| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen 10:35 - Jul 6 with 6924 views | unstableblue |
Firstly you can argue he wasn’t looking at where he was landing his foot, but it’s a miracle the ankle isnt broken, it’s his full force, its dangerous. Even if it’s harsh it’s a red card offence.
If it had been a major error, there had been minimal contact or the defender had instigated the contact - well even then you don’t overturn it. There are no rules of precedent.
But this is Trumps America, its corruption at the top of government and rule of law is falling apart.
This past week he’s trying to sentence someone with trumped up charges about damaging his reflecting pool debacle, and is lying through his teeth about the success of his disastrous state fair!
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:43 - Jul 6 with 3462 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
Sycophantino has to go. He's worse than Blatter. |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:46 - Jul 6 with 3419 views | unstableblue |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:43 - Jul 6 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Sycophantino has to go. He's worse than Blatter. |
That peace prize for the President who renamed his defence department the department of war… and who instigated the hapless Iran War that has no end in sight
World needs to stand up this bollo@x
Replacing the head of FIFA a small step, but needs doing | |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:48 - Jul 6 with 3389 views | ElderGrizzly |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:43 - Jul 6 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Sycophantino has to go. He's worse than Blatter. |
Even Blatter thinks FIFA are corrupt
Oh and FIFA have said Belgium can appeal their decision
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:51 - Jul 6 with 3354 views | farkenhell |
The decision is a sham and a fraud. And what is the 12 months suspension all about? |  | | |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:51 - Jul 6 with 3358 views | Coastalblue |
One of the State Fair pictures I saw was hilarious, it was of the band playing on stage accompanied by some noise about what an incredible event it was.
Somebody had zoomed in on the guitarist's glasses where reflecting in them was an image of a largely empty field. |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:56 - Jul 6 with 3311 views | Blue_In_Boston |
The Trump intervention is wrong but the outcome is right. It was never a red card in the first place.
How can you go up for a header, watch the ball, the movement of your team mates and be certain where your foot will land when you are being buffeted by a defender? If that is a red then challenging in an aerial duel is finished. | | | |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:59 - Jul 6 with 3252 views | Coastalblue |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:56 - Jul 6 by Blue_In_Boston |
The Trump intervention is wrong but the outcome is right. It was never a red card in the first place.
How can you go up for a header, watch the ball, the movement of your team mates and be certain where your foot will land when you are being buffeted by a defender? If that is a red then challenging in an aerial duel is finished. |
It's a red card if the on field officials decide it is, at least it should be anyway. | |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:03 - Jul 6 with 3219 views | Meadowlark |
Too late. "We" are complicit in this. The time to protest was when the USA was awarded the competition and started moving the goalposts. Our FA and others should have boycotted the tournament.
We can of course still protest and sign petitions, but we know what little effect they will have on a corrupt organisation and nation. |  | | |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:03 - Jul 6 with 3206 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:59 - Jul 6 by Coastalblue |
It's a red card if the on field officials decide it is, at least it should be anyway. |
Notably the red card has not been overturned... They have just used a general FIFA governance rule to suspend, in direct contradiction of the explicit tournament rules.
So it's not been justified on the basis of the decision being wrong. They haven't given a reason. | |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:04 - Jul 6 with 3204 views | pointofblue |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:59 - Jul 6 by Coastalblue |
It's a red card if the on field officials decide it is, at least it should be anyway. |
Unless it's appealed and the appeal is won via the official process. Not this bizarre "suspended" punishment they've come up with. | |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:04 - Jul 6 with 3203 views | eirannach_gorm |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:43 - Jul 6 by Tangledupin_Blue |
Sycophantino has to go. He's worse than Blatter. |
Not good when Sepp does not like it.
Missed previous post. [Post edited 6 Jul 11:06]
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:25 - Jul 6 with 3102 views | eirannach_gorm |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:56 - Jul 6 by Blue_In_Boston |
The Trump intervention is wrong but the outcome is right. It was never a red card in the first place.
How can you go up for a header, watch the ball, the movement of your team mates and be certain where your foot will land when you are being buffeted by a defender? If that is a red then challenging in an aerial duel is finished. |
I'm assuming the same applies to tackling in general or when a player slips and takes down another player through on goal as the last man back. Some red cards are unlucky but it was given as a red card and is still a red card under this ruling. I am not sure the suspended sentence has a place in football. This Trump world cup has brought in some unsavory practices with FIFA. This particular ruling was enabled after Ronaldo's red in Dublin.
https://sports.yahoo.com/artic | | | |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:31 - Jul 6 with 3024 views | bsw72 |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:56 - Jul 6 by Blue_In_Boston |
The Trump intervention is wrong but the outcome is right. It was never a red card in the first place.
How can you go up for a header, watch the ball, the movement of your team mates and be certain where your foot will land when you are being buffeted by a defender? If that is a red then challenging in an aerial duel is finished. |
You've missed the point - it would almost be better if FIFA had rescinded the red card and acknowledged it was an error - which they can't technically do as there is no right to appeal in a world cup.
The issue is they haven't done that, they have used a vaguely worded part of their rule book to bypass the WC rules and then not given any reasons as to why. |  | | |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:31 - Jul 6 with 3023 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Its a joke. Aside from the how and why its been done, it was a red card offence. If it were a case of mistaken identity or something I'd understand it, but this is a ludicrous decision. I hope Belgium batter them. |  | | |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:37 - Jul 6 with 2975 views | ElderGrizzly |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 11:31 - Jul 6 by bsw72 |
You've missed the point - it would almost be better if FIFA had rescinded the red card and acknowledged it was an error - which they can't technically do as there is no right to appeal in a world cup.
The issue is they haven't done that, they have used a vaguely worded part of their rule book to bypass the WC rules and then not given any reasons as to why. |
UEFA calling it out as corrupt too
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:38 - Jul 6 with 2708 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Have you got a clip of the tackle? |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:44 - Jul 6 with 2672 views | Samuelowen88 |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:38 - Jul 6 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Have you got a clip of the tackle? |
https://youtube.com/shorts/aYE |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:51 - Jul 6 with 2626 views | Trequartista |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:56 - Jul 6 by Blue_In_Boston |
The Trump intervention is wrong but the outcome is right. It was never a red card in the first place.
How can you go up for a header, watch the ball, the movement of your team mates and be certain where your foot will land when you are being buffeted by a defender? If that is a red then challenging in an aerial duel is finished. |
It's totally irrelevant, I'm not even going to re-watch the clip, there is no process to re-instate him. |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:56 - Jul 6 with 2535 views | hoppy |
Have you got a clip of the Quansa one, as from memory, that wasn’t as bad a challenge as this, and similarly didn’t look deliberate - if that’s the basis the suspended punishment has been based on? |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:58 - Jul 6 with 2509 views | lowhouseblue |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:51 - Jul 6 by Trequartista |
It's totally irrelevant, I'm not even going to re-watch the clip, there is no process to re-instate him. |
that must be right.
but having seen it, it's an arguable red, but certainly it was no where near a decision that no reasonable person could have reached. indeed the ref and var officials are by fifa's own definition reasonable. so it doesn't get anywhere close to the sort of indefensible decision where an exceptional intervention stepping outside of the normal processes could at any possible stretch of the imagination be defended. there isn't a rational explanation for what has happened now other than corruption. |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:58 - Jul 6 with 2512 views | Samuelowen88 |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:56 - Jul 6 by hoppy |
Have you got a clip of the Quansa one, as from memory, that wasn’t as bad a challenge as this, and similarly didn’t look deliberate - if that’s the basis the suspended punishment has been based on? |
Apologies for the Voice Over, but a good clip
https://youtube.com/shorts/w19 | |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:59 - Jul 6 with 2504 views | Ryorry |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 12:56 - Jul 6 by hoppy |
Have you got a clip of the Quansa one, as from memory, that wasn’t as bad a challenge as this, and similarly didn’t look deliberate - if that’s the basis the suspended punishment has been based on? |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/fo |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 13:02 - Jul 6 with 2465 views | NthQldITFC |
People saying that's not a red are naive imho.
He knows where the player is, he knows he's not going to get to the ball and, though it may be out of his line of sight he knows he's landed on the player's ankle. He doesn't pull away (bend his knee) at that point but allows the rest of his weight to transfer onto the ankle.
Slowed down and out of line of sight or not, he knows what he's doing there. |  |
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| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 13:08 - Jul 6 with 2400 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 13:02 - Jul 6 by NthQldITFC |
People saying that's not a red are naive imho.
He knows where the player is, he knows he's not going to get to the ball and, though it may be out of his line of sight he knows he's landed on the player's ankle. He doesn't pull away (bend his knee) at that point but allows the rest of his weight to transfer onto the ankle.
Slowed down and out of line of sight or not, he knows what he's doing there. |
Looked at balogun again. Absolutely clear red . He is stretching in with feet through the back of the opponent. Whether the outcome was intended or not, it was clearly an intentional physical challenge. Get that wrong and it's a foul. He got it very wrong. Red all day | |
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| Well they just had a Premier League ref on Five Live state it’s a red on 13:09 - Jul 6 with 2388 views | unstableblue |
| This Trump intervention on the Balagun red card cannot be allowed to happen on 10:56 - Jul 6 by Blue_In_Boston |
The Trump intervention is wrong but the outcome is right. It was never a red card in the first place.
How can you go up for a header, watch the ball, the movement of your team mates and be certain where your foot will land when you are being buffeted by a defender? If that is a red then challenging in an aerial duel is finished. |
Excessive force endangering a player
But of course in some ways that’s not the main point. There is no precedent here.
It’s outrageous | |
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