| Huge win for Labour in Scotland 06:46 - Oct 6 with 16334 views | GlasgowBlue |
Nationalists imploding. Tory collapse. Labour majority at the next election.
After years of mediocre leadership, Scottish Labour has been revitalised by Anas Sarwar, who is like a breath of fresh air.
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 07:29 - Oct 6 with 5200 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
In other election news....
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/06/labour-seeking-delay-antisemiti
"Labour is seeking to delay until after the general election a court case against five former staff alleging they leaked a report concerned with the party’s handling of antisemitism complaints, as its costs were said to have apparently soared to £1.4m.
The lawsuit concerns the 2020 leak of an 860-page document that claimed factional hostility towards Jeremy Corbyn contributed to the party’s ineffective handling of such complaints.
Proposing a trial date no earlier than 28 February 2025, almost five years after the leak, the party has claimed it would be “unfair and inappropriate” to have to go to trial while it runs a general election campaign."
How unfair might it be to fight an election with party machinery running against you I wonder! |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 07:31 - Oct 6 with 5188 views | Swansea_Blue |
Conservatives did well
*snigger* |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 07:44 - Oct 6 with 5166 views | DJR |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 07:31 - Oct 6 by Swansea_Blue |
Conservatives did well
*snigger* |
Interesting to note the following analysis from the BBC website.
"The way this ended as a two-horse race will raise questions about whether tactical voting was a factor.
It certainly has been in Scotland of late - in the 2019 election, almost every seat became a two-party contest between the SNP and whoever was most likely to challenge them locally.
Labour have probably benefited here, but would the same happen in a general election? The worry for the Conservatives in particular is that it might continue in a lopsided fashion.
After years of campaigning as opposition to the SNP, Tory voters might back Labour in seats where they are best placed to challenge them.
But will Labour and Lib Dem supporters be willing to vote Tory in the not-insubstantial list of SNP-Conservative marginal contests, when their whole general election campaign will be about kicking Rishi Sunak out of office?" [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 7:51]
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:12 - Oct 6 with 5085 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
You're desperate for an angle to attack Labour, but "A Labour source could be heard saying that the turnout was better than expected" and "Earlier, an SNP source told The National they would be surprised if the turnout was above 40%."
So the turnout was as expected, no story. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:27 - Oct 6 with 5053 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:12 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You're desperate for an angle to attack Labour, but "A Labour source could be heard saying that the turnout was better than expected" and "Earlier, an SNP source told The National they would be surprised if the turnout was above 40%."
So the turnout was as expected, no story. |
He used the same line when Labour won Shelby from the Tories. Despite by elections having traditionally lower turnouts than general elections. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:30 - Oct 6 with 5035 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:12 - Oct 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You're desperate for an angle to attack Labour, but "A Labour source could be heard saying that the turnout was better than expected" and "Earlier, an SNP source told The National they would be surprised if the turnout was above 40%."
So the turnout was as expected, no story. |
It is an observed reality, not an attack. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:34 - Oct 6 with 5013 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:27 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue |
He used the same line when Labour won Shelby from the Tories. Despite by elections having traditionally lower turnouts than general elections. |
I wonder if when turnouts are less than 50% the results of elections should be declared void.?
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:35 - Oct 6 with 5007 views | giant_stow |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:30 - Oct 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It is an observed reality, not an attack. |
Bollox! |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:40 - Oct 6 with 4977 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:35 - Oct 6 by giant_stow |
Bollox! |
That nobody knows what Labour under Starmer stands for and the turnout was spectacularly low. Which bit? | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:48 - Oct 6 with 4953 views | eireblue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:30 - Oct 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It is an observed reality, not an attack. |
An observation would be, the turnout was x%.
Another observation could be, x% turnout is higher/lower/similar to recent turnouts of w%, y%,z%
Adding the term “inspiring” is just an expression of opinion. |  | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:49 - Oct 6 with 4943 views | Cotty |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:34 - Oct 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I wonder if when turnouts are less than 50% the results of elections should be declared void.?
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That is the bar that the Tories have set for unions, for example. |  | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:50 - Oct 6 with 4939 views | giant_stow |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:48 - Oct 6 by eireblue |
An observation would be, the turnout was x%.
Another observation could be, x% turnout is higher/lower/similar to recent turnouts of w%, y%,z%
Adding the term “inspiring” is just an expression of opinion. |
Precisely. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:51 - Oct 6 with 4933 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:34 - Oct 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I wonder if when turnouts are less than 50% the results of elections should be declared void.?
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I would imagine that if such a law was passed, the turnout would be much higher.
However, we play under the current rules. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:53 - Oct 6 with 4909 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:50 - Oct 6 by giant_stow |
Precisely. |
What was it they used to say?
“If people can’t support the democratically elected leader of the Labour Party then they should fcuk off and join the Tories”. | |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:57 - Oct 6 with 4891 views | Keno |
Interestingly, or at lest I think it is, under my preferred PR alternative vote option that by election would have been settled in the round of voting |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:03 - Oct 6 with 4845 views | Guthrum |
That's about the normal level for a by-election anywhere in Britain, a bit over half what you'd expect in a GE. Par for the course, especially if the weather was not good and one or more of the main parties is very demoralised - their habitual voters simply don't turn up, rather than switching. |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:21 - Oct 6 with 4786 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:03 - Oct 6 by Guthrum |
That's about the normal level for a by-election anywhere in Britain, a bit over half what you'd expect in a GE. Par for the course, especially if the weather was not good and one or more of the main parties is very demoralised - their habitual voters simply don't turn up, rather than switching. |
We know this. He knows this. We all know he knows this. This thread has become a silly dance. | |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:28 - Oct 6 with 4758 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
“Who are this 'Labour' you speak of and what do they stand for? ”
You’ll be disappointed with the Nationalists then:
https://www.snp.org/policy-area/economy/
Basically no economic policies of any substance, they aren’t even offering unicorns and revenue based on oil at $110bbl any more…. |  | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:34 - Oct 6 with 4739 views | DJR |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:57 - Oct 6 by Keno |
Interestingly, or at lest I think it is, under my preferred PR alternative vote option that by election would have been settled in the round of voting |
Is your preferred form of voting like mine, where my vote counts for more than the rest of the electorate in my constituency? [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 9:34]
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:39 - Oct 6 with 4718 views | baxterbasics |
If Labour are able to win back ground form the SNP in Scotland, that should be their majority guaranteed in the coming GE. |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:57 - Oct 6 with 4669 views | Zapers |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:40 - Oct 6 by BanksterDebtSlave |
That nobody knows what Labour under Starmer stands for and the turnout was spectacularly low. Which bit? |
Yours is such a minority view, it's almost embarrassing. | | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 09:58 - Oct 6 with 4667 views | leitrimblue |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 08:53 - Oct 6 by GlasgowBlue |
What was it they used to say?
“If people can’t support the democratically elected leader of the Labour Party then they should fcuk off and join the Tories”. |
Luckily Keir as saved um the hassle by turning Labour into a half arsed version of the Tories |  | | |
| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:08 - Oct 6 with 4644 views | itfcjoe |
Tough day for the SNP, great result for Labour - the SNP are in a real muddle for me, claim to be progressive but nearly elect Kate Forbes as leader - Starmer's Labour going places, just need to not fall into Tory traps over the next few months |  |
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| Huge win for Labour in Scotland on 10:11 - Oct 6 with 4620 views | blueasfook |
I guess the Scottish electorate are sick of endless bleating about IndyRef2 or have they toned that down now since Sturgeon was kicked out? |  |
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