| I do worry about the future of Portman Road 15:08 - Feb 27 with 12285 views | GavTWTD |
If this takeover happens, I think there's a real possibility of them wanting to own their own ground. I have little to base this on, apart from it costs a lot of money to keep the ground maintained. If they are looking at adding value then a new ground is one way of doing it. Happy to be corrected as Portman Road is important to me as a fan. |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:07 - Feb 27 with 2173 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 15:57 - Feb 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Add a new ground and get us in the Prem and we'd be worth £120m+ probably in this day and age. Swansea were valued at £100m 4 years ago or so and their ground is only 20,000 capacity with barely any retail. Mind you, it'd cost £30-50m to build a half decent one.
I think Gav's right to be worried. |
You can double that for a 30,000 seater stadium.
There's no case for a new stadium I wouldn't think.
You've not even got sale proceeds from the old ground to add to the pot. |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:09 - Feb 27 with 2190 views | GavTWTD |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 15:57 - Feb 27 by jayessess |
But I don't see where the money is in developing a new stadium for a sports team that doesn't fill their existing one? |
The old one has to be maintained at considerable cost. It's not about building a larger one. The land may be worth a fortune to the council. Build a retail centre/new ground out of town with some council money.
Can I just stress I don't want this to happen, but it might be of interest to investors. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:19 - Feb 27 with 2149 views | 3_5_2 |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 15:16 - Feb 27 by Scuzzer |
Ground share with Col U |
If PL is still here, ground share with Ipswich Wanderers ! |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:20 - Feb 27 with 2146 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:09 - Feb 27 by GavTWTD |
The old one has to be maintained at considerable cost. It's not about building a larger one. The land may be worth a fortune to the council. Build a retail centre/new ground out of town with some council money.
Can I just stress I don't want this to happen, but it might be of interest to investors. |
First you guys ask uncle Paul some nasty questions. Now you’re starting a petition to bulldoze Portman road. No wonder they’ve barred you lot. |  | | |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:23 - Feb 27 with 2139 views | Keno |
The only consolation could be that by the time a site is found, planning permission sorted out and the ground is actually built and ready we not be around anymore |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:58 - Feb 27 with 2101 views | jayessess |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:09 - Feb 27 by GavTWTD |
The old one has to be maintained at considerable cost. It's not about building a larger one. The land may be worth a fortune to the council. Build a retail centre/new ground out of town with some council money.
Can I just stress I don't want this to happen, but it might be of interest to investors. |
But the council already own the ground, don't they? Why would they pay the new owners anything if they wanted to redevelop it? |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:04 - Feb 27 with 2062 views | Ryorry |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 15:42 - Feb 27 by GodBlue |
I'm sure they'll consider it, especially if they can't come to an agreement to buy the land under PR.
That said, my first thought went to them redeveloping areas around the ground, if they can get their hands on that too. Listening to BJ talk about Rhode Island and the new development for Phoenix in AZ, he's a fan of his clubs being a 365 day a year thing, not just a match day thing. There's an argument that the best place for that to happen is in the middle of town, so who knows. |
PR is reasonably central, train station only a few mins away as already pointed out & has a good capacity - why would any new owner want to jettison that for a vastly epensive new stadium? Why wouldn't the Council give permissions for round the year events at PR? It'd be a real money-soinning draw for the town. |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:05 - Feb 27 with 2076 views | J2BLUE |
Can't see the logic in it. They want to get us up the leagues and sell us on. It doesn't sound like a long term deal.
I think we'll see Portman Road utilised a lot more during the summer. Concerts, events on the practice pitch etc.
I wouldn't worry about it. |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:05 - Feb 27 with 2073 views | SenatorBlue |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 15:54 - Feb 27 by footers |
Dare to dream, Gav. It's the year 2030, we're in Europe again playing the top sides at the new Ipswich City Soccerball Arena. |
The Sir Bobby Robson Arena |  | | |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:09 - Feb 27 with 2047 views | Dubtractor |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:09 - Feb 27 by GavTWTD |
The old one has to be maintained at considerable cost. It's not about building a larger one. The land may be worth a fortune to the council. Build a retail centre/new ground out of town with some council money.
Can I just stress I don't want this to happen, but it might be of interest to investors. |
Not sure I see your concerns here Gav.
The cost of buying land, building a stadium and maintaining it will dwarf the cost of maintaining what we have currently. That's before you even start to think where it could go, and the challenge of getting planning for something that would be a traffic disaster every time there is a game.
And the land won't be of much use to the council either - if there was scope to do much in that area the previously discussed 'Ipswich Village' would have happened by now. And council funds were pretty scarce before Covid, post Covid there isn't going to be money to support projects like supporting a new football ground. |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:10 - Feb 27 with 2016 views | Ryorry |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:05 - Feb 27 by SenatorBlue |
The Sir Bobby Robson Arena |
I might be wrong, but don't think USA investors/owners would be that aware or empathetic! More likely to be the JP Morgan Chase Stadium or something. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:10 - Feb 27 with 2020 views | jeera |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:05 - Feb 27 by J2BLUE |
Can't see the logic in it. They want to get us up the leagues and sell us on. It doesn't sound like a long term deal.
I think we'll see Portman Road utilised a lot more during the summer. Concerts, events on the practice pitch etc.
I wouldn't worry about it. |
It's one thing that has stood out that hasn't made sense throughout isn't it?
Why someone in Evans' line of business hasn't been using PR for its full potential.
You'd think he'd squeeze everything he could from such an opportunity as that.
What better an all-round venue could there be? |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:11 - Feb 27 with 2025 views | Edmundo |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 15:42 - Feb 27 by GodBlue |
I'm sure they'll consider it, especially if they can't come to an agreement to buy the land under PR.
That said, my first thought went to them redeveloping areas around the ground, if they can get their hands on that too. Listening to BJ talk about Rhode Island and the new development for Phoenix in AZ, he's a fan of his clubs being a 365 day a year thing, not just a match day thing. There's an argument that the best place for that to happen is in the middle of town, so who knows. |
Resurrection of Sheepshanks' hotel/casino idea you mean? |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:11 - Feb 27 with 2017 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 16:07 - Feb 27 by Marshalls_Mullet |
You can double that for a 30,000 seater stadium.
There's no case for a new stadium I wouldn't think.
You've not even got sale proceeds from the old ground to add to the pot. |
Yeah, maybe I'm a bit out. The Liberty was £20-25k for a 20,000 seater. But I just looked up the cost of Brentford's new one and they paid £71m for their 17,500 seater 
Madejski was £50m 13 years ago, supposed cost £90m now. And that's 24k.
So maybe not so attractive after all. |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:12 - Feb 27 with 2002 views | J2BLUE |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:10 - Feb 27 by jeera |
It's one thing that has stood out that hasn't made sense throughout isn't it?
Why someone in Evans' line of business hasn't been using PR for its full potential.
You'd think he'd squeeze everything he could from such an opportunity as that.
What better an all-round venue could there be? |
Agreed. How many stadiums have an area like the practice pitch within the boundaries? Just seems like a massive wasted opportunity.
I've always considered it a unique aspect to the stadium and one we need to exploit. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:13 - Feb 27 with 1998 views | SuperCoops |
I think a new stadium is a much longer-term project (also one that's not needed). I can't see that being one of their priorities, especially if their aim is to make a quick "buck" and sell on.
Much more likely they'll try and changing naming rights at Portman Road to something like the "Starbucks Stadium" or the "Dunkin Donuts Arena". |  | | |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:13 - Feb 27 with 1998 views | Dubtractor |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:11 - Feb 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Yeah, maybe I'm a bit out. The Liberty was £20-25k for a 20,000 seater. But I just looked up the cost of Brentford's new one and they paid £71m for their 17,500 seater
Madejski was £50m 13 years ago, supposed cost £90m now. And that's 24k.
So maybe not so attractive after all. |
Yep, big construction projects cost HUGE money now. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:14 - Feb 27 with 1986 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:13 - Feb 27 by Dubtractor |
Yep, big construction projects cost HUGE money now. |
Obviously. Over £70m for Brentford's new place is just nuts. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:15 - Feb 27 with 1979 views | deano85 |
Cant see a new stadium, but i can definatly see a new name, once we get a huge sponsorship deal...
'the coca cola stadium' |  | | |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:17 - Feb 27 with 1965 views | SpruceMoose |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:15 - Feb 27 by deano85 |
Cant see a new stadium, but i can definatly see a new name, once we get a huge sponsorship deal...
'the coca cola stadium' |
I think you'll need to adjust your brand expectations!
The Panda Pop Arena is more likely! |  |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:19 - Feb 27 with 1959 views | GavTWTD |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:09 - Feb 27 by Dubtractor |
Not sure I see your concerns here Gav.
The cost of buying land, building a stadium and maintaining it will dwarf the cost of maintaining what we have currently. That's before you even start to think where it could go, and the challenge of getting planning for something that would be a traffic disaster every time there is a game.
And the land won't be of much use to the council either - if there was scope to do much in that area the previously discussed 'Ipswich Village' would have happened by now. And council funds were pretty scarce before Covid, post Covid there isn't going to be money to support projects like supporting a new football ground. |
You're not right about the land value. It's worth a fortune to developers.
But because it's worth so much planning wouldn't be a problem out of town.
I don't think I have to worry but I hope it's a question asked. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:28 - Feb 27 with 1925 views | Dubtractor |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:19 - Feb 27 by GavTWTD |
You're not right about the land value. It's worth a fortune to developers.
But because it's worth so much planning wouldn't be a problem out of town.
I don't think I have to worry but I hope it's a question asked. |
No sure I agree with that first point.
That whole area has been in decline for years, and the Princess street/hollywoods developments to improve the area now are only happening because IBC are throwing money at it. Money to build office blocks that may now end up being a white elephant with a change in working habits post Covid.
I'm not sure what you mean by the second point. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:36 - Feb 27 with 1902 views | BryanPlug |
| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:19 - Feb 27 by GavTWTD |
You're not right about the land value. It's worth a fortune to developers.
But because it's worth so much planning wouldn't be a problem out of town.
I don't think I have to worry but I hope it's a question asked. |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:41 - Feb 27 with 1879 views | pennblue |
It's an interesting one, as I can't believe the land at PR is really that valuable in the general scheme of things.
If you were going to turn PR into a massive hospitality / restaurant / hotel / gym / football ground / corporate hospitality type place, then surely you would do that on its current site, as it is so well located for this. The town is a stones throw, you can walk to the marina, and it is right next to a train station which takes you to London. So if they bought the land from the Council, and turned it into an Reading style ground, which make the whole club more financially viable, surely it is a good thing?
As 'on the edge of town one of these I just can't see working as well. | |
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| I do worry about the future of Portman Road on 17:43 - Feb 27 with 1977 views | blueprint |
Finding land to build a new stadium within the borough would be difficult as there really aren’t many areas on the outskirts to build one. A large part of urban Ipswich sits outside the borough boundary.
According to Wikipedia ( I know..) 75% of the population live within the borough with the other 25% outside. |  | | |
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