| Kyle Edwards 10:50 - Dec 22 with 4841 views | Dubtractor |
I wonder if we may see him move on in January?
Clearly has some talent, but still seems to lack much end product in terms of goals and assists. This talk of Jack Taylor being on the radar, and with Aluko back in the fold, Harness returning soon, and Chaplin clearly a McKenna favourite, makes me wonder what role Edwards has going forward.
I'd rather him stay for squad depth, but wouldn't be surprised if he was one that looked for a fresh start. McKenna has generally only started him when we've not got any choice, so I'm not sure how much he rates him. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 10:54 - Dec 22 with 3851 views | Steve_M |
I think he stays because we want the depth, we were a lot better when we could rotate the majority of our front players in most games. I think the same question about end product applies to Aluko as much as his control helped enormously in the Peterborough match. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 10:55 - Dec 22 with 3830 views | catch74 |
Maybe a loan - I reckon McKenna would love another pre-season with him, feels like his decision making has improved this season. Doesn’t seem to like using him as a starter but does like him coming on against tired legs - so maybe keeps him here as a super sub. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 10:57 - Dec 22 with 3799 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Kyle Edwards on 10:54 - Dec 22 by Steve_M |
I think he stays because we want the depth, we were a lot better when we could rotate the majority of our front players in most games. I think the same question about end product applies to Aluko as much as his control helped enormously in the Peterborough match. |
Aluko seems to be some sort of cult hero. He's decent enough and I like him but his output for a 10 is nowhere near good enough. |  | | |
| Kyle Edwards on 10:58 - Dec 22 with 3786 views | Kieran_Knows |
I get the feeling McKenna just doesn't trust him really. Aluko injured for 3 months and straight back in the side says a lot. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 10:58 - Dec 22 with 3779 views | JakeITFC |
I think that would be quite a bad decision, should it happen. |  | | |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:00 - Dec 22 with 3746 views | Deano69 |
| Kyle Edwards on 10:57 - Dec 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Aluko seems to be some sort of cult hero. He's decent enough and I like him but his output for a 10 is nowhere near good enough. |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:00 - Dec 22 with 3717 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Kyle Edwards on 10:57 - Dec 22 by tractorboy1978 |
Aluko seems to be some sort of cult hero. He's decent enough and I like him but his output for a 10 is nowhere near good enough. |
I wouldn't class Aluko as a normal 10 though. You kind of sacrifice a bit of directness for a bit of calmness and technical ability to hold the ball. When he played with Chaplin it enabled Chaplin to be more direct and roam across the pitch as Aluko held the line well. I was surprised when he didn't start against Wycombe tbh. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:01 - Dec 22 with 3718 views | Mullet |
I hope we keep him. Think we will see a lot more from him with patience and an eye on the Championship next year.
Aluko probably isn't going to offer us much beyond the rest of the season, I'd have thought if anyone is most in need of a loan it's Ahadme but he can only go back to Burton. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:03 - Dec 22 with 3689 views | Dubtractor |
Just to reiterate - I'd like him to stay. I've always been a sucker for a player with the ability to be direct and go past players, and we've not really got many who can do that. Just speculating really on the basis that I'm not convinced McKenna rates him and we're seemingly in the market for another AM. | |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:05 - Dec 22 with 3678 views | portmanking |
| Kyle Edwards on 10:58 - Dec 22 by Kieran_Knows |
I get the feeling McKenna just doesn't trust him really. Aluko injured for 3 months and straight back in the side says a lot. |
I think it's fair to say it's taken a while for KMac to build trust in Edwards. Unfortunately for Edwards, when he was given a recent run from the start he didn't remotely light it up. I don't think he'll go in Jan but he could be moved on in the summer should we get promotion IMO.
He's got great feet and unpredictability. The problem with Edwards is that his brain and feet aren't in sync. He doesn't know what he's going to do with the ball most of the time. It can bamboozle himself just as much as opposing full backs. He's an 'X Factor' off the bench but little more, for me. | | | |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:05 - Dec 22 with 3674 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
If we lose Kyle Edwards. We lose the only player in the squad who can take people on at pace as well as tight areas.
And also the only player in the squad who can make a substantial impact off the bench |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:06 - Dec 22 with 3669 views | hype313 |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:03 - Dec 22 by Dubtractor |
Just to reiterate - I'd like him to stay. I've always been a sucker for a player with the ability to be direct and go past players, and we've not really got many who can do that. Just speculating really on the basis that I'm not convinced McKenna rates him and we're seemingly in the market for another AM. |
He's a great option off the bench, to come on with 20-25 to go and attack tiring legs, but feel the same as you, don't think McKenna truly trusts him to start and when he does start he's been a little anonymous.
Think he'll stay because he is a good option, and we need all hands on deck for the tail end, but longer term I think he might be one that will want a regular starting spot and might look elsewhere. [Post edited 22 Dec 2022 11:07]
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:15 - Dec 22 with 3538 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:00 - Dec 22 by Deano69 |
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3 goals and 1 assist in 46 games. He doesn't even threaten to score really.
Looks far more suited to a deeper role these days. Good in possession and a good option to help close games out but ultimately as a 10 in this system you need to have better numbers. | | | |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:15 - Dec 22 with 3535 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
I'll be very surprised if anyone moves on in January. Kyle Edwards has a different type of style that we don't really have, even if he is to be used as mainly a sub.
If we get promoted this season, then he would be one of the names I wouldn't be too surprised to see with links away from the club. I think we'd need someone more secure on the ball than him for the Championship. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:17 - Dec 22 with 3500 views | Mullet |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:05 - Dec 22 by portmanking |
I think it's fair to say it's taken a while for KMac to build trust in Edwards. Unfortunately for Edwards, when he was given a recent run from the start he didn't remotely light it up. I don't think he'll go in Jan but he could be moved on in the summer should we get promotion IMO.
He's got great feet and unpredictability. The problem with Edwards is that his brain and feet aren't in sync. He doesn't know what he's going to do with the ball most of the time. It can bamboozle himself just as much as opposing full backs. He's an 'X Factor' off the bench but little more, for me. |
You'd also argue McKenna should fancy coaching him into being the best possible player. I don't want us to just to constantly cast players aside and it was actually buying Ahadme me that made me think we weren't looking to do that.
We've not had a manager since Mick who could get career best seasons out of players consistently, you'd think from this base with this backing we'd actually produce more Websters and Moores as we ascend the leagues. | |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:20 - Dec 22 with 3485 views | Deano69 |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:15 - Dec 22 by tractorboy1978 |
3 goals and 1 assist in 46 games. He doesn't even threaten to score really.
Looks far more suited to a deeper role these days. Good in possession and a good option to help close games out but ultimately as a 10 in this system you need to have better numbers. |
He isn't really even a number 10 and possibly one of the most technically gifted players in the team. Likewise, pretty sure the number of games we have conceded the lead or win with him on the pitch has been minimal.
Our issue isn't scoring and assist, its taking all the points on offer by closing out the game, he does that well by being good in possession and hard to get the ball off. Sure, we could go down the Keegan school of wining by out scoring teams 6-5 or something, but that isn't the game we play. | |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:26 - Dec 22 with 3429 views | portmanking |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:17 - Dec 22 by Mullet |
You'd also argue McKenna should fancy coaching him into being the best possible player. I don't want us to just to constantly cast players aside and it was actually buying Ahadme me that made me think we weren't looking to do that.
We've not had a manager since Mick who could get career best seasons out of players consistently, you'd think from this base with this backing we'd actually produce more Websters and Moores as we ascend the leagues. |
I'm all for coaching players to be better, but what if Edwards just doesn't have the minerals to make the most of his attributes? It happens. There's a reason why West Brom gave up on him and I fear it'll be the same reason why we do too. | | | |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:32 - Dec 22 with 3379 views | midastouch |
I would be sorry to see him go. I think we should stick with him, as he's got a lot of potential. I think he could develop into a great player for us if given time. On his day, he's very hard for the opposition to contain. Get some added consistency, and we'd have a real gem on our hands. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:35 - Dec 22 with 3347 views | jayessess |
From September he's been in every match day squad, so probably not? |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:38 - Dec 22 with 3296 views | SomethingBlue |
I think he'll stay for at least the rest of this season — McKenna won't want us back in the situation we've had in recent weeks, depth-wise, and he does add something unique and different. He's been good this season when called upon. Summer might be another matter, especially if we go up, but hard to see him moving on now. | |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:39 - Dec 22 with 3283 views | Mullet |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:26 - Dec 22 by portmanking |
I'm all for coaching players to be better, but what if Edwards just doesn't have the minerals to make the most of his attributes? It happens. There's a reason why West Brom gave up on him and I fear it'll be the same reason why we do too. |
Happens all the time, I was disappointed to see Dobra go that way and will be with Edwards but I think in the WBA case it was that he wasn't enough for top end Champ/eye on the Prem and we were in the right place.
We've almost all forgotten about Harper but he's in this division and when he signed looked every bit the player who could progress rapidly. Can't imagine his career is going to recover now sadly to reach those heights. | |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:49 - Dec 22 with 3142 views | J2BLUE |
Hope not.
Under Evans we would have probably loaned him to Plymouth or Sheff Wed. |  |
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| Kyle Edwards on 11:59 - Dec 22 with 3058 views | jayessess |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:39 - Dec 22 by Mullet |
Happens all the time, I was disappointed to see Dobra go that way and will be with Edwards but I think in the WBA case it was that he wasn't enough for top end Champ/eye on the Prem and we were in the right place.
We've almost all forgotten about Harper but he's in this division and when he signed looked every bit the player who could progress rapidly. Can't imagine his career is going to recover now sadly to reach those heights. |
Edwards doesn't especially look like a player who's about to fall away and drop down the divisions to me.
He doesn't give the ball away cheaply, he has a lot of good attributes and there's definitely signs his final ball and decision-making is improving. | |
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| Kyle Edwards on 12:08 - Dec 22 with 2990 views | portmanking |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:59 - Dec 22 by jayessess |
Edwards doesn't especially look like a player who's about to fall away and drop down the divisions to me.
He doesn't give the ball away cheaply, he has a lot of good attributes and there's definitely signs his final ball and decision-making is improving. |
That's why football is so fascinating and opinionated. For me, recent Edwards performances have seen me grow frustrated at his propensity to hold onto the ball for far too long and slow down our attacking momentum. I think he gets an easier ride from some fans due to his ability to beat a man with ease, but if only he could turn that talent into cold, hard assists and goals... | | | |
| Kyle Edwards on 12:28 - Dec 22 with 2883 views | Mullet |
| Kyle Edwards on 11:59 - Dec 22 by jayessess |
Edwards doesn't especially look like a player who's about to fall away and drop down the divisions to me.
He doesn't give the ball away cheaply, he has a lot of good attributes and there's definitely signs his final ball and decision-making is improving. |
No, but if we are going up and presumably not content with mere survival then it does beg the question if he can be coached to produce for a top end Championship. Which I think is a fair enough question right now. | |
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