| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) 18:45 - Jul 25 with 36112 views | bluelagos |
Quarantine for returning to the UK just announced on BBC breaking news.
FFS. [Post edited 25 Jul 2020 18:45]
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 09:37 - Jul 28 with 4412 views | mikeybloo88 |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:25 - Jul 27 by TractorWood |
Totally agree. Needless but seems to be something in the British mentality that is insistent on going to a ridiculously hot country, where they don't probably speak the language to sit by a pool and get burnt.
This is despite unprecedented restrictions in travel due to a virus and pandemic we still know basically nothing about. |
Not everyone goes on holiday abroad to sit on a beach and drink beer... a villa in the mountains of Majorca, Greece or Croatia with its own pool and a couple of local outdoor restaurants to dine at safely sounds rather good to me. The getting to and from is less appealing of course. Also, there are quite a few people who've put in a real shift over the last 4 months who maybe want and deserve more of a stresss relieving break than just a week in the rain in Britain, so those who are roundly condemning everyone who wants to go abroad might consider that too. |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:07 - Jul 28 with 4344 views | Libero |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 09:37 - Jul 28 by mikeybloo88 |
Not everyone goes on holiday abroad to sit on a beach and drink beer... a villa in the mountains of Majorca, Greece or Croatia with its own pool and a couple of local outdoor restaurants to dine at safely sounds rather good to me. The getting to and from is less appealing of course. Also, there are quite a few people who've put in a real shift over the last 4 months who maybe want and deserve more of a stresss relieving break than just a week in the rain in Britain, so those who are roundly condemning everyone who wants to go abroad might consider that too. |
What a load of b0llocks.
I stand by my original post.
Unless you’re going door to door in your own transport to an apartment/house that you can guarantee that nobody has been in for at least 2 weeks then you’re taking an unnecessary risk.
I’m one of those who has “put a real shift in over the last 4 months” - I’d love to get away and decompress, but not at the potential expense of others.
I’ve had the virus, it hit me hard, I don’t intend on doing anything that increases the likelihood of anyone else getting sick.
Don’t be selfish, keep your social circles small, keep your movements predictable and small, you do not “need” a holiday, you “want” one. |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:15 - Jul 28 with 4328 views | CBBlue |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:07 - Jul 28 by Libero |
What a load of b0llocks.
I stand by my original post.
Unless you’re going door to door in your own transport to an apartment/house that you can guarantee that nobody has been in for at least 2 weeks then you’re taking an unnecessary risk.
I’m one of those who has “put a real shift in over the last 4 months” - I’d love to get away and decompress, but not at the potential expense of others.
I’ve had the virus, it hit me hard, I don’t intend on doing anything that increases the likelihood of anyone else getting sick.
Don’t be selfish, keep your social circles small, keep your movements predictable and small, you do not “need” a holiday, you “want” one. |
Personally I have no desire to go on an aeroplane anytime soon but I'm not sure what mikeybloo8 said is a load of b0llocks tbf. I think the fact there were a fair few doctors/nhs workers on holiday in Spain (talking about the situation in the news/media) would suggest he probably has a good point. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:18 - Jul 28 with 4325 views | Libero |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:15 - Jul 28 by CBBlue |
Personally I have no desire to go on an aeroplane anytime soon but I'm not sure what mikeybloo8 said is a load of b0llocks tbf. I think the fact there were a fair few doctors/nhs workers on holiday in Spain (talking about the situation in the news/media) would suggest he probably has a good point. |
Doctors and NHS workers aren’t immune from making poor choices, my wife’s cousin is a nurse in Essex and she’s been carrying on like nothing has happened! | | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:21 - Jul 28 with 4319 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:15 - Jul 28 by CBBlue |
Personally I have no desire to go on an aeroplane anytime soon but I'm not sure what mikeybloo8 said is a load of b0llocks tbf. I think the fact there were a fair few doctors/nhs workers on holiday in Spain (talking about the situation in the news/media) would suggest he probably has a good point. |
Different people have different risk profiles.
If you want to go away and reduce social distancing by flying etc then you stand a higher risk of catching Covid-19 and obviously if you are overseas you stand a chance of disruption either by being quarantined on return or locked down in your hotel.
Travel, but don't moan when it goes wrong. |  | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:25 - Jul 28 with 4302 views | footers |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:21 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Different people have different risk profiles.
If you want to go away and reduce social distancing by flying etc then you stand a higher risk of catching Covid-19 and obviously if you are overseas you stand a chance of disruption either by being quarantined on return or locked down in your hotel.
Travel, but don't moan when it goes wrong. |
This is an outlier example but shows just how irresponsible some people are. This fella I know is a 'travel vlogger' who was in Italy back when it was in lockdown in maybe February/March time. Hasn't been anywhere since but has now planned an itinerary for the rest of the year, taking in about half a dozen countries. Totally stupid, especially as each trip will only last a few days and he'll be returning to the UK each time. All this just because flights are cheap now. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:25 - Jul 28 with 4303 views | Libero |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:21 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Different people have different risk profiles.
If you want to go away and reduce social distancing by flying etc then you stand a higher risk of catching Covid-19 and obviously if you are overseas you stand a chance of disruption either by being quarantined on return or locked down in your hotel.
Travel, but don't moan when it goes wrong. |
There was a woman on BBC news the other day, she was on holiday in one part of Spain with her daughter and her husband and sons in a different part of Spain, also on holiday. She then moaned about the logistics of all getting together again the following week for their “family holiday” in France and posed a whole host of hypothetical situations/variables and asked rhetorical questions that were easily answered, she just didn’t like the answers.
Entitled t0sser. | | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:02 - Jul 28 with 4245 views | Ryorry |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 09:37 - Jul 28 by mikeybloo88 |
Not everyone goes on holiday abroad to sit on a beach and drink beer... a villa in the mountains of Majorca, Greece or Croatia with its own pool and a couple of local outdoor restaurants to dine at safely sounds rather good to me. The getting to and from is less appealing of course. Also, there are quite a few people who've put in a real shift over the last 4 months who maybe want and deserve more of a stresss relieving break than just a week in the rain in Britain, so those who are roundly condemning everyone who wants to go abroad might consider that too. |
This might come as a surprise to you, but there are millions of people who put in shifts for decades without ever going on holiday anywhere, let alone abroad (for a variety of reasons - low income, health, carers' committments etc.). |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:09 - Jul 28 with 4235 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:07 - Jul 28 by Libero |
What a load of b0llocks.
I stand by my original post.
Unless you’re going door to door in your own transport to an apartment/house that you can guarantee that nobody has been in for at least 2 weeks then you’re taking an unnecessary risk.
I’m one of those who has “put a real shift in over the last 4 months” - I’d love to get away and decompress, but not at the potential expense of others.
I’ve had the virus, it hit me hard, I don’t intend on doing anything that increases the likelihood of anyone else getting sick.
Don’t be selfish, keep your social circles small, keep your movements predictable and small, you do not “need” a holiday, you “want” one. |
That's exactly what I did. Drove to Mallorca and stayed in a house that hadn't been occupied for some weeks. Went out to shop. The island has virtually no cases.
Ferries were well organised, masks obligatory, social distancing fine everywhere. Hotels en route ditto, with 24 hours between room occupancy and deep cleaning / masks / social distancing throughout.
The bars we went to were quiet, table service, etc etc.
Bloody lovely. A good 4 weeks away. And left there just in time to avoid the quarantine. | | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:37 - Jul 28 with 4204 views | jeera |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:09 - Jul 28 by Freddies_Ears |
That's exactly what I did. Drove to Mallorca and stayed in a house that hadn't been occupied for some weeks. Went out to shop. The island has virtually no cases.
Ferries were well organised, masks obligatory, social distancing fine everywhere. Hotels en route ditto, with 24 hours between room occupancy and deep cleaning / masks / social distancing throughout.
The bars we went to were quiet, table service, etc etc.
Bloody lovely. A good 4 weeks away. And left there just in time to avoid the quarantine. |
If you're gonna do it, that does sound the way.
4 weeks is worthwhile isn't it, but obviously not possible for everyone and if everyone could, then it might be rather busier!
Sounds nice though, has to be said. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:03 - Jul 28 with 4169 views | TractorWood |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 09:37 - Jul 28 by mikeybloo88 |
Not everyone goes on holiday abroad to sit on a beach and drink beer... a villa in the mountains of Majorca, Greece or Croatia with its own pool and a couple of local outdoor restaurants to dine at safely sounds rather good to me. The getting to and from is less appealing of course. Also, there are quite a few people who've put in a real shift over the last 4 months who maybe want and deserve more of a stresss relieving break than just a week in the rain in Britain, so those who are roundly condemning everyone who wants to go abroad might consider that too. |
I understand your rationale but if it results in the higher chance of transmission across the country and world, it is ultimately an extremely selfish act.
Deserving a decent break because you've been helping to react and reduce a pandemic doesn't logically result in going abroad at the first opportunity, to me.
I appreciate some people have different opinions and different appetites for risk but people really need to have some self awareness and own their decisions.
People are moaning at the Government for being (reasonably) decisive on Spain 'cos people are on 'oliday'. We will see months of these type of temporary bans imo. [Post edited 28 Jul 2020 18:08]
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:24 - Jul 28 with 4150 views | bluelagos |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 14:07 - Jul 28 by Libero |
What a load of b0llocks.
I stand by my original post.
Unless you’re going door to door in your own transport to an apartment/house that you can guarantee that nobody has been in for at least 2 weeks then you’re taking an unnecessary risk.
I’m one of those who has “put a real shift in over the last 4 months” - I’d love to get away and decompress, but not at the potential expense of others.
I’ve had the virus, it hit me hard, I don’t intend on doing anything that increases the likelihood of anyone else getting sick.
Don’t be selfish, keep your social circles small, keep your movements predictable and small, you do not “need” a holiday, you “want” one. |
Think we are miles apart on this one. (Sorry for late reply btw to some of your points)
To label people who go on holiday as selfish because they increase the risk of transmission (which they do) seems very unfair to me. Presumably you also feel the same of anyone who has gone to a pub, restaurant or who shops in person rather than getting home delivery?
All of these actions, like holidaying, are deemed by the govt and their scientists to be of such low risk as to be activities they now allow. Indeed activities they now encourage. The govt has concluded that the benefits to the individuals welbeing and to the economy (People's jobs) outweigh the low risks.
You may disagree with the govt (which I have no issue with) but labeling people who are following the guidelines as selfish just doesn't feel right to me Libby. | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:36 - Jul 28 with 4130 views | Libero |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:24 - Jul 28 by bluelagos |
Think we are miles apart on this one. (Sorry for late reply btw to some of your points)
To label people who go on holiday as selfish because they increase the risk of transmission (which they do) seems very unfair to me. Presumably you also feel the same of anyone who has gone to a pub, restaurant or who shops in person rather than getting home delivery?
All of these actions, like holidaying, are deemed by the govt and their scientists to be of such low risk as to be activities they now allow. Indeed activities they now encourage. The govt has concluded that the benefits to the individuals welbeing and to the economy (People's jobs) outweigh the low risks.
You may disagree with the govt (which I have no issue with) but labeling people who are following the guidelines as selfish just doesn't feel right to me Libby. |
Re: your point about the pub/restaurant/etc.
It depends, doesn’t it, I mean in mid Suffolk we’re doing pretty well, personally I’m yet to go to a pub or a restaurant but I can understand why people who live in my area are putting their faith in what’s in place and going out for a drink or a bite to eat.
If you’re going out on the p1ss to multiple pubs (as Paz has bragged about on here in the past) then yeah, you’re a selfish arsehole that’s taking the p1ss.
There’s a world of difference in making predictable movements around your local area and venturing out to another country, travelling via aeroplane and crossing paths with god knows who from god knows where, frankly it’s irresponsible at best.
If people want to enjoy the freedoms that we have been lucky enough to have return in recent weeks then they need to be sensible and not knock the arse out of it.
You know just as well as I do that a lot of what’s being set out at the moment is in the interest of the economy and not of public health, that’s why it’s been a while since we’ve heard anything from Chris Wittie, etc.
I respect you as a poster mate, but as you say, we’re worlds apart on this.
People feel a lot safer now than they did in March/April, but if people keep being so blasé and self absorbed the public health will suffer and we will see another wave rise. | | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:40 - Jul 28 with 4119 views | Libero |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 16:09 - Jul 28 by Freddies_Ears |
That's exactly what I did. Drove to Mallorca and stayed in a house that hadn't been occupied for some weeks. Went out to shop. The island has virtually no cases.
Ferries were well organised, masks obligatory, social distancing fine everywhere. Hotels en route ditto, with 24 hours between room occupancy and deep cleaning / masks / social distancing throughout.
The bars we went to were quiet, table service, etc etc.
Bloody lovely. A good 4 weeks away. And left there just in time to avoid the quarantine. |
Sounds nice mate, and as I say, probably the only real way morally you can justify going away without putting other people at an increased risk. | | | |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:48 - Jul 28 with 4097 views | bluelagos |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:36 - Jul 28 by Libero |
Re: your point about the pub/restaurant/etc.
It depends, doesn’t it, I mean in mid Suffolk we’re doing pretty well, personally I’m yet to go to a pub or a restaurant but I can understand why people who live in my area are putting their faith in what’s in place and going out for a drink or a bite to eat.
If you’re going out on the p1ss to multiple pubs (as Paz has bragged about on here in the past) then yeah, you’re a selfish arsehole that’s taking the p1ss.
There’s a world of difference in making predictable movements around your local area and venturing out to another country, travelling via aeroplane and crossing paths with god knows who from god knows where, frankly it’s irresponsible at best.
If people want to enjoy the freedoms that we have been lucky enough to have return in recent weeks then they need to be sensible and not knock the arse out of it.
You know just as well as I do that a lot of what’s being set out at the moment is in the interest of the economy and not of public health, that’s why it’s been a while since we’ve heard anything from Chris Wittie, etc.
I respect you as a poster mate, but as you say, we’re worlds apart on this.
People feel a lot safer now than they did in March/April, but if people keep being so blasé and self absorbed the public health will suffer and we will see another wave rise. |
I respect you too mate - so we are not going to fall out over it :-)
I definitely agree with some people taking the p*ss - and am sure there are plenty. Always are and no argument from me on that.
The airport if an interesting one. I speak as someone who is not planning on using one anytime soon - if I do get my late September holiday it is on my motorbike which will be far safer.
But your concerns over the airports - which I pretty much share - think the main difference is I'd question the advice being given rather than those following it. (Maybe we aren't so far apart really on that point)
The other point is on public health vs the Economy. I think that's too narrow a choice. It is risk of CV spread (Public health) vs the Econony and well being. So a family who have been struggling with lockdown, cooped up in a flat in a city. maybe kids not going to school, parents and kids all on top of each other - literally pulling their hair out...I think we can agree a holiday is in their interests.
Having said all that - I can see and appreciate that some on the Costas are taking the p*ss and risking more CV due to their actions. I share your distain for them. I guess I just think labeling all holiday makers as selfish is unfair on those who are not.
As for the share of decent v selfish people - no real comment as am not there to see them in action.
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:57 - Jul 28 with 4011 views | 26_Paz |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:36 - Jul 28 by Libero |
Re: your point about the pub/restaurant/etc.
It depends, doesn’t it, I mean in mid Suffolk we’re doing pretty well, personally I’m yet to go to a pub or a restaurant but I can understand why people who live in my area are putting their faith in what’s in place and going out for a drink or a bite to eat.
If you’re going out on the p1ss to multiple pubs (as Paz has bragged about on here in the past) then yeah, you’re a selfish arsehole that’s taking the p1ss.
There’s a world of difference in making predictable movements around your local area and venturing out to another country, travelling via aeroplane and crossing paths with god knows who from god knows where, frankly it’s irresponsible at best.
If people want to enjoy the freedoms that we have been lucky enough to have return in recent weeks then they need to be sensible and not knock the arse out of it.
You know just as well as I do that a lot of what’s being set out at the moment is in the interest of the economy and not of public health, that’s why it’s been a while since we’ve heard anything from Chris Wittie, etc.
I respect you as a poster mate, but as you say, we’re worlds apart on this.
People feel a lot safer now than they did in March/April, but if people keep being so blasé and self absorbed the public health will suffer and we will see another wave rise. |
Why do you always have to have a dig? I’ve done nothing on this thread to warrant being called a ‘selfish arsehole’. It’s just childish and unnecessary. On the night you’re talking about I went to two pubs. Yeah, lock me up. Get a life mate. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 23:18 - Jul 28 with 3979 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 22:57 - Jul 28 by 26_Paz |
Why do you always have to have a dig? I’ve done nothing on this thread to warrant being called a ‘selfish arsehole’. It’s just childish and unnecessary. On the night you’re talking about I went to two pubs. Yeah, lock me up. Get a life mate. |
I like that you had to clarify 'on this thread'!
To be honest though, I think it's chickens coming home to roost mate. Pattern of behaviour and all that. A tarnished reputation is a hard one to shine.
Anyway, enjoy your holiday. Hopefully it won't lead to an uptick which will delay my ability to come home at some point in the future. [Post edited 28 Jul 2020 23:23]
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 01:03 - Jul 29 with 3910 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 23:18 - Jul 28 by SpruceMoose |
I like that you had to clarify 'on this thread'!
To be honest though, I think it's chickens coming home to roost mate. Pattern of behaviour and all that. A tarnished reputation is a hard one to shine.
Anyway, enjoy your holiday. Hopefully it won't lead to an uptick which will delay my ability to come home at some point in the future. [Post edited 28 Jul 2020 23:23]
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Downvote me all you like, but Paz is a poster who has recently said that he didn't care about Johnson's racism, his misogyny, his homophobia, his Islamophobia, his planning to assault journalists, so long as he got his Brexit. He didn't care if British kids went hungry over the summer, so long as he got his Brexit.
It's funny how all that gets ignored by a few on here when it comes to chitchatting about his holiday. Much easier to take a pop at the person who has been willing to call him out for it all along I guess.
It's also funny watching all these Brexity troll accounts like Paz and Baron trying to transition back into being normal posting accounts now.
Anyway, I won't lose any sleep over a downvote for criticising that little lot. [Post edited 29 Jul 2020 1:09]
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 03:23 - Jul 29 with 3871 views | NewcyBlue |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:36 - Jul 28 by Libero |
Re: your point about the pub/restaurant/etc.
It depends, doesn’t it, I mean in mid Suffolk we’re doing pretty well, personally I’m yet to go to a pub or a restaurant but I can understand why people who live in my area are putting their faith in what’s in place and going out for a drink or a bite to eat.
If you’re going out on the p1ss to multiple pubs (as Paz has bragged about on here in the past) then yeah, you’re a selfish arsehole that’s taking the p1ss.
There’s a world of difference in making predictable movements around your local area and venturing out to another country, travelling via aeroplane and crossing paths with god knows who from god knows where, frankly it’s irresponsible at best.
If people want to enjoy the freedoms that we have been lucky enough to have return in recent weeks then they need to be sensible and not knock the arse out of it.
You know just as well as I do that a lot of what’s being set out at the moment is in the interest of the economy and not of public health, that’s why it’s been a while since we’ve heard anything from Chris Wittie, etc.
I respect you as a poster mate, but as you say, we’re worlds apart on this.
People feel a lot safer now than they did in March/April, but if people keep being so blasé and self absorbed the public health will suffer and we will see another wave rise. |
I flew out to Spain in early June.
Obviously there weren’t many flights out that day. But it was a full flight. I flew to Amsterdam and then Malaga.
On my flight to Amsterdam there were a couple of teenagers who kept taking their masks off. Their parents kept telling them to put them back on, but you could tell they were weak parents with weak boundaries.
I ended up in a hotel for 8 days in Palmones before joining ship. Had a COVID test done on my second day there. The rest of the time I was free to wander around the town and go to restaurants and shops etc.
Masks were worn by everyone, everywhere I went. Restaurants had acceptable spacing between tables. Shops had disposable latex gloves that you had to wear upon entering.
I honestly think I was as safe, if not safer than being at home and doing the Asda run at the time.
In my case it was essential travel. Work. I don’t think holidays are essential for everyone, however I won’t judge people for taking a holiday. Everybody has their own circumstance and that’s what drives their decisions.
I’m in South Africa at the moment, it’s terrible here. The stevedores are mostly coming on without masks. People are a strange creature really. |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 04:05 - Jul 29 with 3854 views | giant_stow |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 18:36 - Jul 28 by Libero |
Re: your point about the pub/restaurant/etc.
It depends, doesn’t it, I mean in mid Suffolk we’re doing pretty well, personally I’m yet to go to a pub or a restaurant but I can understand why people who live in my area are putting their faith in what’s in place and going out for a drink or a bite to eat.
If you’re going out on the p1ss to multiple pubs (as Paz has bragged about on here in the past) then yeah, you’re a selfish arsehole that’s taking the p1ss.
There’s a world of difference in making predictable movements around your local area and venturing out to another country, travelling via aeroplane and crossing paths with god knows who from god knows where, frankly it’s irresponsible at best.
If people want to enjoy the freedoms that we have been lucky enough to have return in recent weeks then they need to be sensible and not knock the arse out of it.
You know just as well as I do that a lot of what’s being set out at the moment is in the interest of the economy and not of public health, that’s why it’s been a while since we’ve heard anything from Chris Wittie, etc.
I respect you as a poster mate, but as you say, we’re worlds apart on this.
People feel a lot safer now than they did in March/April, but if people keep being so blasé and self absorbed the public health will suffer and we will see another wave rise. |
I think things have moved past public health vs the economy now that the govt has spent so much on mitigating covid. The two are more or less the same thing and ever more so, the longer this goes on. Furlough will end soon, as will the ban on evictions - real crushing poverty is just around the corner.
I also think you're forgetting that their are jobs at stake for those in the entertainment and travel industires. Read an article earlier about how people in seaside towns around britain are having to rely far more on govt support in all this.
In fact you could argue that putting yourself at risk by going to the pub/restaurant/holiday (home or abroad) is a selfless act which helps to support communities in dire straights. Especially while general infection levels are relatively low and summer is here - all this will only get worse when we move into winter (assuming there's no vacine etc).
(I speak as someone's who's been to the pub once and not planning a foreign trip, but will head off for a week away in England) |  |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 04:35 - Jul 29 with 3841 views | 26_Paz |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 01:03 - Jul 29 by SpruceMoose |
Downvote me all you like, but Paz is a poster who has recently said that he didn't care about Johnson's racism, his misogyny, his homophobia, his Islamophobia, his planning to assault journalists, so long as he got his Brexit. He didn't care if British kids went hungry over the summer, so long as he got his Brexit.
It's funny how all that gets ignored by a few on here when it comes to chitchatting about his holiday. Much easier to take a pop at the person who has been willing to call him out for it all along I guess.
It's also funny watching all these Brexity troll accounts like Paz and Baron trying to transition back into being normal posting accounts now.
Anyway, I won't lose any sleep over a downvote for criticising that little lot. [Post edited 29 Jul 2020 1:09]
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Once again you’ve twisted what actually happened in those threads, but hey, if it enables a pop at me then why not? | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 04:38 - Jul 29 with 3837 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 04:35 - Jul 29 by 26_Paz |
Once again you’ve twisted what actually happened in those threads, but hey, if it enables a pop at me then why not? |
I'll let your own words do the talking. The thread is here. People can judge for themselves.
Why is PMQs a thing? by 26_Paz 25 Jun 2020 13:52u don't think the comments about watermelon smiles, bumboys and women looking like letterboxes were offensive. I’ve explained earlier in the thread my views on this
You're not bothered by the plans to assault a journalist because you don't know much about it (and haven't indicated that you will look into it). Again, I’ve explained some journalists, I’m thinking of the ilk who tap phones etc may on occasions ask for a slap and I would certainly lose no sleep about them getting one!
You happy to say that the price you're willing (other people to pay) for all this is getting Brexit. My view is that Brexit will benefit us all in the long run.
You don't think supporting someone who laughs about watermelon smiles, bum boys, letterbox women and makes plans to assault journalists reflects badly on you. Correct, I don’t.
I said I was going to keep things polite. I didn't say I wasn't going to challenge some pretty disappointing views (even though it's tumbleweeds from the people sticking up for you earlier this week). No issues with this and as I’ve said I thought yesterday’s debate was pretty healthy.
Just for the record though, you still don't think cheerleading for a man who insults Black people with such hilarious quips as them having 'watermelon smiles' reflects badly on you? Still sticking with the 'It wasn't racism, it was just banter!' line?
Still think 'bumboys' is a term that people should snigger at?
Hamstead was getting rightly hammered on here the other day for saying Owen Jones was asking for a slap when he was assaulted. You said the exact same thing about Stuart Collier. I don't see why Hamstead should take pelters while you skate by.
Maybe others disagree, but I think people can be judged by what they say and what they think, and I personally don't feel at ease chit chatting in a friendly manner with a person who has a history of embracing those kind of things.
Perhaps I'm in the minority though, and I'm always happy to hear if people feel differently and want to tell me so. [Post edited 29 Jul 2020 5:26]
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 05:17 - Jul 29 with 3790 views | NewcyBlue |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 04:38 - Jul 29 by SpruceMoose |
I'll let your own words do the talking. The thread is here. People can judge for themselves.
Why is PMQs a thing? by 26_Paz 25 Jun 2020 13:52u don't think the comments about watermelon smiles, bumboys and women looking like letterboxes were offensive. I’ve explained earlier in the thread my views on this
You're not bothered by the plans to assault a journalist because you don't know much about it (and haven't indicated that you will look into it). Again, I’ve explained some journalists, I’m thinking of the ilk who tap phones etc may on occasions ask for a slap and I would certainly lose no sleep about them getting one!
You happy to say that the price you're willing (other people to pay) for all this is getting Brexit. My view is that Brexit will benefit us all in the long run.
You don't think supporting someone who laughs about watermelon smiles, bum boys, letterbox women and makes plans to assault journalists reflects badly on you. Correct, I don’t.
I said I was going to keep things polite. I didn't say I wasn't going to challenge some pretty disappointing views (even though it's tumbleweeds from the people sticking up for you earlier this week). No issues with this and as I’ve said I thought yesterday’s debate was pretty healthy.
Just for the record though, you still don't think cheerleading for a man who insults Black people with such hilarious quips as them having 'watermelon smiles' reflects badly on you? Still sticking with the 'It wasn't racism, it was just banter!' line?
Still think 'bumboys' is a term that people should snigger at?
Hamstead was getting rightly hammered on here the other day for saying Owen Jones was asking for a slap when he was assaulted. You said the exact same thing about Stuart Collier. I don't see why Hamstead should take pelters while you skate by.
Maybe others disagree, but I think people can be judged by what they say and what they think, and I personally don't feel at ease chit chatting in a friendly manner with a person who has a history of embracing those kind of things.
Perhaps I'm in the minority though, and I'm always happy to hear if people feel differently and want to tell me so. [Post edited 29 Jul 2020 5:26]
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“ You don't think supporting someone who laughs about watermelon smiles, bum boys, letterbox women and makes plans to assault journalists reflects badly on you. Correct, I don’t”
When anyone has been racist towards MrsN I have thought nothing of imposing myself upon them. I still believe it’s my right to punch a racist.
If someone were to make that comment about watermelon smiles in front of me, I would exercise my aforementioned right. | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 05:22 - Jul 29 with 3789 views | SpruceMoose |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 05:17 - Jul 29 by NewcyBlue |
“ You don't think supporting someone who laughs about watermelon smiles, bum boys, letterbox women and makes plans to assault journalists reflects badly on you. Correct, I don’t”
When anyone has been racist towards MrsN I have thought nothing of imposing myself upon them. I still believe it’s my right to punch a racist.
If someone were to make that comment about watermelon smiles in front of me, I would exercise my aforementioned right. |
I can only imagine the restraint you must have to have shown at times in the face of ignorance Newcy. I've witnessed it aimed at friends, but never aimed at the person I love.
Empathy guides me, and is the reason why I don't care for swapping holiday yarns with someone who can't see the issue here. | |
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| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 05:25 - Jul 29 with 3786 views | NewcyBlue |
| Anyone off to (Or in Spain?) on 05:22 - Jul 29 by SpruceMoose |
I can only imagine the restraint you must have to have shown at times in the face of ignorance Newcy. I've witnessed it aimed at friends, but never aimed at the person I love.
Empathy guides me, and is the reason why I don't care for swapping holiday yarns with someone who can't see the issue here. |
Restraint? MrsN would say I don’t have enough of that....
I can’t begin to tell you how much I hate people. Especially racists.
We rarely take public transport these days. It’s been the main place of any issues. | |
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