| Delap... 12:50 - Apr 15 with 4722 views | Jack27 |
Something that I don't think has been mentioned about the Delap release clause...
Yes - Man City could exercise their supposed £40m buyback and sell him on OR we could lose him for £30m once relegated...
BUT (and this might be naive what with the ruthlessness of football)
Is there a possibility Delap could sign a new contract with us to remove the clause? I only say it because (and this could be the naive part) Ipswich signed him and helped him be the player he is. He might feel he owes it to the club to repay that by signing the contract to remove it, still with an agreement to sell to a Premier League team, but without a clause stipulating the amount. |  | | |  |
| Delap... on 12:53 - Apr 15 with 3853 views | Herbivore |
I'd say the chances of that are around zero. |  |
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| Delap... on 13:32 - Apr 15 with 3672 views | Vaughan8 |
Some people are saying, or I've read that he wants European football too |  | | |
| Delap... on 13:36 - Apr 15 with 3642 views | Blue_In_Boston |
A player, and his agent, willing to change the contract because they believe they owe the club something...
Come on, surely you don't believe that is likely? Kissing the badge, saying what fans want to hear when signing is all fakery, especially when he has no long term allegiance to us at all. | | | |
| Delap... on 13:38 - Apr 15 with 3623 views | MattinLondon |
| Delap... on 13:32 - Apr 15 by Vaughan8 |
Some people are saying, or I've read that he wants European football too |
World Cup year next season - if he wants to be part of that then not only does he need to stay in the PL (that’s if he stays in England) but he needs regular football as well. |  | | |
| Delap... on 13:38 - Apr 15 with 3616 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Very unlikely and his representatives, who do the negotiating, would be massively against it. Why would they put it in in the first place, only to remove it again because their client's grateful about his development? A bidding war on his contract makes money for him and them, and the more teams in for him the better that will be.
I like your creativity but there's clutching at straws and there's clutching at straws! |  |
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| Delap... on 13:45 - Apr 15 with 3586 views | AndyGoodchild |
It's not going to happen is it.
Any agent worth his salt will be using the fact any buying club is getting Delap for a fraction of his true worth to get a bumper contract for his client. Unless we are willing to make it really worth their while to sign a new deal to remove that benefit why would they go anywhere near it?
I can bet you Ben Johnson's sign-on fee/agent fees will be higher than our other signings because his agent will have used the fact we are getting a PL regular for no transfer fee to get a bumper deal for his client. [Post edited 15 Apr 13:47]
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| Delap... on 13:54 - Apr 15 with 3512 views | Radlett_blue |
| Delap... on 13:32 - Apr 15 by Vaughan8 |
Some people are saying, or I've read that he wants European football too |
Indeed, he's on the fringes of the England squad & playing for a club in European competition would surely help him advance his career. |  |
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| Delap... on 14:42 - Apr 15 with 3373 views | Sharkey |
Hardly the same level of finances involved, but I believe Smodiczs re-signed for Colchester although he knew he was leaving, to make sure U's did not get ripped off by any tribunal and/or dastardly Mr Ashton at Bristol C. Top bloke. |  | | |
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| Delap... on 16:00 - Apr 15 with 3219 views | skinnybob72 |
| Delap... on 13:38 - Apr 15 by MattinLondon |
World Cup year next season - if he wants to be part of that then not only does he need to stay in the PL (that’s if he stays in England) but he needs regular football as well. |
I suspect that the 2026 WC is a big blow for our hopes of keeping Delap.
If he stays there is zero chance of him making the squad, just cannot see a Championship striker being picked.
He needs to be playing the PL, or move to one of the big clubs in Italy / Spain / Germany to have any chance. | | | |
| Delap... on 17:03 - Apr 15 with 3062 views | Kievthegreat |
Absolutely zero chance.
If I was to be a bit zany, you could try and offer him a new contract with a higher release clause, but offer him a big signing fee. i.e change the release clause to £50m, but give him a £10m signing fee. However the issue will still be that he can demand that fee off any of his current suitors because his price is so low and he'll have so many that plenty will throw a lot of money his way in a bidding war. |  | | |
| Delap... on 17:14 - Apr 15 with 2997 views | textbackup |
| Delap... on 12:53 - Apr 15 by Herbivore |
I'd say the chances of that are around zero. |
So you’re telling me there’s a chance…. I hear ya |  |
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| Delap... on 17:29 - Apr 15 with 2925 views | Jack27 |
| Delap... on 13:36 - Apr 15 by Blue_In_Boston |
A player, and his agent, willing to change the contract because they believe they owe the club something...
Come on, surely you don't believe that is likely? Kissing the badge, saying what fans want to hear when signing is all fakery, especially when he has no long term allegiance to us at all. |
The thinking behind it was Cunha at Wolves. He signed a new contract in January to increase the minimum fee release clause in his contract to £63m, knowing that in the summer someone will trigger it. | | | |
| Delap... on 17:31 - Apr 15 with 2909 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
Surely the buy-back clause is in the sale contract between ITFC and City rather than the player’s contract? So issuing a new player contract would just mean us paying out more money in signing fees just to lose him to City who will then sell him on for a £10-20m profit. | | | |
| Delap... on 20:45 - Apr 15 with 2665 views | Sharkey |
| Delap... on 16:00 - Apr 15 by skinnybob72 |
I suspect that the 2026 WC is a big blow for our hopes of keeping Delap.
If he stays there is zero chance of him making the squad, just cannot see a Championship striker being picked.
He needs to be playing the PL, or move to one of the big clubs in Italy / Spain / Germany to have any chance. |
I think similar is the case with Cajuste, however much he might like a pint of Adnams. | | | |
| Delap... on 20:58 - Apr 15 with 2610 views | hunty21 |
I did a post on this and thought the same in order to remove the relegation clause or increase it but , obviously his agent would advise against it but he's still young and defining on who comes calling he may opt for another year with a hefty pay rise not sure how good it would be in terms of spending money elsewhere and I feel hirst links the play better than delap | | | |
| Delap... on 21:28 - Apr 15 with 2521 views | WeirdFishes |
Why would he do that? It’s just a ridiculous suggestion, he’s going, get over it. |  |
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| Delap... on 09:33 - Apr 16 with 2122 views | Jack27 |
| Delap... on 21:28 - Apr 15 by WeirdFishes |
Why would he do that? It’s just a ridiculous suggestion, he’s going, get over it. |
Why did Cunha do it? | | | |
| Delap... on 09:44 - Apr 16 with 2081 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Delap... on 09:33 - Apr 16 by Jack27 |
Why did Cunha do it? |
I suspect with Cunha, he was getting a significant wage hike that would have benefitted him in the short-term as well as the release clause that enables him flexibility in the summer.
Delap already had the clause and the wage rise probably wouldn't have made a huge difference. He's going to triple/ quadruple his wages this summer regardless.
It's a shame that we're going to lose him for so little but hopefully if he turns into the player we know he can be, we will make that other £20M we should have had back. | | | |
| Delap... on 09:53 - Apr 16 with 2014 views | Herbivore |
| Delap... on 09:33 - Apr 16 by Jack27 |
Why did Cunha do it? |
Probably for a massive wage increase and signing bonus? | |
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| Delap... on 09:55 - Apr 16 with 2006 views | jayessess |
| Delap... on 09:33 - Apr 16 by Jack27 |
Why did Cunha do it? |
Wolves presumably offered him a big wage rise to stay for the rest of the season.
Wolves satisfy their star player for the rest of the season. Cunha gets more money in wages, gets his move in the Summer anyway. The deal will ultimately have cost Wolves money rather than safeguarding a higher fee.
Doesn't apply with Delap. He already has a low release clause in his contract, which means he can get suitors to compete on wages. Anything that makes his fee more expensive is money directly out of his pocket. |  |
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| Delap... on 09:56 - Apr 16 with 1987 views | NedPlimpton |
| Delap... on 09:33 - Apr 16 by Jack27 |
Why did Cunha do it? |
Did Cunha's previous contract have a release clause in it? Because by all accounts his new one does |  | | |
| Delap... on 09:57 - Apr 16 with 1982 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Delap... on 09:55 - Apr 16 by jayessess |
Wolves presumably offered him a big wage rise to stay for the rest of the season.
Wolves satisfy their star player for the rest of the season. Cunha gets more money in wages, gets his move in the Summer anyway. The deal will ultimately have cost Wolves money rather than safeguarding a higher fee.
Doesn't apply with Delap. He already has a low release clause in his contract, which means he can get suitors to compete on wages. Anything that makes his fee more expensive is money directly out of his pocket. |
Unless we offer him more wages than any other team in the world would offer him! | |
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| Delap... on 10:06 - Apr 16 with 1960 views | Len_Brennan |
This is Delap's contract with the club & the clause is one that he & his representatives wanted put in for his benefit. Nobody, not even himself, could have predicted how well he would do in his first full season of men's football, and that pretty much all the top PL sides would be interested in signing him, so £30m probably seemed like a more than reasonable amount at the time.
What I haven't seen discussed (maybe I've missed it) is whether or not we looked to offer him an improved contract in January, which could have addressed the value of the relegation clause, given that it was clear the likes of Chelsea, Spurs & Everton wanted him by then, while Man Utd, Newcastle & even Liverpool were also being linked as 'watching' him. He was been spoken of as a £50m+ player, even beforexa potential bidding war
He had certainly justified improved terms already, especially given our failure to bring in Broja, Ioannidis & Lathe Latte to share the burden of senior striker, and Hirst's injury troubles. It's hard to believe that the club didn't try; sure Ashton & McKenna still believed we would/could stay up, but we were already 1 of only 4 that were possible sides that were clearly going to fill the 3 relegation spots.
I can only assume that we did make an approach, but Delap & his reps were comfortable with the contract situation as it is.
Lower transfer fee => more clubs making an offer => higher signing on fee & wages. | | | |
| Delap... on 10:09 - Apr 16 with 1935 views | ArnieM |
| Delap... on 13:38 - Apr 15 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Very unlikely and his representatives, who do the negotiating, would be massively against it. Why would they put it in in the first place, only to remove it again because their client's grateful about his development? A bidding war on his contract makes money for him and them, and the more teams in for him the better that will be.
I like your creativity but there's clutching at straws and there's clutching at straws! |
But haven't you just said a bidding war benefits the player (and his agent),so surely that suggests signing a new contract without the release clause of a mere £30m, is oth feasible AND desirable? |  |
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| Delap... on 10:28 - Apr 16 with 1876 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
The person who potentially loses out here (other than us) is the agent. Agents are normally paid as a percentage of the sign-on fee, and that percentage is capped by FIFA (not the amount, but the percentage, so the agent gets paid more, the higher the transfer fee goes) | | | |
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