| Axel a low risk option 17:54 - Sep 8 with 4975 views | hunty21 |
People saying hes a risk are bonker a risk signing would be someone on big wages long contract and costing a transfer fee this is a wise signing someone who can have time to get up to speed and not gonna be thrown i to the mix of it |  | | |  |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:03 - Sep 8 with 3819 views | PhilTWTD |
I'd imagine he'll be on a very decent wage, so not without risk in that sense given his injury history. |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:05 - Sep 8 with 3792 views | FrimleyBlue |
Whilst true to a point.
If he plays 0 games for us, his wages won't dissappear on the books when it comes to FFP. It's either gonna work or it doesn't and if doesn't then we've wasted a tidy figure you'd imagine.
To soon to know either way. |  |
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| Axel a low risk option on 18:08 - Sep 8 with 3787 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:03 - Sep 8 by PhilTWTD |
I'd imagine he'll be on a very decent wage, so not without risk in that sense given his injury history. |
Is this simply a complete risky punt, seeing as we need an extra CB, which wouldn't have been made if whoever was higher up the target list had been signed?
He's played less than 80 times in 8 years due to injury, and is currently unable to play as he's injured.**
Hopefully not a Camara MK II.
** Injured or unfit. Not sure which. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 18:09]
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| Axel a low risk option on 18:10 - Sep 8 with 3753 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:08 - Sep 8 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Is this simply a complete risky punt, seeing as we need an extra CB, which wouldn't have been made if whoever was higher up the target list had been signed?
He's played less than 80 times in 8 years due to injury, and is currently unable to play as he's injured.**
Hopefully not a Camara MK II.
** Injured or unfit. Not sure which. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 18:09]
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| Axel a low risk option on 18:25 - Sep 8 with 3705 views | HankScorpio |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:10 - Sep 8 by FrimleyBlue |
He has a bloody good agent |
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| Axel a low risk option on 18:40 - Sep 8 with 3596 views | Suffolktractor |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:08 - Sep 8 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Is this simply a complete risky punt, seeing as we need an extra CB, which wouldn't have been made if whoever was higher up the target list had been signed?
He's played less than 80 times in 8 years due to injury, and is currently unable to play as he's injured.**
Hopefully not a Camara MK II.
** Injured or unfit. Not sure which. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 18:09]
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Can’t understand why people are questioning McKenna and Ashton over this. Both have hardly put a foot wrong since they arrived at the club. Both know way more about running a professional football club than all of us put together.
Who ever we got in would ave cost good wages cos that is what happens in the Championship. But we have got someone in with Premiership experience who is highly rated by the manager and just as important who seems to want to play for this manager due to past experience with him, and we got him on a free. Absolute no brainier and good luck to the guy. | | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:45 - Sep 8 with 3547 views | bluefunk |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:10 - Sep 8 by FrimleyBlue |
He has a bloody good agent |
You never learn do you? |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:55 - Sep 8 with 3512 views | PhilTWTD |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:08 - Sep 8 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Is this simply a complete risky punt, seeing as we need an extra CB, which wouldn't have been made if whoever was higher up the target list had been signed?
He's played less than 80 times in 8 years due to injury, and is currently unable to play as he's injured.**
Hopefully not a Camara MK II.
** Injured or unfit. Not sure which. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 18:09]
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Clearly Kieran sees it as a risk worth taking. If they can get him up and playing regularly then it will be a very, very good deal.
We've had things work both ways in these circumstances, John Scales never really got going, but Massimo Luongo hasn't suffered the problems he had during most of his time at Sheffield Wednesday since he's been here. | | | |
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| Axel a low risk option on 19:22 - Sep 8 with 3404 views | RegencyBlue |
Given he couldn’t agree terms with Premier League Luton, still feels funny saying that, my guess is his wages per week are not peanuts!
This is a real 50/50 for me . If it works it’s a canny piece of business, if not we have wasted what is probably a not insignificant sum of money.
Time will tell! |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 19:40 - Sep 8 with 3333 views | ArnieM |
I’d say given his injury history it probably is a risk. But I do trust our staff to have sat down and gone through all things medical with the medical team who will have advised. This player is top quality . That’s never been the issue. The issue ( risk) I’d can he stay fit and as others have said , none of us know how this will pan out . So we have to hope it’s been a risk worth taking. I hope so anyway. |  |
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| Axel a low risk option on 19:54 - Sep 8 with 3287 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:45 - Sep 8 by bluefunk |
You never learn do you? |
Learn what.
An average of 71 minutes of football per season since he became a pro
His agent has done very well. | |
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| Axel a low risk option on 19:58 - Sep 8 with 3275 views | Vic |
| Axel a low risk option on 19:40 - Sep 8 by ArnieM |
I’d say given his injury history it probably is a risk. But I do trust our staff to have sat down and gone through all things medical with the medical team who will have advised. This player is top quality . That’s never been the issue. The issue ( risk) I’d can he stay fit and as others have said , none of us know how this will pan out . So we have to hope it’s been a risk worth taking. I hope so anyway. |
A bit like Sheff United signing Didsy - really poor injury record here, but was hardly injured there. Hopefully this is one we’ll be on the right side of. Like you say, you’d expect that out fitness guys must have drilled down to assess what his problems are and at least come out wit( the answer that the odds are that we can get and keep him fit. |  |
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| Axel a low risk option on 20:06 - Sep 8 with 3232 views | WicklowBlue |
| Axel a low risk option on 19:54 - Sep 8 by FrimleyBlue |
Learn what.
An average of 71 minutes of football per season since he became a pro
His agent has done very well. |
Balls!! Give the guy a chance, he clearly is talented and has had his career blunted by injury. It's a 1 year contract and if it comes good we could have a gem on our hands. |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 20:07 - Sep 8 with 3231 views | Alberto_the_frog |
Is pay per play still a thing? |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 20:09 - Sep 8 with 3217 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Axel a low risk option on 20:06 - Sep 8 by WicklowBlue |
Balls!! Give the guy a chance, he clearly is talented and has had his career blunted by injury. It's a 1 year contract and if it comes good we could have a gem on our hands. |
No ones saying don't give him a chance. | |
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| Axel a low risk option on 20:09 - Sep 8 with 3222 views | ArnieM |
| Axel a low risk option on 19:58 - Sep 8 by Vic |
A bit like Sheff United signing Didsy - really poor injury record here, but was hardly injured there. Hopefully this is one we’ll be on the right side of. Like you say, you’d expect that out fitness guys must have drilled down to assess what his problems are and at least come out wit( the answer that the odds are that we can get and keep him fit. |
Looking back on that era, I don’t think our medical team was anywhere near up to scratch. As you say Didsy had a shocking record here which seemed to evaporate not long after he left. But I believe they also utilised him differently . I don’t think he okayed 90 mins or every game did he? So they effectively nursed him through the season. But there were many other examples of players sustaining injuries that took forever to rehab. Thankfully the culture at the club is 100% professional from top to bottom now. | |
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| Axel a low risk option on 20:12 - Sep 8 with 3207 views | Dubtractor |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:55 - Sep 8 by PhilTWTD |
Clearly Kieran sees it as a risk worth taking. If they can get him up and playing regularly then it will be a very, very good deal.
We've had things work both ways in these circumstances, John Scales never really got going, but Massimo Luongo hasn't suffered the problems he had during most of his time at Sheffield Wednesday since he's been here. |
Hopefully that particular comparison is down to our current medical team! |  |
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| Axel a low risk option on 20:24 - Sep 8 with 3168 views | Vegtablue |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:08 - Sep 8 by ThisIsMyUsername |
Is this simply a complete risky punt, seeing as we need an extra CB, which wouldn't have been made if whoever was higher up the target list had been signed?
He's played less than 80 times in 8 years due to injury, and is currently unable to play as he's injured.**
Hopefully not a Camara MK II.
** Injured or unfit. Not sure which. [Post edited 8 Sep 2023 18:09]
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Maybe both! Great we've done it but I fall short of believing this means he's near the end of his injury. We've recently shown we're prepared to sign injured players in the hope they come good. | | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 21:04 - Sep 8 with 3077 views | RobTheMonk |
Teddy Bishop was mostly injured for a good chunk of his career. Last three years he’s appeared in over half to two thirds of all games and has appeared in five games this season.
Luongo as stated earlier is another who was injured a lot and now looks like a machine.
That he’s been given a year contract with an option for another means that they think he has something to offer. |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 21:37 - Sep 8 with 3010 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Axel a low risk option on 19:54 - Sep 8 by FrimleyBlue |
Learn what.
An average of 71 minutes of football per season since he became a pro
His agent has done very well. |
Not sure why you’re getting grief for point out he’s barely played any football. I hope he works out, we all do, but that won’t change the fact he’s played very little senior competitive football so far.
Still, KM obviously knows what he can do and we could have a real gem on our hands. It also says something about is that he’d rather be here than Luton too (even if turning down a Pl gig is a bit odd on the face of it).
Very much looking forward to seeing what he can do when he gets 9over his current injury and match fit. |  |
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| Axel a low risk option on 21:47 - Sep 8 with 2982 views | Wakh |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:03 - Sep 8 by PhilTWTD |
I'd imagine he'll be on a very decent wage, so not without risk in that sense given his injury history. |
But we can pay his wages on the company credit card then if he is faulty or broken we can get our money back. | | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 21:58 - Sep 8 with 2952 views | SWBlue22 |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:05 - Sep 8 by FrimleyBlue |
Whilst true to a point.
If he plays 0 games for us, his wages won't dissappear on the books when it comes to FFP. It's either gonna work or it doesn't and if doesn't then we've wasted a tidy figure you'd imagine.
To soon to know either way. |
Football is a risky business. This could be one of the shrewdest deals yet or one of the worst. Having said that back in the dark Evans days we literally be buzzing over signing a one legged Jay Tabb. How times have changed. |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 22:09 - Sep 8 with 2922 views | hunty21 |
| Axel a low risk option on 21:58 - Sep 8 by SWBlue22 |
Football is a risky business. This could be one of the shrewdest deals yet or one of the worst. Having said that back in the dark Evans days we literally be buzzing over signing a one legged Jay Tabb. How times have changed. |
Risky? hes not gonna be our top earner hes more likely to be like keogh or burgess wages if he get injured yeah he wont play but we move on and get someone else in nect year | | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 22:24 - Sep 8 with 2873 views | itfcsuth |
There is a risk given his injury record - there is also a potential of high level reward.
It’s a risk and reward deal, and we won’t be able to assess the outcome until 12 months time.
People have struggled with injuries prior and suddenly something just clicks, whether they develop robustness as they get older, whether it’s a change in medical team - and we now have a high level sports science department.
I always remember one ex player telling me about how they came in at half time in a pre season game and Jack Lankester was on the physio bed and couldn’t move due to his back problems - there was fear whether he’d ever get going again - he’s barely missed a kick of the ball at Cambridge.
This one’s an exciting deal for me. Welcome Axel! |  | | |
| Axel a low risk option on 22:55 - Sep 8 with 2808 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Axel a low risk option on 18:55 - Sep 8 by PhilTWTD |
Clearly Kieran sees it as a risk worth taking. If they can get him up and playing regularly then it will be a very, very good deal.
We've had things work both ways in these circumstances, John Scales never really got going, but Massimo Luongo hasn't suffered the problems he had during most of his time at Sheffield Wednesday since he's been here. |
Whilst true about Luongo. It was a knee injury specifically. It wasn't 8 years of hamstring, knee, back, ankle, thigh injuries.
Clearly we all just hope he can get past it. But I don't see why the luongo and broadhead situations are being used as there's just no comparison. | |
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