plants produce more calories per hectare than animals.
Using the U.K. is useful since we are a compact island nation, that according to some is full up.
A small, full island, can still sustain itself.
The world wide picture, it is more obvious that the population could be fed on a plant based diet.
Beef for instance is 1% energy efficient, “ it takes almost 50 to 100 times as much land to produce a gram of protein from beef or lamb, versus peas or tofu.”
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 20:20 - Jun 26 with 750 views | NthQldITFC |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 19:57 - Jun 26 by Dubtractor |
This feels like the right place to share this. Definitely no influence on their policies, I'm sure.
https://www.desmog.com/2026/04 [Post edited 26 Jun 23:34]
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Does that include the bent £5,000,000 crypto bung that Far*ge trousered directly or is it just fossil fuel lobbying straight into Ref*rm's varied accounts? | |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 20:32 - Jun 26 with 729 views | StokieBlue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:29 - Jun 26 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's fine to raise suggestions, it's just the condescending way he does it.
"Yet people continue to eat the flesh of dead animals because it tastes nice. I wonder how many people who claim to be concerned about climate change refuse to make such a simple sacrifice of changing what they put in their mouths?"
He (recently) gave up meat and now thinks he can talk down to those who haven't, despite adding to the C02 in other ways the rest of us don't. |
This is absolutely correct. I was going to point out how aggressive he was being given his other emissions which are far larger but I assumed it would start a fight.
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 20:42 - Jun 26 with 706 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:11 - Jun 26 by Ryorry |
He jokes about it, I don't see that as being a climate change denier. People deal with threats in different ways.
I'm pretty dang certain he does have awareness of critical environmental matters. [Post edited 26 Jun 18:13]
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Yeah that's nonsense |  | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:24 - Jun 26 with 660 views | Bigalhunter |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 20:32 - Jun 26 by StokieBlue |
This is absolutely correct. I was going to point out how aggressive he was being given his other emissions which are far larger but I assumed it would start a fight.
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Challenge this latest approach and you’d just end up on the ever-increasing, fingers in ears, ignore list.
He’s chosen to create an echo chamber of those who aren’t aware of the long-term, utter hypocrisy, not confident enough to challenge it or just perfectly content to bask in the faux bonhomie of obedient compliance… |  |
| It used to great on here when people let me say whatever I wanted and giggled along - (Rough translation of post from un-named TWTD contributor, 2026) | | Poll: | September 2025. Which one? |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:29 - Jun 26 with 649 views | Benters |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:07 - Jun 26 by positivity |
a conspiracy theorist climate change denier has zero awareness of critical environmental matters!
all the water butts in the world won't solve this crisis |
Every little helps not only that rain water is much better for the plants than water from the tap,and it’s free! |  |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:33 - Jun 26 with 639 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:29 - Jun 26 by Benters |
Every little helps not only that rain water is much better for the plants than water from the tap,and it’s free! |
Every little helps with what? |  | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:34 - Jun 26 with 633 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:23 - Jun 26 by Dubtractor |
People seem determined to make excuses on benters behalf, but when someone repeatedly tells you what they believe, it's better to understand that to be the case than kid yourself that it's an act of some sort.
The other week J2 was convinced that benters didn't actually support Farage/reform.
Benters is entitled to believe and say what he wants by the way, but I don't get why people seem inclined to think its just an act. |
The other thing is, even if it were just trolling from Benters, there are 100s of thousands of voters out there who do genuinely hold the opinions that Benters shares.
To think that isn't the case is the ultimate in burying your head in the sand. |  |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:37 - Jun 26 with 616 views | Benters |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:33 - Jun 26 by Axeldalai_lama |
Every little helps with what? |
Every little drop of water saved in a bucket or butt what do you think? | |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:56 - Jun 26 with 586 views | eireblue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 20:32 - Jun 26 by StokieBlue |
This is absolutely correct. I was going to point out how aggressive he was being given his other emissions which are far larger but I assumed it would start a fight.
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I have had plenty of civil conversations with people over this topic.
The science is clear.
Plant based diets do less damage to the environment and climate.
Anyone can post stats on how bad things are going, or how ridiculous Reform are for scrapping Net Zero and wanting to burn more fuel.
You could be vegan tomorrow. | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 22:13 - Jun 26 with 565 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:37 - Jun 26 by Benters |
Every little drop of water saved in a bucket or butt what do you think? |
Genuine question.
In view of the evidence scientifically, my own observations regarding the flora and fauna and the fact that these extreme heat events are becoming increasingly frequent over the past decade or so, are you of the opinion that this is a real problem for mankind and the planet or do you think that this is not an actual concern and all is tickety boo? |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 22:25 - Jun 26 with 546 views | positivity |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:29 - Jun 26 by Benters |
Every little helps not only that rain water is much better for the plants than water from the tap,and it’s free! |
what has that got to do with your climate denial?
water butts won't save the planet when the tipping points gb tried to educate you about are reached.
the only things that will is drastically cutting fossil fuel use, eating less meat, flying less etc. a true patriot would want these things to save britain.
traitors like your believed nige & rupe want to see britain fail | |
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 23:11 - Jun 26 with 494 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 21:37 - Jun 26 by Benters |
Every little drop of water saved in a bucket or butt what do you think? |
You responded that every little helps to a statement about water butts and the climate crisis. So you believe we need to help with the climate crisis? You believe there is s climate crisis? | | | |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 00:16 - Jun 27 with 447 views | StokieBlue |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 10:18 - Jun 26 by GlasgowBlue |
I’m not sure who is worse. Climate change deniers or people who believe in the science but ignore it to satisfy the tastebuds. |
I find it incredible that this morning you aggressively posted this at a forum member because they eat meat and thus have higher emissions than they could have and then in the evening you're on a long haul flight.
I find it doubly incredible because the poster you were directing this post at has I believe on many occasions said he doesn't take holidays that involve flying.
Given both those things and assuming you're flight is return then your individual emissions even with your vegetarianism are likely already higher than his.
The double standard is staggering to me.
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| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 03:16 - Jun 27 with 377 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Initial analysis of the current heatwave on 18:34 - Jun 26 by eireblue |
You are usually better than this, and have good sensible research.
There is research that the U.K. would be food secure, on a vegan diet.
Farming produces more calories per hectare, and protein per hectare, using arable rather than animal farming. |
But a lot of UK upland farms which currently hold sheep are unsuitable for arable production.
It's not as simple as saying "Switch all land currently given over to livestock to arable production" because grass will grow in places wheat can't, and sheep can go places that combine harvesters can't. | | | |
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