| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! 18:08 - Jul 18 with 9193 views | SitfcB |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 18:44 - Jul 18 with 6316 views | ArnieM |
Well that’s a cool £350k for doing nothing at all really isn’t it! |  |
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| EDIT: How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 18:50 - Jul 18 with 6297 views | unstableblue |
(Edit: with thanks to Chealey and J2 - I had misread the deets, changed as per)
The key questions are how many more who could renew, as non-season ticket holders, with a one or more ticket purchase history are still planning to purchase a membership? So what is the final total going into the 25% of available tickets in the ballot.
Because that final number will be vying for around 1500 tickets available for matchday via the ballot! (29k-20k STs - 3k away = 6000*25% = 1500)
Gut feel is that group will have a poor chance to get a ticket around 6:1. And also tickets will never make general sale this season, so some value in new membership.
Note: Today from 10am was when it was opened to new members. So will be interesting to see the final membership total. [Post edited 19 Jul 2024 9:15]
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 18:57 - Jul 18 with 6205 views | MattinLondon |
With me, renewing my membership was just my desperate way of being able to attend a couple of matches. I could only attend three matches last season so I’m not holding out much hope. |  | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 18:58 - Jul 18 with 6203 views | unstableblue |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 18:44 - Jul 18 by ArnieM |
Well that’s a cool £350k for doing nothing at all really isn’t it! |
Oh I don’t know… Premiership football, one of the highest paid managers in Europe delivering entertaining football at last, and a £90m transfer spend… feels like doing something?!
But I know what you mean.
Sadly £350k doesn’t go far on wages and transfers in the Premier League!! | |
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| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:00 - Jul 18 with 6174 views | SheffordBlue |
| EDIT: How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 18:50 - Jul 18 by unstableblue |
(Edit: with thanks to Chealey and J2 - I had misread the deets, changed as per)
The key questions are how many more who could renew, as non-season ticket holders, with a one or more ticket purchase history are still planning to purchase a membership? So what is the final total going into the 25% of available tickets in the ballot.
Because that final number will be vying for around 1500 tickets available for matchday via the ballot! (29k-20k STs - 3k away = 6000*25% = 1500)
Gut feel is that group will have a poor chance to get a ticket around 6:1. And also tickets will never make general sale this season, so some value in new membership.
Note: Today from 10am was when it was opened to new members. So will be interesting to see the final membership total. [Post edited 19 Jul 2024 9:15]
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Would imagine a couple of thousand of those at least are season ticket holders who bought memberships for away fixtures but there's still going to be lots of members vying for a relatively small number of home tickets. |  |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 19:01 - Jul 18 with 6164 views | SitfcB |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 18:57 - Jul 18 by MattinLondon |
With me, renewing my membership was just my desperate way of being able to attend a couple of matches. I could only attend three matches last season so I’m not holding out much hope. |
Hopefully you’ll be successful one way or another.
I do think the threshold for the ballot should’ve been few more games though, but they must’ve crunched the numbers and work it out somehow.
I wonder if you’re successful in one ballot you can’t then enter again!? | |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 19:02 - Jul 18 with 6133 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 18:58 - Jul 18 by unstableblue |
Oh I don’t know… Premiership football, one of the highest paid managers in Europe delivering entertaining football at last, and a £90m transfer spend… feels like doing something?!
But I know what you mean.
Sadly £350k doesn’t go far on wages and transfers in the Premier League!! |
“ Sadly £350k doesn’t go far on wages and transfers in the Premier League!!”
To be fair that wouldn’t even cover the salary of one average Championship player!
Still waiting for details of the season ticket waiting list… | | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 19:05 - Jul 18 with 6104 views | Deano69 |
feels a bit like the entire plane buying priority boarding.
that said, great revenue for the club |  |
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| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:07 - Jul 18 with 6082 views | J2BLUE |
| EDIT: How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 18:50 - Jul 18 by unstableblue |
(Edit: with thanks to Chealey and J2 - I had misread the deets, changed as per)
The key questions are how many more who could renew, as non-season ticket holders, with a one or more ticket purchase history are still planning to purchase a membership? So what is the final total going into the 25% of available tickets in the ballot.
Because that final number will be vying for around 1500 tickets available for matchday via the ballot! (29k-20k STs - 3k away = 6000*25% = 1500)
Gut feel is that group will have a poor chance to get a ticket around 6:1. And also tickets will never make general sale this season, so some value in new membership.
Note: Today from 10am was when it was opened to new members. So will be interesting to see the final membership total. [Post edited 19 Jul 2024 9:15]
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6.5k?
29000 (I have left the odd for segregation)
-22000 ST
7000
-3000 Away
4000
- boxes, player tickets, corporate tickets, directors box etc etc
I can't imagine there is more than 3000 tickets left
750 ballot
2250 first come first served
It will be carnage.
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| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:25 - Jul 18 with 5883 views | Vaughan8 |
| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:07 - Jul 18 by J2BLUE |
6.5k?
29000 (I have left the odd for segregation)
-22000 ST
7000
-3000 Away
4000
- boxes, player tickets, corporate tickets, directors box etc etc
I can't imagine there is more than 3000 tickets left
750 ballot
2250 first come first served
It will be carnage.
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Agreed. It's going to be manic when it's open to memberships.
If I was a member last year then I'd do it as you're bound to get a couple of games.
But new memberships, if 10k is correct, you're basically going to have 9k+ members (or less if not wveryone wants one) trying to get about 2.5k of tickets, some of which will be restricted view.....
I'm still undecided whether I should get one or not as some days the 10am opening isn't great for me with work. Maybe I just need to happen to need the toilet at 10am.... | | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 19:30 - Jul 18 with 5831 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 18:44 - Jul 18 by ArnieM |
Well that’s a cool £350k for doing nothing at all really isn’t it! |
It's as if buying football players is an expensive business and clubs need to maximise their revenue. |  |
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| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:38 - Jul 18 with 5742 views | SitfcB |
| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:25 - Jul 18 by Vaughan8 |
Agreed. It's going to be manic when it's open to memberships.
If I was a member last year then I'd do it as you're bound to get a couple of games.
But new memberships, if 10k is correct, you're basically going to have 9k+ members (or less if not wveryone wants one) trying to get about 2.5k of tickets, some of which will be restricted view.....
I'm still undecided whether I should get one or not as some days the 10am opening isn't great for me with work. Maybe I just need to happen to need the toilet at 10am.... |
Strange they haven’t done the home games on a points bracket based either, the 10am on sale to members is going to be crazy and doubt any tickets will be available after a couple of minutes! | |
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| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:40 - Jul 18 with 5687 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| EDIT: How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 18:50 - Jul 18 by unstableblue |
(Edit: with thanks to Chealey and J2 - I had misread the deets, changed as per)
The key questions are how many more who could renew, as non-season ticket holders, with a one or more ticket purchase history are still planning to purchase a membership? So what is the final total going into the 25% of available tickets in the ballot.
Because that final number will be vying for around 1500 tickets available for matchday via the ballot! (29k-20k STs - 3k away = 6000*25% = 1500)
Gut feel is that group will have a poor chance to get a ticket around 6:1. And also tickets will never make general sale this season, so some value in new membership.
Note: Today from 10am was when it was opened to new members. So will be interesting to see the final membership total. [Post edited 19 Jul 2024 9:15]
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I think you need to re-read how tickets sales are going to work
The ballot is for 1/4 of available tickets only, so won’t be anywhere close to 6,500. The rest will then go on sale to non-ST members (regardless of purchase history), first come first served
They won’t make it to ST holding members, let alone general sale, barring a real struggle in which case a game like Wolves at home in April may have a chance, but unlikely. Not sure why this is a surprise to anyone really, was obviously going to be a case given the way sales were going last season let alone now we’re in the PL
EDIT; earlier round cup games at home will obviously be an exception [Post edited 18 Jul 2024 19:41]
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| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:52 - Jul 18 with 5558 views | rkc123 |
| How many are non ST holders? how many bought a ticket last season? on 19:25 - Jul 18 by Vaughan8 |
Agreed. It's going to be manic when it's open to memberships.
If I was a member last year then I'd do it as you're bound to get a couple of games.
But new memberships, if 10k is correct, you're basically going to have 9k+ members (or less if not wveryone wants one) trying to get about 2.5k of tickets, some of which will be restricted view.....
I'm still undecided whether I should get one or not as some days the 10am opening isn't great for me with work. Maybe I just need to happen to need the toilet at 10am.... |
I am in the same position, I didn't have a membership last year even though I made it to a few games, and I now don't see the point in buying a membership as it's very unlikely to result in getting to many (if any) matches. I feel like all members should just be put in a draw together, the idea of rewarding loyalty seems like slightly flawed logic. I had a season ticket between 2001 and 2015, when I had to give it up for work and family reasons, and I personally feel that using the purchase of a membership and attending a game last year as a show of loyalty worthy of reward truly underestimates the dross that fans such as myself sat through in the lost years of championship mediocrity.
Just to be clear in case it doesn't come across, that was all meant a bit tongue in cheek, but I do think it's true that for some people their capacity or means to actively support the club by attending games varies over time, and it should just be that everyone who purchases a membership has an equal opportunity of getting tickets through the ballot. | | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 20:07 - Jul 18 with 5456 views | Hipsterectomy |
Can someone explain it to me: so if you have a season ticket and a membership you will be priority for an 'on sale' home ticket?
I know how the away system/points works. It's more getting my partner to a few home games, as I did last season, using my membership. I don't know of any other option that would work but the stress of attempting to get a ticket for your other half, your child, or just a mate, just for them to sit in the opposite stand, is darkly amusing to me |  |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 20:16 - Jul 18 with 5357 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 20:07 - Jul 18 by Hipsterectomy |
Can someone explain it to me: so if you have a season ticket and a membership you will be priority for an 'on sale' home ticket?
I know how the away system/points works. It's more getting my partner to a few home games, as I did last season, using my membership. I don't know of any other option that would work but the stress of attempting to get a ticket for your other half, your child, or just a mate, just for them to sit in the opposite stand, is darkly amusing to me |
You’ll be after non-ST holders in the queue, so will have no chance. |  |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 20:21 - Jul 18 with 5303 views | The_Snake |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 19:05 - Jul 18 by Deano69 |
feels a bit like the entire plane buying priority boarding.
that said, great revenue for the club |
That’s a great analogy. I’ve had a season ticket for years and until 2 seasons ago did 4 or 5 away days a season with no trouble getting tickets without a membership. Fair play to those who could make every or most away games for the last couple of seasons and have gained the points. Just don’t see the benefit of trying to get on the away days now as a new member, even with the ballot I just can’t see getting many or any tickets if 10k have already signed up. Good luck to those having a go! And if anybody gets a spare, give us a nudge! |  | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 20:54 - Jul 18 with 5085 views | peterleeblue |
It will be very much suck it and see for me.
As new member I am hopeful that some of the more awkward kick off times that may result in a few tickets being available that otherwise would be snapped up.
If I can't make it work for me this season then so be it I won't renew the membership next season. I'll be happy if I get 3 games home or away. Let's hope we take the FA Cup seriously!!!! |  | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 21:34 - Jul 18 with 4860 views | textbackup |
I know of 5-10 people who have purchased memberships for next season, and didn’t have them last, in the hope they get 2/3/4 home game tickets.
Every little helps as they say. |  |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 21:43 - Jul 18 with 4771 views | textbackup |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 20:54 - Jul 18 by peterleeblue |
It will be very much suck it and see for me.
As new member I am hopeful that some of the more awkward kick off times that may result in a few tickets being available that otherwise would be snapped up.
If I can't make it work for me this season then so be it I won't renew the membership next season. I'll be happy if I get 3 games home or away. Let's hope we take the FA Cup seriously!!!! |
FA cup and league cup tickets will go to ST holders first, then filter down as league tickets would.
So I’d think they’ll still be hard to get hold of. | |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 22:17 - Jul 18 with 4575 views | Hipsterectomy |
Taylor Swift has changed the game with how tickets to big events are sold. I saw her official website hosting a competition where, at random, 1 lucky winner would win a window of opportunity to PURCHASE 2 tickets at face value.
The memberships don't give much value other than some reassurance to those with FOMO, which is made redundant when thousands are buying them or using it as a quick way to gain 5 away points.
I know we're doing the best we can, and this is something that was probably never a priority when we were averaging 16,000 fans in the Championship in recent memory, but I feel we are victims of our own success to an extent. Not being able to reliably buy tickets with friends and family isn't great. Even in the club's FAQ regarding it, the advice was just 'wait for the person with lowest priority to be able to buy tickets' | |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 22:23 - Jul 18 with 4503 views | ITFCson |
I went to 25 home games last season and 11 away. If I don’t get a Liverpool ticket I will feel hard done by and will probably be on here bemoaning the whole system! | | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 22:40 - Jul 18 with 4329 views | NeedhamChris |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 22:23 - Jul 18 by ITFCson |
I went to 25 home games last season and 11 away. If I don’t get a Liverpool ticket I will feel hard done by and will probably be on here bemoaning the whole system! |
A season ticket sounds like it would have saved you money. | |
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| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 22:46 - Jul 18 with 4253 views | olimar |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 22:17 - Jul 18 by Hipsterectomy |
Taylor Swift has changed the game with how tickets to big events are sold. I saw her official website hosting a competition where, at random, 1 lucky winner would win a window of opportunity to PURCHASE 2 tickets at face value.
The memberships don't give much value other than some reassurance to those with FOMO, which is made redundant when thousands are buying them or using it as a quick way to gain 5 away points.
I know we're doing the best we can, and this is something that was probably never a priority when we were averaging 16,000 fans in the Championship in recent memory, but I feel we are victims of our own success to an extent. Not being able to reliably buy tickets with friends and family isn't great. Even in the club's FAQ regarding it, the advice was just 'wait for the person with lowest priority to be able to buy tickets' |
The membership is also a way of ensuring that away fans or new fans dont jump the queue. | | | |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 22:53 - Jul 18 with 4184 views | olimar |
| Watson reckons 10,000+ memberships have been renewed! on 19:01 - Jul 18 by SitfcB |
Hopefully you’ll be successful one way or another.
I do think the threshold for the ballot should’ve been few more games though, but they must’ve crunched the numbers and work it out somehow.
I wonder if you’re successful in one ballot you can’t then enter again!? |
That was exactly my question- back in 2000, the ballot (pioneering as it was at the time) took people out once they had been awarded a ticket and only added back in once everyone had a turn.
Back then though, we would surely have had fewer members (I think 1999 was the first time they ever had memberships, so it was pretty new). so maybe they could give more guarantees.
But if we only have 5000 seats available each game and we end up with 20,000 members, they could in theory lock down any new members after the start of the season and guarantee everyone they would get the option to buy 4-5 tickets.
Edit: I realise I overlooked the fact that the ballot is only for the first 25% of tickets. But even so, they can still apply a rota to it. [Post edited 18 Jul 2024 23:18]
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