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So the FBI sayâ€¦ 10:54 - Mar 1 with 10206 views

….covid 19 probably leaked from a Chinese government laboratory.
That’s interesting isn’t it. Many TWTD boyos got upset when Trump called it the Chinese virus.

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So the FBI say… on 10:55 - Mar 1 with 4200 views

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So the FBI say… on 11:01 - Mar 1 with 4142 views

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64806903.amp

Whilst I imagine it’ll never be proven 100pc - I’m personally not sure why people jumped in calling this as a conspiracy theory - weird for certain liberal people to jump to the defence of a secretive, authoritarian, and belligerent regime.

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So the FBI say… on 11:04 - Mar 1 with 4121 views

homer_123

Read a little more into it - within the US, not all agencies agree with the FBI's assessment.

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So the FBI say… on 11:06 - Mar 1 with 4100 views

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So the FBI say… on 11:04 - Mar 1 by homer_123
Read a little more into it - within the US, not all agencies agree with the FBI's assessment.

Indeed

"Wray’s public endorsement of the lab leak theory runs counter to the conclusions of several prominent scientific studies, as well as the assessments of some other US intelligence agencies. Wray did not explain the evidence that had informed the FBI’s conclusion. “There’s not a whole lot of details I can share that aren’t classified,” he said.

The Central Intelligence Agency and another prominent US federal agency still remain undecided about the origins of Covid-19, while the National Intelligence Council and four other agencies have concluded that the virus originated in animals, the Wall Street Journal reported this week."

So the FBI say… on 11:07 - Mar 1 with 4071 views

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So the FBI say… on 11:01 - Mar 1 by SuperKieranMcKenna
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64806903.amp Whilst I imagine it’ll never be proven 100pc - I’m personally not sure why people jumped in calling this as a conspiracy theory - weird for certain liberal people to jump to the defence of a secretive, authoritarian, and belligerent regime. [Post edited 1 Mar 2023 11:06]

Yeah, and China aren't much better...

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So the FBI say… on 11:09 - Mar 1 with 4055 views

chicoazul

So the FBI say… on 11:04 - Mar 1 by homer_123
Read a little more into it - within the US, not all agencies agree with the FBI's assessment.

I don’t believe I said they did.

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So the FBI say… on 11:11 - Mar 1 with 4043 views

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I think you've accidently said something reasonable mr! It was almost considered a racist or xenophobic accusation at one point, probably about the same time they renamed it to Covid from Wuhan.

But to be fair, 4 other US agencies aren't backing this opinion yet.

Edit: oops too slow with the other agencies point - apologies for the repetition.

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So the FBI say… on 11:13 - Mar 1 with 4017 views

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Trump’s comments weren’t particularly helpful at the time.

Do you remember anyone here saying there should not be an investigation once everyday life returned? Of course not.

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So the FBI say… on 11:17 - Mar 1 with 3997 views

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So the FBI say… on 11:13 - Mar 1 by J2BLUE
Trump’s comments weren’t particularly helpful at the time. Do you remember anyone here saying there should not be an investigation once everyday life returned? Of course not.

It was more that Trump’s comments were fuelling hate crimes against Asian Americans.

So the FBI say… on 11:17 - Mar 1 with 3990 views

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So the FBI say… on 11:13 - Mar 1 by J2BLUE
Trump’s comments weren’t particularly helpful at the time. Do you remember anyone here saying there should not be an investigation once everyday life returned? Of course not.

Chickers is desperately trying to troll again. It's a bit sad what he's become.

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So the FBI say… on 11:18 - Mar 1 with 3995 views

homer_123

So the FBI say… on 11:09 - Mar 1 by chicoazul
I don’t believe I said they did.

Nor did I say that you had.

I merely pointed out that the FBIs assessment isn't universally accepted within the US and within the context of your post, worth mentioning.

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So the FBI say… on 11:21 - Mar 1 with 3957 views

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With or without the help of Bill Gates?

So the FBI say… on 11:22 - Mar 1 with 3953 views

SlippinJimmyJuan

Never really understood why people were so quick to dismiss the idea that it came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, one of the world's premier laboratories for the study of coronaviruses. Maybe because the key proponents of the theory were all historically anti-China in rhetoric/had a bad relationship with facts.

As I understand it, nearly all pandemics have been caused by spillover - what was theorised to have happened at the Wuhan wet market. However, I recall it was the Russian flu in the 70s that is thought to have come from a lab accident. So not beyond the bounds of possibility, especially when you consider the secrecy of China.

I imagine people took issue with Trump labelling it the Chinese virus because the US is a country with a large Chinese population, and those unfounded words could easily lead to scapegoating of the average Chinese American, rather than be directed at the state. It was irresponsible to call it that without being able to prove it, even more so by tossing it out so freely to his legions of lunatic fans.

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So the FBI say… on 11:49 - Mar 1 with 3815 views

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So the FBI say… on 11:07 - Mar 1 by The_Flashing_Smile
Yeah, and China aren't much better...

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So the FBI say… on 12:08 - Mar 1 with 3783 views

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So the FBI say… on 12:11 - Mar 1 with 3758 views

unbelievablue

It is very interesting, in spite of your crap attempt at trolling re: Trump.

And of course, the FBI have never got anything wrong...

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So the FBI say… on 12:12 - Mar 1 with 3750 views

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So the FBI say… on 12:08 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
Redacted [Post edited 1 Mar 2023 21:50]

Why is pandemic in quotes?

Capitalists being capitalists and getting rich at the expense of the poor is one thing but I'm not sure that means the pandemic didn't happen and / or was manufactured.

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So the FBI say… on 12:16 - Mar 1 with 3719 views

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So the FBI say… on 12:08 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
Redacted [Post edited 1 Mar 2023 21:50]

The pandemic was about over half a billion people officially infected by a novel virus that led to the deaths of over 6 million people and counting. No inverted commas required.

You have a point about how our response to it was skewed towards business and opportunities for the already wealthy, with the majority having to make almost all the sacrifices and also pay for the response.

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So the FBI say… on 12:17 - Mar 1 with 3688 views

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Even if China did do it intentionally, it's fair to say our defences against a biothreat were poor and deeply exposed

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So the FBI say… on 12:19 - Mar 1 with 3649 views

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So the FBI say… on 12:12 - Mar 1 by DanTheMan
Why is pandemic in quotes? Capitalists being capitalists and getting rich at the expense of the poor is one thing but I'm not sure that means the pandemic didn't happen and / or was manufactured.

I only know what I saw. They shut down schools and our society. And they got even richer than usual.

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So the FBI say… on 12:25 - Mar 1 with 3562 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 12:16 - Mar 1 by Darth_Koont
The pandemic was about over half a billion people officially infected by a novel virus that led to the deaths of over 6 million people and counting. No inverted commas required. You have a point about how our response to it was skewed towards business and opportunities for the already wealthy, with the majority having to make almost all the sacrifices and also pay for the response.

It appears a massive overreaction either intended or later coopted to capitals purpose.

Covids a cough (coughs kill if you're old or ill) and the pandemic was a big fake.

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So the FBI say… on 12:25 - Mar 1 with 3549 views

DanTheMan

So the FBI say… on 12:19 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
I only know what I saw. They shut down schools and our society. And they got even richer than usual. [Post edited 1 Mar 2023 16:12]

Even if we go by the reported deaths (that would be underreported), COVID19 has killed over 7million people. The likelihood is that the amount of deaths were much higher than that.

And that's with the fairly extreme measures that many nations took.

It was not a "sniffle".

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So the FBI say… on 12:26 - Mar 1 with 3528 views

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So the FBI say… on 11:17 - Mar 1 by The_Flashing_Smile
Chickers is desperately trying to troll again. It's a bit sad what he's become.

He's always been pretty sh!t.

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So the FBI say… on 12:29 - Mar 1 with 3474 views

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So the FBI say… on 12:25 - Mar 1 by Buhrer
It appears a massive overreaction either intended or later coopted to capitals purpose. Covids a cough (coughs kill if you're old or ill) and the pandemic was a big fake.

My mother, a very robust 94 year old, died earlier than she should have because of Covid.

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So the FBI say… on 12:30 - Mar 1 with 3472 views

Buhrer

So the FBI say… on 12:25 - Mar 1 by DanTheMan
Even if we go by the reported deaths (that would be underreported), COVID19 has killed over 7million people. The likelihood is that the amount of deaths were much higher than that. And that's with the fairly extreme measures that many nations took. It was not a "sniffle".

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