| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) 18:45 - Jul 25 with 36111 views | bluelagos |
Quarantine for returning to the UK just announced on BBC breaking news.
FFS. [Post edited 25 Jul 2020 18:45]
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 13:43 - Jul 26 with 8316 views | TractorWood |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 10:25 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Not at all, will be in Dumfries and Galloway. |
Lovely part of the world. Check out Mabie forest, a walk up Criffel or the Cairnsmore of Fleet is highly recommended too.
I'm going to the Lakes in September but wouldn't dream of booking anything abroad atm. Just asking for a delay, cancellation, quarantine etc. Will always shock me how desperate Brits are to go abroad and get burnt the one time of year the weather in the UK is pretty decent. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:25 - Jul 26 with 8270 views | 26_Paz |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 12:16 - Jul 26 by ElderGrizzly |
The decision we made was blanket for immediate impact as travel patterns of Spanish citizens was in danger of causing peaks on the islands. Now local lockdowns are back in place in Spain it will help.
The Canaries and Balearics were always planned to be relaxed within a few weeks once we see if rates there are still low. That needs 2 weeks though.
So Paz might get his wish to head off to Tenerife. Phew :) |
Thanks mate! |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:26 - Jul 26 with 8270 views | 26_Paz |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 12:41 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Hopefully Paz's apartment has no WiFi. |
No roaming charges Herbie ... God bless the EU | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:30 - Jul 26 with 8256 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:26 - Jul 26 by 26_Paz |
No roaming charges Herbie ... God bless the EU |
Being part of the Internationalist brotherhood of humanity I am sure it will continue despite Brexit. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 15:02 - Jul 26 with 8216 views | vapour_trail |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 13:43 - Jul 26 by TractorWood |
Lovely part of the world. Check out Mabie forest, a walk up Criffel or the Cairnsmore of Fleet is highly recommended too.
I'm going to the Lakes in September but wouldn't dream of booking anything abroad atm. Just asking for a delay, cancellation, quarantine etc. Will always shock me how desperate Brits are to go abroad and get burnt the one time of year the weather in the UK is pretty decent. |
The lakes is a really beautiful part of the world. I’ve spent a very wet summer holiday there in the past.
Interesting viewpoint, I wouldn’t be surprised if the transmission rate is higher in windermere than it is on tenerife or menorca. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 15:04 - Jul 26 with 8219 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 20:21 - Jul 25 by ElderGrizzly |
Yep, decision was made Thursday but delayed by 48 hours at Spain’s request to see if rates would drop.
Anyone heading out now immediately has insurance invalidated as we are back to “against all but essential travel” for Mainland Spain too.
Slightly looser for Canaries and Balearics, but quarantine still applies for those.
Spain will not be the last to have this reintroduction in the next few months. There are a few European countries not far behind stats wise |
Your boss disagrees with you, claimed. On Sky this morning they got The information Friday. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 15:24 - Jul 26 with 8205 views | bluelagos |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 15:04 - Jul 26 by Pinewoodblue |
Your boss disagrees with you, claimed. On Sky this morning they got The information Friday. |
Saw that clip earlier and thought either ME is lieing or the Foreign Secretary is. I know who my money is on. | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 15:28 - Jul 26 with 8201 views | ronnyd |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 10:25 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Not at all, will be in Dumfries and Galloway. |
Will you be supporting Queen of the South? |  | | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:01 - Jul 26 with 8167 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 15:24 - Jul 26 by bluelagos |
Saw that clip earlier and thought either ME is lieing or the Foreign Secretary is. I know who my money is on. |
We have meetings every day on the data. He might not of course be briefed on every change. Spain has been on our ‘watch list’ for the last 7 days as cases have spiked.
And it isn’t our final decision of course. That is down to Mr Schapps who then appeared to say f*ck it and go on holiday anyway |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:09 - Jul 26 with 8156 views | linhdi |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:01 - Jul 26 by ElderGrizzly |
We have meetings every day on the data. He might not of course be briefed on every change. Spain has been on our ‘watch list’ for the last 7 days as cases have spiked.
And it isn’t our final decision of course. That is down to Mr Schapps who then appeared to say f*ck it and go on holiday anyway |
I was assuming someone sent an email with the quarantine requirement as a wind-up for Shapps, but it went viral.
Only the UK govt can be so incompetent as to have to quarantine their own Transport Secretary!!! Bet he's wishing he could adopt a nice safe alter ego, to be able to avoid the 14 days. Oh. | | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 17:11 - Jul 26 with 8097 views | GaryCooper |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 23:35 - Jul 25 by BarcaBlue |
The cynic in me would say this is more about boosting the UK tourist industry (and possibly propaganda purposes) than anything else. There have been outbreaks but with the exception of Barcelona most appear to be away from tourist routes and quite localised. |
Shameful commercial protectionism. |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 17:35 - Jul 26 with 8070 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 12:16 - Jul 26 by ElderGrizzly |
The decision we made was blanket for immediate impact as travel patterns of Spanish citizens was in danger of causing peaks on the islands. Now local lockdowns are back in place in Spain it will help.
The Canaries and Balearics were always planned to be relaxed within a few weeks once we see if rates there are still low. That needs 2 weeks though.
So Paz might get his wish to head off to Tenerife. Phew :) |
So why didn't UK lockdown Liverpool and Leeds after mass gatherings, likely to lead to spikes? | | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:11 - Jul 26 with 8033 views | mikeybloo88 |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 11:26 - Jul 26 by Herbivore |
Visits to Spain aren't banned so I'm not sure what your point is on that one. People can take their own decision on whether they feel safe to travel but they will have to quarantine when they return. That's a public health decision and a fairly reasonable one in the circumstances. |
Effectively they are banned when FCO advise against travel as they have done, so I'm sure you understood the point ...we'd be hopping mad if we relied heavily on south coast tourism say, and other countries did the same thing and effectively stopped their citizens travelling to the UK because of a spike in Newcastle or Dundee. |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 19:05 - Jul 26 with 8002 views | 26_Paz |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:01 - Jul 26 by ElderGrizzly |
We have meetings every day on the data. He might not of course be briefed on every change. Spain has been on our ‘watch list’ for the last 7 days as cases have spiked.
And it isn’t our final decision of course. That is down to Mr Schapps who then appeared to say f*ck it and go on holiday anyway |
Who do you work for if you don’t mind me asking? Do you get insider info on this? | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 19:14 - Jul 26 with 7986 views | footers |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 19:05 - Jul 26 by 26_Paz |
Who do you work for if you don’t mind me asking? Do you get insider info on this? |
AFAIK, Grizzly works for the FCO. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 20:34 - Jul 26 with 7921 views | Seablu |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 08:51 - Jul 26 by 26_Paz |
You are a nasty, hateful piece of work. |
Coming from you my sweet, that is high praise indeed. |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 08:27 - Jul 27 with 7824 views | itfcjoe |
That's a shame, feel for those who have travelled out there - I know people think those travelling are mad but sure plenty would have had non-refundable holidays booked, or second properties that they needed to get across to.
I'd already decided not to go abroad this year before all this as my kids are at a slightly awkward age to do so, and glad we did make that decision. My in-Laws have booked for us all to go to Madeira across the New Years break - which will be easier as 4 of us to look after the kids so should all get a bit of time to relax.
I wasn't too worried about that as felt a long time away but it is getting closer and despite Madeira being almost Corona-free (>100 cases, 0 deaths) it is still requiring a quarantine when you return - will see how things are come December |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 10:15 - Jul 27 with 7759 views | Libero |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 12:12 - Jul 26 by bluelagos |
Think that's a tad unfair Libby. If a family who live together, travel together and then get an appartment in the Costa del wherever, all in line with govt advice, then I think labelling them selfish is unfair.
I would agree where people are hoping to do an 18:30s style trip with foam parties etc. But most holiday makers are family units and will be staying in those units.
And if you think they are wrong to go, surely your ire should be directed at those who make the rules rather than those who holiday inline with them? |
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
In my opinion we all have a responsibility to keep our social activity and movements to an absolute minimum, I don't think people realise just how tenuous the current situation is.
While I understand your point I can't accept that it's justifiable in the current climate to travel elsewhere in the world when there's a highly infectious virus knocking about that easily transfers between people. A holiday abroad is not essential, it's great that we can now spend time with those we love, but that will only be allowed to continue if things continue as they are, that means making everyone's movements and interactions as predictable and safe as possible.
People f*cking off to the costa del sol for a week away throws in way too many variants, even if they are staying in a villa in their family unit, etc. |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 13:13 - Jul 27 with 7700 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 10:15 - Jul 27 by Libero |
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
In my opinion we all have a responsibility to keep our social activity and movements to an absolute minimum, I don't think people realise just how tenuous the current situation is.
While I understand your point I can't accept that it's justifiable in the current climate to travel elsewhere in the world when there's a highly infectious virus knocking about that easily transfers between people. A holiday abroad is not essential, it's great that we can now spend time with those we love, but that will only be allowed to continue if things continue as they are, that means making everyone's movements and interactions as predictable and safe as possible.
People f*cking off to the costa del sol for a week away throws in way too many variants, even if they are staying in a villa in their family unit, etc. |
New cases in Spain were , until late last week, running between 400-500 a day. They jumped dramatically on Thursday to over 2,600 and another 2,200 on Friday they haven’t reported any figures for last 72 hours.
Clearly there was cause for concern. | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 13:21 - Jul 27 with 7687 views | Crawfordsboot |
Hi Lagos
We are in Seville at our daughters. Flights out from Geneva at the start of the month were cancelled so we drove the near 2,000 k to see our 9 month old granddaughter - as you do.
In the part of Spain, things seem to be under control. The secondary outbreaks appear to be very localized, most significantly in the north east. The restaurants are all being very careful. No breakfast buffets, tables and seats sprayed and wiped, single use paper menus or code to read via mobiles. So with normal precautions of masks when out and hand wash and hand gel I feel comfortable.
Got to pass through the northeast of Spain on the way back but it’s easy enough to avoid the hotspots.
My take is that the Govt. could have been more selective and choose to isolate arrivals from certain destinations but prefer to try to recover a bit of their lost credibility by playing the strong and decisive card. Limp late and ineffective fits them much better! |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 20:05 - Jul 27 with 7576 views | jeera |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 10:15 - Jul 27 by Libero |
Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
In my opinion we all have a responsibility to keep our social activity and movements to an absolute minimum, I don't think people realise just how tenuous the current situation is.
While I understand your point I can't accept that it's justifiable in the current climate to travel elsewhere in the world when there's a highly infectious virus knocking about that easily transfers between people. A holiday abroad is not essential, it's great that we can now spend time with those we love, but that will only be allowed to continue if things continue as they are, that means making everyone's movements and interactions as predictable and safe as possible.
People f*cking off to the costa del sol for a week away throws in way too many variants, even if they are staying in a villa in their family unit, etc. |
Yeah, I don't want to offend anyone but I'm not getting it either. What's the thing about holidays that is so important?
Seeing the word 'hardship' over some people not having the holiday they want for one year doesn't sit right. I can't spot any hardship there.
And there's lots of talk surrounding the possible risk of bringing the virus back here, coupled with people saying the rates are generally higher here anyway. There doesn't seem to be much talk of us maybe taking it over there in that case.
Is one year without a holiday a big deal under the circumstances? |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:22 - Jul 27 with 7519 views | 26_Paz |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 20:05 - Jul 27 by jeera |
Yeah, I don't want to offend anyone but I'm not getting it either. What's the thing about holidays that is so important?
Seeing the word 'hardship' over some people not having the holiday they want for one year doesn't sit right. I can't spot any hardship there.
And there's lots of talk surrounding the possible risk of bringing the virus back here, coupled with people saying the rates are generally higher here anyway. There doesn't seem to be much talk of us maybe taking it over there in that case.
Is one year without a holiday a big deal under the circumstances? |
Not having a holiday is not an hardship. But if you’ve not got corona and you’re going somewhere where there isn’t much corona then what’s the harm? If I can’t go to Tenerife I will book somewhere else | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:25 - Jul 27 with 7510 views | jeera |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:22 - Jul 27 by 26_Paz |
Not having a holiday is not an hardship. But if you’ve not got corona and you’re going somewhere where there isn’t much corona then what’s the harm? If I can’t go to Tenerife I will book somewhere else |
Because the greater distance we travel the greater the chance of transference; we come into contact with more things, more people.
That's up to you, I'm not criticizing, you're hardly alone.
What is clear is that if everyone was a bit more responsible then the sooner we could maybe get back to what we consider to be normal. | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:25 - Jul 27 with 7510 views | TractorWood |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 20:05 - Jul 27 by jeera |
Yeah, I don't want to offend anyone but I'm not getting it either. What's the thing about holidays that is so important?
Seeing the word 'hardship' over some people not having the holiday they want for one year doesn't sit right. I can't spot any hardship there.
And there's lots of talk surrounding the possible risk of bringing the virus back here, coupled with people saying the rates are generally higher here anyway. There doesn't seem to be much talk of us maybe taking it over there in that case.
Is one year without a holiday a big deal under the circumstances? |
Totally agree. Needless but seems to be something in the British mentality that is insistent on going to a ridiculously hot country, where they don't probably speak the language to sit by a pool and get burnt.
This is despite unprecedented restrictions in travel due to a virus and pandemic we still know basically nothing about. | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:49 - Jul 27 with 7483 views | IpswichKnight |
We’ve changed one holiday as we couldn’t be sure if Slovenia was going to green light uk citizens ( turns out they have but only recently) instead we’re heading to Norway for 10 days. Kind of hoping might have picked one country that looks ok! | | | |
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