| Barnsley not happy… on 20:56 - May 25 with 6488 views | J2BLUE |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 20:58 - May 25 with 6465 views | PhilTWTD |
They didn't sell out when they played us in 2000 either. |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:04 - May 25 with 6410 views | Churchman |
Having kept an eye on BBS Barnsley and Owlstalk, the ticket management by Wembley /EFL /Ticketmaster has been pretty shambolic.
Owlstalk has gone from pitchforks and burning torches to biggest club in the world etc etc. Back to their usual arrogance in other words. |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:07 - May 25 with 6356 views | Keno |
If only they had a player from Jamaica and could get the game postponed |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 21:40 - May 25 with 6166 views | Swansea_Blue |
Poor really. Barnsley’s nearly twice as large as Ipswich and we’d have no trouble selling them. But then they only get 10-11,000 in league games, so shouldn’t be that surprising. |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 21:54 - May 25 with 6077 views | Churchman |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:40 - May 25 by Swansea_Blue |
Poor really. Barnsley’s nearly twice as large as Ipswich and we’d have no trouble selling them. But then they only get 10-11,000 in league games, so shouldn’t be that surprising. |
Barnsley Borough has a population of 244k. That’s it. It’s hemmed in by other football clubs, Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield to the north, Sheffield, Rotherham to the south.
While Ipswich and surrounding area has a population of over 170k, Suffolk has a population of 760k. We also have support in Cambridgeshire and north Essex, so you could argue that proportionally Barnsley’s 11k is good. It certainly isn’t poor. | | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 22:46 - May 25 with 5809 views | MattinLondon |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:54 - May 25 by Churchman |
Barnsley Borough has a population of 244k. That’s it. It’s hemmed in by other football clubs, Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield to the north, Sheffield, Rotherham to the south.
While Ipswich and surrounding area has a population of over 170k, Suffolk has a population of 760k. We also have support in Cambridgeshire and north Essex, so you could argue that proportionally Barnsley’s 11k is good. It certainly isn’t poor. |
Their gates are also dictated by past history. If Barnsley’s record was predominantly in the PL (or old first division) then their gates would be much better. Same if we were primarily a third of fourth tier club then our gates would be far lower.
Leeds, with a population of 750k and recent PL history have poor support. |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 22:58 - May 25 with 5780 views | DinnernotTea |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:54 - May 25 by Churchman |
Barnsley Borough has a population of 244k. That’s it. It’s hemmed in by other football clubs, Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield to the north, Sheffield, Rotherham to the south.
While Ipswich and surrounding area has a population of over 170k, Suffolk has a population of 760k. We also have support in Cambridgeshire and north Essex, so you could argue that proportionally Barnsley’s 11k is good. It certainly isn’t poor. |
Ever tried driving north Suffolk to south Suffolk? Our population is irrelevant when the roads down here are so poor. North Essex as we know is heavily into London clubs, so all in all we are streets ahead of most.
11,000 is absolutely piss poor for a large town. |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 23:49 - May 25 with 5625 views | Vegtablue |
| Barnsley not happy… on 22:58 - May 25 by DinnernotTea |
Ever tried driving north Suffolk to south Suffolk? Our population is irrelevant when the roads down here are so poor. North Essex as we know is heavily into London clubs, so all in all we are streets ahead of most.
11,000 is absolutely piss poor for a large town. |
It isn't great but it is a different challenge.
Distance from the centre of Barnsley to notable stadiums:
Bramall Lane = 17 miles
Hillsborough = 13 miles
Elland Road = 23 miles
John Smith's = 18 miles
Old Trafford = 37 miles
Etihad = 34 miles
You could be a ST holder for even the Manchester clubs from Barnsley and probably convince yourself you're a local. I often walk to games because I live 3½ miles away and it takes a bit under an hour. If I lived 13-23 miles away I would drive and my journey would be quicker 😅 | | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 01:10 - May 26 with 5498 views | bournemouthblue |
| Barnsley not happy… on 22:58 - May 25 by DinnernotTea |
Ever tried driving north Suffolk to south Suffolk? Our population is irrelevant when the roads down here are so poor. North Essex as we know is heavily into London clubs, so all in all we are streets ahead of most.
11,000 is absolutely piss poor for a large town. |
A successful Ipswich would appeal to North Essex fans for sure, the roads maybe poor but we have no competition in a fairly wide area |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 06:41 - May 26 with 5220 views | yorkshireblue |
Despite being below us and Derby in the average attendance table, they have sold a few tickets to Wembley and referring to them selves as ‘Attendance FC’ |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 06:51 - May 26 with 5201 views | Churchman |
| Barnsley not happy… on 22:58 - May 25 by DinnernotTea |
Ever tried driving north Suffolk to south Suffolk? Our population is irrelevant when the roads down here are so poor. North Essex as we know is heavily into London clubs, so all in all we are streets ahead of most.
11,000 is absolutely piss poor for a large town. |
I live in Kent. My mothers family come from Norfolk so believe it or not I am familiar with the area. Catchment area is important and I did see a stat years ago that suggested less that less than half the people that attend ITFC games live in Ipswich.
Yes, Essex is dominated by West Ham and there is of course also support for Colchester and Southend, but following ITFC doesn't stop at the county line. Travel up the A12 on a match day will tell you that.
Crowds of 9000 in the Duncan, Lyall era and not a lot better in the early GB and late MM periods hardly covers us in glory, but then attendances at all clubs ebb and flow over time for all sorts of reasons. Newcastle supporters will deny that there were only 16 or 17k at SJP watching top of the table Ipswich in 1991, but it’s true.
I would add that Barnsley’s jitteriness about their tickets being sold to SW seems to stem from their game with Millwall in 2016 at Wembley where there was a fair bit of trouble. Millwall trouble? What a surprise. [Post edited 26 May 2023 12:28]
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| Barnsley not happy… on 09:02 - May 26 with 4665 views | jayessess |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:54 - May 25 by Churchman |
Barnsley Borough has a population of 244k. That’s it. It’s hemmed in by other football clubs, Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield to the north, Sheffield, Rotherham to the south.
While Ipswich and surrounding area has a population of over 170k, Suffolk has a population of 760k. We also have support in Cambridgeshire and north Essex, so you could argue that proportionally Barnsley’s 11k is good. It certainly isn’t poor. |
I'm quite sceptical of this idea that lack of county competition is the main explanation for our solid fanbase. England's a small country, everywhere is relatively close to everywhere else. Regular match-going football fans are a minority of the population everywhere.
No insurmountable barriers to going to watch a bunch of other football clubs in the East, South East and London. There are plenty of one-county teams that are of limited interest to their population, plenty of teams that share cities and counties that have good support. Some teams through a combo of their history and culture manage to make themselves more meaningful to their local civic identity is all. |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 09:08 - May 26 with 4606 views | keighleyblue |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:40 - May 25 by Swansea_Blue |
Poor really. Barnsley’s nearly twice as large as Ipswich and we’d have no trouble selling them. But then they only get 10-11,000 in league games, so shouldn’t be that surprising. |
Barnsley is a market town in South Yorkshire, England. It is the main settlement of the Metropolitan Borough of Barnsley and the fourth largest settlement in South Yorkshire. The town's population was 96,888 in 2021, while the wider borough had a population of 244,600 in the 2021 census.
So the town itself is roughly the same size as Ipswich. If not slightly smaller. |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 09:14 - May 26 with 4528 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Barnsley not happy… on 06:51 - May 26 by Churchman |
I live in Kent. My mothers family come from Norfolk so believe it or not I am familiar with the area. Catchment area is important and I did see a stat years ago that suggested less that less than half the people that attend ITFC games live in Ipswich.
Yes, Essex is dominated by West Ham and there is of course also support for Colchester and Southend, but following ITFC doesn't stop at the county line. Travel up the A12 on a match day will tell you that.
Crowds of 9000 in the Duncan, Lyall era and not a lot better in the early GB and late MM periods hardly covers us in glory, but then attendances at all clubs ebb and flow over time for all sorts of reasons. Newcastle supporters will deny that there were only 16 or 17k at SJP watching top of the table Ipswich in 1991, but it’s true.
I would add that Barnsley’s jitteriness about their tickets being sold to SW seems to stem from their game with Millwall in 2016 at Wembley where there was a fair bit of trouble. Millwall trouble? What a surprise. [Post edited 26 May 2023 12:28]
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There’s solid support for Town in Essex, historically they’ve not had a decent team. Southend had a spell in the second tier and still get fairly good attendances for the Conference but they don’t attract much support from beyond the Southend area. There’s a lot of Essex based tractorboys because as you say historically Ipswich were the nearest successful team.
West Ham for me always had more of a London than an east Anglia identity. A lot of the West Ham fans in Essex are London exiles. They have played a blinder on the stadium though - moving it closer to the Essex catchment and the season tickets are so cheap that I know a few people that aren’t previously supporters but got tickets to take the kids for a cheap(ish) day out! | | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 10:29 - May 26 with 4225 views | Guthrum |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:54 - May 25 by Churchman |
Barnsley Borough has a population of 244k. That’s it. It’s hemmed in by other football clubs, Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield to the north, Sheffield, Rotherham to the south.
While Ipswich and surrounding area has a population of over 170k, Suffolk has a population of 760k. We also have support in Cambridgeshire and north Essex, so you could argue that proportionally Barnsley’s 11k is good. It certainly isn’t poor. |
Plus a massive ITFC diaspora, some of whom travel long distances to watch games at PR on a regular basis, not to mention packing out away ends across the country. |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 10:42 - May 26 with 4176 views | BigCommon |
Barnsley never claim to be "massive" in an arrogant way.
It's not a cheap day out, especially with current economic situation..Gonna cost north of 120 quid per person with travel, food, etc..
Some people are just priced out of it..It is what it is.
Don't get all this crowd boasting bllx from some fans.
Can understand them not wanting SW fans in their section. There's a fierce rivalry between the clubs. |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 10:45 - May 26 with 4165 views | clive_baker |
I don't really get the whole 'tinpot' thing when it comes to smaller clubs. Some clubs have bigger fan bases than others, it's inevitable. There's generally lots of factors at play too, other sports like Rugby League and Cricket are better adopted up there than East Anglia, and Barnsley is a club surrounded by near neighbours who have historically been more successful. Their support is what it is, if anything it makes their achievements even more impressive and the fact they've been in the Championship more recently than well supported clubs like Ipswich, Derby and Sheffield Wednesday reflects more on them and their relative underperformance.
Always struck me as a good club and nice, honest set of supporters on the whole. They can't magic up fans, and times are hard for a lot of people to justify a couple of hundred quid day out if you only take a passing interest in their fortunes.
Good on them, I for one hope they win on Monday because I've had a soft spot for them since they really were very gracious in defeat in the 2000 final. That and the fact I've developed a bit of a dislike for Sheffield Wednesday this season due to the arrogance of a few of their trappy fans on social media. Certainly not reflective of a fanbase I'm sure, but enough reasons on balance to be supporting the Tykes. |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 10:51 - May 26 with 4107 views | ArnieM |
They had no problem selling their tickets in 2000 …. It’s perhaps evidence if the hardship done people are living under. Barnsley is most definitely not an affluent town/ area. |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 12:14 - May 26 with 3899 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Barnsley not happy… on 01:10 - May 26 by bournemouthblue |
A successful Ipswich would appeal to North Essex fans for sure, the roads maybe poor but we have no competition in a fairly wide area |
I grew up in North Essex and we had a massive following from that area. Admittedly, that was during the Robson era where we had some success and the Premier League wasn't hyped to death. |  |
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| Barnsley not happy… on 12:17 - May 26 with 3887 views | Hogger |
| Barnsley not happy… on 21:54 - May 25 by Churchman |
Barnsley Borough has a population of 244k. That’s it. It’s hemmed in by other football clubs, Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield to the north, Sheffield, Rotherham to the south.
While Ipswich and surrounding area has a population of over 170k, Suffolk has a population of 760k. We also have support in Cambridgeshire and north Essex, so you could argue that proportionally Barnsley’s 11k is good. It certainly isn’t poor. |
"We also have support in Cambridgeshire and north Essex,".... and Norfolk! | | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 12:44 - May 26 with 3820 views | Churchman |
| Barnsley not happy… on 10:51 - May 26 by ArnieM |
They had no problem selling their tickets in 2000 …. It’s perhaps evidence if the hardship done people are living under. Barnsley is most definitely not an affluent town/ area. |
They sold just over 30k in 2000. I don’t know what their sales are for this game. 20-30k?
I know SW will have a big support and are making plenty of noise about it, but that might just be Owlstalk as they seem to have their fair share of strange people.
I would never call any club’s support tinpot. Well, maybe one club’s😃. I went to the Crewe v Brentford play off in about 1996 with a Crewe supporting friend. He and his family were as passionate about their team as anyone could be. Nothing tinpot about supporters that day even if the numbers were low. [Post edited 26 May 2023 12:45]
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| Barnsley not happy… on 12:47 - May 26 with 3801 views | DinDjarin |
I'm going as a Barnsley fan for the day with a load of Barnsley fans I know.
Should be good day out. |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 13:31 - May 26 with 3624 views | SamWhiteUK |
| Barnsley not happy… on 10:29 - May 26 by Guthrum |
Plus a massive ITFC diaspora, some of whom travel long distances to watch games at PR on a regular basis, not to mention packing out away ends across the country. |
Diaspora, great word. Will try and remember that! |  | | |
| Barnsley not happy… on 13:32 - May 26 with 3615 views | PhilTWTD |
| Barnsley not happy… on 10:51 - May 26 by ArnieM |
They had no problem selling their tickets in 2000 …. It’s perhaps evidence if the hardship done people are living under. Barnsley is most definitely not an affluent town/ area. |
I remember there was controversy when we played them as they hadn't sold their tickets and there was a continuing demand at our end. | | | |
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