| Anybody else encountered this? 19:10 - Jun 17 with 4259 views | factual_blue |
A friend we hadn't seen since before lockdown was telling us that in the organisation she used to work for, employees are now told that, after their name on an e-mail, they now have to indicate which are the appropriate pronouns to use when addressing them.
So Facters (he/him), Mrs Facters (she/her), Footers (it).
True story.
The organisation is A Major Professional Organisation. |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:14 - Jun 17 with 2878 views | FPL_Tractor |
I’ve seen people who have chosen to do this, for instance people with unisex names, but not seen it mandated. |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:18 - Jun 17 with 2840 views | Rocky |
Shouldn't there be an option for he/she? |  | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:18 - Jun 17 with 2836 views | MattinLondon |
Think on sites like Twitter it’s common to see this - could be wrong.
On the surface it seems a bit silly but I guess if a person wishes to be referred to as ‘they’ then it’s only polite to do so. |  | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:28 - Jun 17 with 2743 views | giant_stow |
I noticed this in a zoom meeting the other day and wondered if the system was having a techy burp. The bloke on the other end worked for a small left wing org so think he might have chosen to do this in solidarity. |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:31 - Jun 17 with 2722 views | hoppy |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:28 - Jun 17 by giant_stow |
I noticed this in a zoom meeting the other day and wondered if the system was having a techy burp. The bloke on the other end worked for a small left wing org so think he might have chosen to do this in solidarity. |
Don’t most of yours just say (brother) or (sister) alongside their names? |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:41 - Jun 17 with 2656 views | WicklowBlue |
The company I work promotes this too, its a key part of us all being allies and encourage inclusion and authenticity. Genders are not binary, and we're all humans and deserve to be treated as such.
Back in the noughties the treatment a Trans person received (huge multinational company) was absolutely disgraceful!!! Without saying too much, someone on my team wanted to transition recently and the team completely supported them and supported their transition. Imagine living a life where you are are constantly in conflict with your implied gender identity? I cannot, it's one thing transitioning in a work environment imagine doing so across all your social circles. |  | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:42 - Jun 17 with 2635 views | Keno |
I have lots of letters after my name but not those variations |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:45 - Jun 17 with 2621 views | MerseyBlue |
It's pretty commonplace for people to opt into it in my place of work now but it's not something that has been mandated or even recommended. We have however had a lot of inclusion training and it seems that most of the staff have positively taken on board what we've passed on.
I think the key thing to remember for anyone who feels uncomfortable about it is that you can always use the person's name or 'they' (although some non-binary people do not like the use of 'they'). I also think it's fair to say that most people who struggle with preferred pronouns find it difficult to shake the habits of a lifetime of assuming people's genders based on biological features.
Generally I think if you make a mistake and are apologetic about it and try to learn from it then nobody gets too upset for too long. [Post edited 17 Jun 2021 19:56]
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:47 - Jun 17 with 2601 views | WD19 |
Its pretty much standard practice.......albeit in most places it is optional.
Allyship innit.
I haven't yet succumbed.......but that is because of my backward rural Essex ways. |  | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:20 - Jun 17 with 2449 views | Ftnfwest |
Yes we’re doing all that nonsense as well, although optional. Interestingly though is this eventually going to render the old versions ie. ‘mr, Mrs and miss’ obsolete? |  | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:28 - Jun 17 with 2382 views | Darth_Koont |
That’s a good thing IMO.
Takes absolutely no effort from the majority of people but vitally important to the people for whom it is a big deal and crucial to their happiness.
I assume you’re just finding it noteworthy. But the people who have a major problem with this are the same breed as the people who had a problem with gays and lesbians a generation ago. |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:30 - Jun 17 with 2364 views | MerseyBlue |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:20 - Jun 17 by Ftnfwest |
Yes we’re doing all that nonsense as well, although optional. Interestingly though is this eventually going to render the old versions ie. ‘mr, Mrs and miss’ obsolete? |
Mr, Mrs and Miss will only become obsolete if nobody has a preference for those prefixes. It's all just about people's preferences innit. I say prefixes because I don't think any of those three count as pronouns as they can standalone as nouns in the same way Major, Prime Minister or Officer can. | |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:37 - Jun 17 with 2325 views | NBVJohn |
This is becoming common place amongst the younger folk in the large organisation I work for.
It is completely down to the individual to decide whether to include it or not.
As an old fart I will admit that it took a little getting used to, but I can see that this is a logical progression of inclusivity.
I am sure that GB news would have strong views on this, but that’s their problem. |  | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:47 - Jun 17 with 2254 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:37 - Jun 17 by NBVJohn |
This is becoming common place amongst the younger folk in the large organisation I work for.
It is completely down to the individual to decide whether to include it or not.
As an old fart I will admit that it took a little getting used to, but I can see that this is a logical progression of inclusivity.
I am sure that GB news would have strong views on this, but that’s their problem. |
I have seen it a few times - at first, I assumed the person using it was pointing out that they'd had a sex change, so now wanted to be known THIS way.
I thought long and hard about how likely that was, given who the person is. I decided it was very unlikely indeed. I then consulted Mrs Freddies Ears, whose thinking, for once, was aligned with mine. We decided it just meant that we're old | | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:54 - Jun 17 with 2202 views | footers |
'It'?!
I'll have you know Cousin It took their style totally from me. |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:57 - Jun 17 with 2188 views | RobTheMonk |
We have a lot of people that do this at work - university college. I really couldn't care what people refer to me as so I don't have it on mine. |  | | |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 21:09 - Jun 17 with 2150 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Not forced (yet) but encouraged at work yes. |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 21:49 - Jun 17 with 2026 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:57 - Jun 17 by RobTheMonk |
We have a lot of people that do this at work - university college. I really couldn't care what people refer to me as so I don't have it on mine. |
I think you should be called Ecclesiastical Thief.... |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 22:05 - Jun 17 with 1980 views | factual_blue |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:54 - Jun 17 by footers |
'It'?!
I'll have you know Cousin It took their style totally from me. |
There was a similar practice years ago in the Civil Service, but it was more on the lines of 'Facters (tea - milk, no sugar. Two chocolate digestives)'. | |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 22:09 - Jun 17 with 1966 views | factual_blue |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 20:47 - Jun 17 by Freddies_Ears |
I have seen it a few times - at first, I assumed the person using it was pointing out that they'd had a sex change, so now wanted to be known THIS way.
I thought long and hard about how likely that was, given who the person is. I decided it was very unlikely indeed. I then consulted Mrs Freddies Ears, whose thinking, for once, was aligned with mine. We decided it just meant that we're old |
So you now put 'Freddies Ears (Old)? | |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 22:28 - Jun 17 with 1887 views | Ryorry |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:14 - Jun 17 by FPL_Tractor |
I’ve seen people who have chosen to do this, for instance people with unisex names, but not seen it mandated. |
"mandated", very good!  |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 22:45 - Jun 17 with 1843 views | WicklowBlue |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 19:41 - Jun 17 by WicklowBlue |
The company I work promotes this too, its a key part of us all being allies and encourage inclusion and authenticity. Genders are not binary, and we're all humans and deserve to be treated as such.
Back in the noughties the treatment a Trans person received (huge multinational company) was absolutely disgraceful!!! Without saying too much, someone on my team wanted to transition recently and the team completely supported them and supported their transition. Imagine living a life where you are are constantly in conflict with your implied gender identity? I cannot, it's one thing transitioning in a work environment imagine doing so across all your social circles. |
To be honest, I am really disappointed with the responses on this thread. I get some were a bit of a laugh etc. But honestly considering we are in the middle of Pride Month, some of you really need to educate yourselves and counter the bias and prejudice you grew up with.
Phil we should be celebrating and supporting our own:
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 23:15 - Jun 17 with 1755 views | Ryorry |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 22:45 - Jun 17 by WicklowBlue |
To be honest, I am really disappointed with the responses on this thread. I get some were a bit of a laugh etc. But honestly considering we are in the middle of Pride Month, some of you really need to educate yourselves and counter the bias and prejudice you grew up with.
Phil we should be celebrating and supporting our own:
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If you're disappointed in the thread's replies, maybe you missed Wicklow, Mersey & DK's contributions? | |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 23:17 - Jun 17 with 1748 views | jeera |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 23:15 - Jun 17 by Ryorry |
If you're disappointed in the thread's replies, maybe you missed Wicklow, Mersey & DK's contributions? |
He is Wicklow. |  |
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| Anybody else encountered this? on 23:20 - Jun 17 with 1736 views | Ryorry |
| Anybody else encountered this? on 23:17 - Jun 17 by jeera |
He is Wicklow. |
Ah right, haha, thank you! 
It did get 7 uppies & counting tbf. | |
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