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Is violence ever acceptable 07:44 - Mar 29 with 7869 viewsonceablue

This will smith incident has caused massive discussion and how you should react if someone insults you or a family member

I was taught sticks and stones can break your bones but words can never hurt me

I guess we live in such a violent society that this no longer applies

It appears now unless you go round thumping people at the earliest opportunity you are no longer a man

Going back to the Wild West dates eh

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Is violence ever acceptable on 07:47 - Mar 29 with 2446 viewsDanTheMan

Most of the reaction has been to condemn Will Smith...

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Is violence ever acceptable on 07:53 - Mar 29 with 2402 viewsBlueBoots


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Is violence ever acceptable on 08:30 - Mar 29 with 2337 viewsVic

Thankfully he has since admitted that he was wrong and apologised. Violence, though understandable sometimes, is not the answer, whatever the provocation. Despite giving an outlet to often justifiable anger it rarely if ever ends up achieving much long term.

I’m not referring to violence in self defence which is a different thing. I suspect that Smith could have delivered an even more stinging, devastating take down with words in his acceptance speech had be have thought about it, with no of the unwanted after effects.

His actions are in my opinion understandable, but not right.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 08:42 - Mar 29 with 2300 viewsCheltenham_Blue

I don't think there are too many on here, who if their wife had a medical condition, a condition that had caused her anxiety and depression and a bloke in a pub made a cheap joke at the expense of her and her condition, would not confront and probably lamp that bloke.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 08:44 - Mar 29 with 2285 viewsGeoffSentence

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:42 - Mar 29 by Cheltenham_Blue

I don't think there are too many on here, who if their wife had a medical condition, a condition that had caused her anxiety and depression and a bloke in a pub made a cheap joke at the expense of her and her condition, would not confront and probably lamp that bloke.


But would that be the right way to respond?

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Is violence ever acceptable on 08:48 - Mar 29 with 2266 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:44 - Mar 29 by GeoffSentence

But would that be the right way to respond?


Depends how upset your wife is doesn't it.

You'd happily sit there and let someone insult your wife medical condition? I don't believe it.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 08:53 - Mar 29 with 2252 viewsBloomBlue

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:42 - Mar 29 by Cheltenham_Blue

I don't think there are too many on here, who if their wife had a medical condition, a condition that had caused her anxiety and depression and a bloke in a pub made a cheap joke at the expense of her and her condition, would not confront and probably lamp that bloke.


But where do you draw the line? Many police officers will have offensive comments made to them today by people they stop, in that situation is it OK for a police officer to slap that individual without it being against the law?

Also what level of violence is acceptable you could slap someone they fall and smash their head, so is stabbing someone in the throat as acceptable as slapping someone.

When someone calls my mate Clive an 'old fart' or 'baldy' it upsets him, is he ok to immediately slap that person and what if it's a kid a in a school uniform, those words hurt Clive just as much is it OK to slap them

Personally I would like slap Will Smith for the fresh prince of bel-air because as sitcom I thought it was offensive to comedy
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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:05 - Mar 29 with 2193 viewsGlasgowBlue

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:53 - Mar 29 by BloomBlue

But where do you draw the line? Many police officers will have offensive comments made to them today by people they stop, in that situation is it OK for a police officer to slap that individual without it being against the law?

Also what level of violence is acceptable you could slap someone they fall and smash their head, so is stabbing someone in the throat as acceptable as slapping someone.

When someone calls my mate Clive an 'old fart' or 'baldy' it upsets him, is he ok to immediately slap that person and what if it's a kid a in a school uniform, those words hurt Clive just as much is it OK to slap them

Personally I would like slap Will Smith for the fresh prince of bel-air because as sitcom I thought it was offensive to comedy


Completely different. The police are professionals, trained to keep their heads.

Will Smith had to sit there and listen to somebody make a cheap joke at the expense of his wife’s medical condition. His reaction was a human reaction.

What is more concerning though is the comments I’ve seen from people dismissing Alopecia. As if it is trivial. It’s not. It’s a confidence destroying illness that causes depression, especially in women.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:06 - Mar 29 with 2204 viewsChurchman

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:30 - Mar 29 by Vic

Thankfully he has since admitted that he was wrong and apologised. Violence, though understandable sometimes, is not the answer, whatever the provocation. Despite giving an outlet to often justifiable anger it rarely if ever ends up achieving much long term.

I’m not referring to violence in self defence which is a different thing. I suspect that Smith could have delivered an even more stinging, devastating take down with words in his acceptance speech had be have thought about it, with no of the unwanted after effects.

His actions are in my opinion understandable, but not right.


I agree with Vic on this. However in the heat of the moment, it’s not always easy to make the right choices.

As for Cheltenham Blue’s point about a deliberate insult to a loved one in a pub, I see what he’s saying and yes, I would deal with it. Does that make my first paragraph hypocritical? Possibly, but I don’t think so. It’s all about the circumstances.

As for Smith, I fully understand why he did it, but I bet he wishes he’d dealt with it differently especially given the nature of the event.
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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:08 - Mar 29 with 2183 viewsblueasfook

Is violence ever acceptable on 09:05 - Mar 29 by GlasgowBlue

Completely different. The police are professionals, trained to keep their heads.

Will Smith had to sit there and listen to somebody make a cheap joke at the expense of his wife’s medical condition. His reaction was a human reaction.

What is more concerning though is the comments I’ve seen from people dismissing Alopecia. As if it is trivial. It’s not. It’s a confidence destroying illness that causes depression, especially in women.


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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:09 - Mar 29 with 2183 viewsdavblue

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:30 - Mar 29 by Vic

Thankfully he has since admitted that he was wrong and apologised. Violence, though understandable sometimes, is not the answer, whatever the provocation. Despite giving an outlet to often justifiable anger it rarely if ever ends up achieving much long term.

I’m not referring to violence in self defence which is a different thing. I suspect that Smith could have delivered an even more stinging, devastating take down with words in his acceptance speech had be have thought about it, with no of the unwanted after effects.

His actions are in my opinion understandable, but not right.


is it a true apology or an apology to save his career?
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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:10 - Mar 29 with 2177 viewsjeera

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:44 - Mar 29 by GeoffSentence

But would that be the right way to respond?


People have been killed for less.

A slap round the face was a result really.

It's not like Smith had him kidnapped, trussed up and thrown from a bridge into a fast flowing river.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:11 - Mar 29 with 2159 viewsGeoffSentence

Is violence ever acceptable on 08:48 - Mar 29 by Cheltenham_Blue

Depends how upset your wife is doesn't it.

You'd happily sit there and let someone insult your wife medical condition? I don't believe it.


There are different ways of responding to tossers, violently is one way, the power of the word could also be invoked, dismissing the offender as not worth bothering with and many other ways.

I honestly don't know how I personally would respond under those circumstances, probably not violently, I can't see how that would help my wife. But who knows, maybe the emotion would take over and and I would do something stupid.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 08:53 - Mar 29 by BloomBlue

But where do you draw the line? Many police officers will have offensive comments made to them today by people they stop, in that situation is it OK for a police officer to slap that individual without it being against the law?

Also what level of violence is acceptable you could slap someone they fall and smash their head, so is stabbing someone in the throat as acceptable as slapping someone.

When someone calls my mate Clive an 'old fart' or 'baldy' it upsets him, is he ok to immediately slap that person and what if it's a kid a in a school uniform, those words hurt Clive just as much is it OK to slap them

Personally I would like slap Will Smith for the fresh prince of bel-air because as sitcom I thought it was offensive to comedy


hahahahah

the police could/will/have forcefully pinned people to the floor for being arseholes to them. so whilst they dont directly chuck a punch, they can apply pain in a way theyve been professional trained to do..... and they get away with it.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:17 - Mar 29 with 2103 viewsjeera

Is violence ever acceptable on 09:11 - Mar 29 by GeoffSentence

There are different ways of responding to tossers, violently is one way, the power of the word could also be invoked, dismissing the offender as not worth bothering with and many other ways.

I honestly don't know how I personally would respond under those circumstances, probably not violently, I can't see how that would help my wife. But who knows, maybe the emotion would take over and and I would do something stupid.


Mate, there was a rumour circulating behind the scenes on here of a plot to have you bumped off for cheating at wordle.

There are some things in life where you reap what you sow.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:05 - Mar 29 by GlasgowBlue

Completely different. The police are professionals, trained to keep their heads.

Will Smith had to sit there and listen to somebody make a cheap joke at the expense of his wife’s medical condition. His reaction was a human reaction.

What is more concerning though is the comments I’ve seen from people dismissing Alopecia. As if it is trivial. It’s not. It’s a confidence destroying illness that causes depression, especially in women.


exactly this, not many things get to me, but seeing people dismiss it because "its not cancer is it!" is horribly wrong.

my wife is a hairdresser and the clients she has that come in for a hair cut, then break down in tears before/during/after....

its not sexist at all to suggest women are hit massively by this, mentally, if your mate had it you'd call him patch or something and chances are it would get laughed off, but with the ladies their hair is extremely important to them.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:21 - Mar 29 with 2087 viewsclive_baker

I don't think it's 'right' to slap someone. That said, if you're going to mock someone's disability then you can't be surprised to get a slap. I don't understand how it's suddenly 'edgy' to present awards and act like a cock in the process. It was neither funny nor tasteful IMO and I personally can't say I blame Will Smith for reacting the way he did.

The same celerities will be telling people to #bekind 5 minutes later.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:09 - Mar 29 by davblue

is it a true apology or an apology to save his career?


He's not Dapper Laughs, this is Will Smith, his career would have been perfectly safe

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:21 - Mar 29 by clive_baker

I don't think it's 'right' to slap someone. That said, if you're going to mock someone's disability then you can't be surprised to get a slap. I don't understand how it's suddenly 'edgy' to present awards and act like a cock in the process. It was neither funny nor tasteful IMO and I personally can't say I blame Will Smith for reacting the way he did.

The same celerities will be telling people to #bekind 5 minutes later.


I'm sure its Gervais that says you can make a joke about a situation without being offence, because its about a subject, not a personal attack.

What matey done was direct and personal, so it crossed the line from comedy to c**ty, IMO.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:27 - Mar 29 with 2043 viewsusm

Only in self defence and this was not self defence.
Cant believe anyone is defending WS's actions - what kind of a message does that send out to the millions watching live and the billions now reading/talking about it?
He should have been and known better than that.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:30 - Mar 29 with 2012 viewsSitfcB

I wouldn’t even class what he did as violence.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:32 - Mar 29 with 1998 viewsMattinLondon

Is violence ever acceptable on 09:30 - Mar 29 by SitfcB

I wouldn’t even class what he did as violence.


You don’t think that physical assault is violence?
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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:30 - Mar 29 by SitfcB

I wouldn’t even class what he did as violence.


my mate hit me harder than that with a beer tray, on a stag doo, for a laugh.

real lads wont bat an eyelid at a slap

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:36 - Mar 29 with 1972 viewsclive_baker

Is violence ever acceptable on 09:27 - Mar 29 by usm

Only in self defence and this was not self defence.
Cant believe anyone is defending WS's actions - what kind of a message does that send out to the millions watching live and the billions now reading/talking about it?
He should have been and known better than that.


Why is WS getting all the sh1t for it though? Chris Rock started it, he can't be surprised to get a slap when you shoot your mouth off like that. Why is physical abuse so much worse than the mental abuse that started the whole thing?

They're both wrong for me, 2 wrongs don't equal a right etc etc, but if you say things like that about someone you can't have too many complaints if you get socked for it. WS showed enough restraint to give him an open handed slap, he made his point without it being OTT. It's not like he dropped a headbutt to his nose.

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Is violence ever acceptable on 09:37 - Mar 29 with 1966 viewsDarth_Koont

As self-defence from a real physical threat, yes. Otherwise, no.

I can understand the red mist taking over but it’s still wrong.

On a related note, I think it’s massively outdated that parents can still smack their kids (not in Scotland and Wales, I believe). That needs to be stopped as it’s a pretty poor lesson for kids and the society that develops from that.

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