| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United 12:24 - Sep 23 with 5055 views | ITFC_Essex |
According to a few Manchester United facebook pages our fans are reacting to. Wouldn't surprise me if they were already holding talks about Carrick, but that Manchester United side, bar a couple of stars, isn't very good and a change of manager won't do much for them. It's McKenna's dream job, so nothing against him taking it, and if anything by leaving us early we have actually been able to get our house in order rather than scraping around in the season trying to find a boss.
It's interesting that our support is excited about the £8mil compensation though, even though that sort of money in 2026 gets you a George Hirst. Not really the sort of money worth losing your first class manager over, which begs the question, why are managerial compensations so low compared to fees these days? They don't seem to have caught up with the market. |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:31 - Sep 23 with 4102 views | Guthrum |
As I understand it, compensation to clubs for managers cannot be amortised over several seasons like a player transfer fee. Therefore it's a single big lump on the accounts, not a series of moderate expenses. |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:32 - Sep 23 with 4088 views | EdwardStone |
I think the World of KMcK and I wish him the very best
But if he got burnt out through the stress of managing ITFC I suggest that the pressure and level of expectation at ManU would be a great deal more
I'm not sure this would be the ideal job for him at this moment |  | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:34 - Sep 23 with 4048 views | Ftnfwest |
If they ditch Carrick at this point i'd suggest Kieran's the last manager they'd replace him with. Maybe in the future but not now. |  | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:35 - Sep 23 with 4044 views | TripSwitch |
If it does happen, I'd be pleased for him, however unpopular opinion as it may be, I think that if hes to take the job at this point kn his career he will tank at Man U. Needs to take another job as a stepping stone to gain experience, just like Eddie Howe did from Bournemouth to Newcastle.
As it stands now i just dont see him being versatile enough, only one way of playing etc, and if he struggled with the pressure at Ipswich last season how is he going to cope at one of the biggest clubs in the world? [Post edited 23 Sep 12:36]
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:35 - Sep 23 with 4047 views | jayessess |
Would be surprised if Manchester United's next appointment was an up-and-comer like McKenna.
Management appointments are often a reaction to the last guy and McKenna would seen as too much like Carrick in profile. |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:42 - Sep 23 with 3936 views | bsw72 |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:35 - Sep 23 by jayessess |
Would be surprised if Manchester United's next appointment was an up-and-comer like McKenna.
Management appointments are often a reaction to the last guy and McKenna would seen as too much like Carrick in profile. |
Since Ferguson, United have tried PL / Euro League experienced with Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and gone continental "up and comer" with Rangnick, ten Haag and Amorim, plus the "young and knows the club" like Solskjaer and Carrick.
Not sure what is left to try . . . maybe the problem sits elsewhere. |  | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:44 - Sep 23 with 3901 views | bsw72 |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:31 - Sep 23 by Guthrum |
As I understand it, compensation to clubs for managers cannot be amortised over several seasons like a player transfer fee. Therefore it's a single big lump on the accounts, not a series of moderate expenses. |
It potentially opens up option for a £35M player and wages in Jan on a 5 year contract with low impact on SCR . . . | | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:49 - Sep 23 with 3847 views | SaleAway |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:42 - Sep 23 by bsw72 |
Since Ferguson, United have tried PL / Euro League experienced with Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and gone continental "up and comer" with Rangnick, ten Haag and Amorim, plus the "young and knows the club" like Solskjaer and Carrick.
Not sure what is left to try . . . maybe the problem sits elsewhere. |
Talking of the problem lying elsewhere... I was thinking the other day about Utd's recruitment, and over the last 10 years, I was trying to think of anyone that had left Utd and gone on to have a more successful career. The obvious one is Scott McTominay, but of course, he'd been at the club since he was 5, so his "recruitment" pre-dates the Utd banter years...
I really struggled to think of anyone.... perhaps this is more the issue, that over the last 10 years, they really really haven't bought well... |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:00 - Sep 23 with 3727 views | tractorboy1978 |
Probably because most of the time managers have no resale value, are sacked and the average shelf life of a manager is less than 2 years. | | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:03 - Sep 23 with 3674 views | BseaBlue |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:35 - Sep 23 by jayessess |
Would be surprised if Manchester United's next appointment was an up-and-comer like McKenna.
Management appointments are often a reaction to the last guy and McKenna would seen as too much like Carrick in profile. |
Quite agree. Especially when Eddie Howe is available as well. |  | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:07 - Sep 23 with 3621 views | NthQldITFC |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:34 - Sep 23 by Ftnfwest |
If they ditch Carrick at this point i'd suggest Kieran's the last manager they'd replace him with. Maybe in the future but not now. |
Quite so. Wind up. |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:09 - Sep 23 with 3576 views | Churchman |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:32 - Sep 23 by EdwardStone |
I think the World of KMcK and I wish him the very best
But if he got burnt out through the stress of managing ITFC I suggest that the pressure and level of expectation at ManU would be a great deal more
I'm not sure this would be the ideal job for him at this moment |
Agree entirely. The trouble is, it’s his and many others dream job. If he gets the chance, he has to take it.
Anyway, up to him. If he gets the job or any other, good luck to him. |  | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:10 - Sep 23 with 3561 views | little_boy_blue |
It was sad to see Kieran McKenna go, but he has, and I can only wish him the best. He did a lot for us, more than I had hoped, for which I will always be very grateful. | | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:12 - Sep 23 with 3525 views | Metal_Hacker |
Can't see it personally all things being equal
I truly believe they'll push the boat out this time and get Big Sam |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:26 - Sep 23 with 3349 views | OldFart71 |
It wasn't that long ago that Utd were if not the biggest club in the world certainly in the top three.
I'm not sure that situation still exists. Old Trafford is exactly that OLD. No longer the theatre of dreams, more the theatre of nightmares.
I would suggest that players like Tielemans aren't of the quality Utd need.
Whether it is correct that KM would go to Utd should he be given the job. It is a poison chalice. Since Fergie left if KM took over including interim managers he would be the 11th manager in 13 years. That is truly disastrous for any club and a wake up call for anyone considering taking over should Carrick get the heave-ho. | | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:29 - Sep 23 with 3306 views | Garv |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:42 - Sep 23 by bsw72 |
Since Ferguson, United have tried PL / Euro League experienced with Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho and gone continental "up and comer" with Rangnick, ten Haag and Amorim, plus the "young and knows the club" like Solskjaer and Carrick.
Not sure what is left to try . . . maybe the problem sits elsewhere. |
Don't think there is anything left, but half of it is about optics. McKenna would indeed be viewed only as a slightly better Carrick. |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:32 - Sep 23 with 3250 views | Garv |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:35 - Sep 23 by TripSwitch |
If it does happen, I'd be pleased for him, however unpopular opinion as it may be, I think that if hes to take the job at this point kn his career he will tank at Man U. Needs to take another job as a stepping stone to gain experience, just like Eddie Howe did from Bournemouth to Newcastle.
As it stands now i just dont see him being versatile enough, only one way of playing etc, and if he struggled with the pressure at Ipswich last season how is he going to cope at one of the biggest clubs in the world? [Post edited 23 Sep 12:36]
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:41 - Sep 23 with 3171 views | franz_tyson |
I would think they would go for a big name or an older coach.. Why McKenna? He's kind of a similar coach to Carrick.... background-wise. Doesn't make sense.
Surely Kieran is better of with a step by step approach. Mid-table prem team before a move to a top six club. And Man U is an oil tanker still trying to turn around. | | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:51 - Sep 23 with 3057 views | J2BLUE |
McKenna who showed nothing but class every time he spoke here has agreed to take over Man U while one of his best friends is currently in the job?
Holding talks with them while stabbing his friend in the back?
Not at all in line with his character. |  | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 14:11 - Sep 23 with 2883 views | FrimleyBlue |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 13:51 - Sep 23 by J2BLUE |
McKenna who showed nothing but class every time he spoke here has agreed to take over Man U while one of his best friends is currently in the job?
Holding talks with them while stabbing his friend in the back?
Not at all in line with his character. |
His representatives however didn't show the same level of 'class' so wouldn't be surprised if they are speaking with Utd. |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 14:21 - Sep 23 with 2819 views | ITFC_Essex |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:31 - Sep 23 by Guthrum |
As I understand it, compensation to clubs for managers cannot be amortised over several seasons like a player transfer fee. Therefore it's a single big lump on the accounts, not a series of moderate expenses. |
I can understand that element, but you'd think a top coach would command a little more of a lump sum? | |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 14:24 - Sep 23 with 2790 views | ITFC_Essex |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 14:11 - Sep 23 by FrimleyBlue |
His representatives however didn't show the same level of 'class' so wouldn't be surprised if they are speaking with Utd. |
It's sort of an agent's duty to do these things, no point getting upset about it in the mercenary world of football. If there was a sniff at a top job, with generational wealth attached, even for failure, they are employed to find those opportunities. | |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 14:35 - Sep 23 with 2710 views | Bluemike31 |
A poison chalice of a job which could well see the ruining of him. | | | |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 14:53 - Sep 23 with 2583 views | Cafe_Newman |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 12:49 - Sep 23 by SaleAway |
Talking of the problem lying elsewhere... I was thinking the other day about Utd's recruitment, and over the last 10 years, I was trying to think of anyone that had left Utd and gone on to have a more successful career. The obvious one is Scott McTominay, but of course, he'd been at the club since he was 5, so his "recruitment" pre-dates the Utd banter years...
I really struggled to think of anyone.... perhaps this is more the issue, that over the last 10 years, they really really haven't bought well... |
They could have bought better, that's for sure. But an even bigger problem for them is that they haven't sold well. Not only have they bought badly, they recoup peanuts when they sell their duds. If you have success upon success, year after year that's not a biggy, but when the trophies dry up you get hit very badly. |  |
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| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 15:29 - Sep 23 with 2406 views | BseaBlue |
| McKenna fully recovered and ready to take over Manchester United on 14:53 - Sep 23 by Cafe_Newman |
They could have bought better, that's for sure. But an even bigger problem for them is that they haven't sold well. Not only have they bought badly, they recoup peanuts when they sell their duds. If you have success upon success, year after year that's not a biggy, but when the trophies dry up you get hit very badly. |
Yeah definitely a case of both. Look at some of these signings:
- Van De Beek - £35 mill paid - £420k received
- Sancho - £75 mill paid - released on a free
- Antony - £85 mill paid - £19 mill received
- Casemiro - £60 mill paid - released on a free
- Hoijlund - £72 mill paid - £38 mill received
- Onana - £43 mill paid - Bombed out on loan
Pretty mental that they have made people redundant and cut costs back from food for staff etc when they have pi55ed that much money away on incredibly poor business. | | | |
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