Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? 09:28 - Feb 28 with 10087 views | MaySixth | He has been wonderful of late and justifying the Shrewsbury hype. He will probably have a bad game in him soon but I hope he we stick with him. I wonder if his form is possibly pyschologically linked with not taking the knee? He is making a personal stand before the game and then standing out in games as well. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:13 - Feb 28 with 625 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:05 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Population density per km UK= 267 Italy = 207 France = 105 Spain = 98 |
Belgium - 383 Netherlands - 508 Malta - 1380 See, I can handpick some snippets of data too. | | | |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:13 - Feb 28 with 620 views | Herbivore |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:09 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Why risk your own life when you could claim asylum elsewhere. The actual law is you claim asylum at the first country you enter. I'm not sure why people say asylum, they are not all true asylum seekers. Please you don't really believe all these people are escaping persecution? |
That's not what the law says, I already dealt with this earlier: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/truth-about-refugees#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20legal% | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:14 - Feb 28 with 619 views | wkj |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:12 - Feb 28 by noggin | Good that you corrected him so that he can learn and understand. |
Wait until he gets to the part that states The UK asylum system is no more generous than many others | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:14 - Feb 28 with 618 views | noggin |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:11 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | If it was a handful and they were all genuine asylum seeker there wouldn't be a problem |
What do you consider to be worthwhile reasons for leaving your home and family, to pay a criminal your life savings, to put you in a dinghy and risk drowning? | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 with 614 views | Herbivore |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:11 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | If it was a handful and they were all genuine asylum seeker there wouldn't be a problem |
The numbers are comparatively small, as has been pointed out to you. Much smaller than most of our European neighbours. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 with 613 views | noggin |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:13 - Feb 28 by DropCliffsNotBombs | Belgium - 383 Netherlands - 508 Malta - 1380 See, I can handpick some snippets of data too. |
Yeah but, no but.... | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 with 608 views | Vic | I haven’t read the whole thread - tldr - but I don’t get the negativity to this post. As I see it the point OP is making is that Nsiala seems to be in a place where he is making his own decisions, and that him deciding that taking the knee is past its sell by date is just a symptom of that. So he’s growing up - that’s it. No racism intended. Why the angst guys? | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 with 607 views | Swansea_Blue |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:14 - Feb 28 by noggin | What do you consider to be worthwhile reasons for leaving your home and family, to pay a criminal your life savings, to put you in a dinghy and risk drowning? |
Forgotten the wife's birthday? | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 with 603 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
I'm confident that blueDanW will reflect upon this and reconsider his stance, which is in no way entrenched abd bigoted. | | | |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:17 - Feb 28 with 590 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 by Vic | I haven’t read the whole thread - tldr - but I don’t get the negativity to this post. As I see it the point OP is making is that Nsiala seems to be in a place where he is making his own decisions, and that him deciding that taking the knee is past its sell by date is just a symptom of that. So he’s growing up - that’s it. No racism intended. Why the angst guys? |
Yeah.... Read the thread... | | | |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 with 585 views | noggin |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 by Vic | I haven’t read the whole thread - tldr - but I don’t get the negativity to this post. As I see it the point OP is making is that Nsiala seems to be in a place where he is making his own decisions, and that him deciding that taking the knee is past its sell by date is just a symptom of that. So he’s growing up - that’s it. No racism intended. Why the angst guys? |
The thread has evolved and is no longer about Nsiala. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 with 586 views | Herbivore | This thread is really good evidence of why this country is a bit of a state. People believe stuff that is demonstrably false but are prepared to continue with the same line of argument even when it's been pointed out to them that their argument is based on falsehoods. People just believe whatever fits their world view and to hell with the truth. Brexit Britain at its finest. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 with 582 views | BluedanW |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:12 - Feb 28 by noggin | Good that you corrected him so that he can learn and understand. |
Learn that if you find yourself as an asylum seeker you can literally pick and choose which country you would like to go to? Seems odd if you were truly so desperate to escape persecution you would be happy to get to get to anywhere safe for refuge. But you can keeping travelling for months to find the one that offers the best benefits. We must offer more than th other 3 or 4 countries they decided to travel through. Is this the ioswich message board or the guardian / momentum board. I do wonder sometimes | | | |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 with 581 views | footers |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:15 - Feb 28 by Vic | I haven’t read the whole thread - tldr - but I don’t get the negativity to this post. As I see it the point OP is making is that Nsiala seems to be in a place where he is making his own decisions, and that him deciding that taking the knee is past its sell by date is just a symptom of that. So he’s growing up - that’s it. No racism intended. Why the angst guys? |
Whereas before there was a group of gunmen threatening to kill him if he didn't. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:19 - Feb 28 with 575 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Learn that if you find yourself as an asylum seeker you can literally pick and choose which country you would like to go to? Seems odd if you were truly so desperate to escape persecution you would be happy to get to get to anywhere safe for refuge. But you can keeping travelling for months to find the one that offers the best benefits. We must offer more than th other 3 or 4 countries they decided to travel through. Is this the ioswich message board or the guardian / momentum board. I do wonder sometimes |
So...you're just asking the question then...? | | | |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:20 - Feb 28 with 569 views | footers |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Learn that if you find yourself as an asylum seeker you can literally pick and choose which country you would like to go to? Seems odd if you were truly so desperate to escape persecution you would be happy to get to get to anywhere safe for refuge. But you can keeping travelling for months to find the one that offers the best benefits. We must offer more than th other 3 or 4 countries they decided to travel through. Is this the ioswich message board or the guardian / momentum board. I do wonder sometimes |
It's the intellectually rigorous forum for ITFC fans. Perhaps you'd be happier in the news comments or on Radio Suffolk. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:21 - Feb 28 with 568 views | jayessess |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 16:49 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | I don't think risking your kids life just to be able to get to a country where you know the lingo or your family lives is a good enough reason myself. |
Either factor can make a huge difference to whether your family survives or not. People with no savings, no assets, no family or friends to fall back on are already in a hugely precarious economic position. Throw in having often having no documentation, no right to work and no language skills to navigate the country you're in and you're more or less guaranteed to be destitute. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:21 - Feb 28 with 562 views | Swansea_Blue |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Learn that if you find yourself as an asylum seeker you can literally pick and choose which country you would like to go to? Seems odd if you were truly so desperate to escape persecution you would be happy to get to get to anywhere safe for refuge. But you can keeping travelling for months to find the one that offers the best benefits. We must offer more than th other 3 or 4 countries they decided to travel through. Is this the ioswich message board or the guardian / momentum board. I do wonder sometimes |
You could start here and then dip into the links if you genuinely want to understand the motivations of asylum seekers. https://fullfact.org/immigration/why-do-migrants-and-asylum-seekers-want-come-uk | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:23 - Feb 28 with 556 views | Herbivore |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Learn that if you find yourself as an asylum seeker you can literally pick and choose which country you would like to go to? Seems odd if you were truly so desperate to escape persecution you would be happy to get to get to anywhere safe for refuge. But you can keeping travelling for months to find the one that offers the best benefits. We must offer more than th other 3 or 4 countries they decided to travel through. Is this the ioswich message board or the guardian / momentum board. I do wonder sometimes |
I'm calling house! We have a winner of Bigot Bingo! He's wheeled out the benefits system now as well. Whilst your approach of throwing enough sh1t and hoping some of it will stick might work on, say, Facebook, it's not likely to fly here. If you've not already twigged, you're debating this subject with people who are all far more informed on it than you are. That is very evident here. It'd be a lot easier if you just came out and said what you really think rather than having every one of your 'arguments' debunked. You just don't want more brown people coming to the UK is what it boils down to. [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 17:28]
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:24 - Feb 28 with 550 views | wkj |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Learn that if you find yourself as an asylum seeker you can literally pick and choose which country you would like to go to? Seems odd if you were truly so desperate to escape persecution you would be happy to get to get to anywhere safe for refuge. But you can keeping travelling for months to find the one that offers the best benefits. We must offer more than th other 3 or 4 countries they decided to travel through. Is this the ioswich message board or the guardian / momentum board. I do wonder sometimes |
Actually, the UK offers less benefits than some of the EU countries you've mentioned. In the UK, the weekly allowance for a single adult asylum-seeker is £36.95 per week, lower than many other EU countries. The equivalent weekly rate in France, for example, is £58.50 (on an exchange rate of 73p to the euro). As for those asylum seekers choosing their location... Research tends to show that asylum-seekers know little of the asylum system in any individual country, including the UK, before arriving there. When asylum-seekers do decide they would prefer to reach a particular country to make an asylum claim, family, community and language connections tend to be key factors in making that decision. Source: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/truth-about-refugees#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20legal% See also: https://www.freemovement.org.uk/are-refugees-obliged-to-claim-asylum-in-the-firs For demographics on how the UK takes in less than many EU countries. I hope this is much more useful to your research than Nigel Farage's inaccurate tweets have been for Paz | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:24 - Feb 28 with 550 views | noggin |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:18 - Feb 28 by BluedanW | Learn that if you find yourself as an asylum seeker you can literally pick and choose which country you would like to go to? Seems odd if you were truly so desperate to escape persecution you would be happy to get to get to anywhere safe for refuge. But you can keeping travelling for months to find the one that offers the best benefits. We must offer more than th other 3 or 4 countries they decided to travel through. Is this the ioswich message board or the guardian / momentum board. I do wonder sometimes |
Can I ask, out of interest, in what way have asylum seekers negatively impacted your life? | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:24 - Feb 28 with 549 views | clive_baker | Ever considered changing your username to AprilFirst | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:28 - Feb 28 with 535 views | Herbivore |
That pretty much covers it. Sadly, though, I'm not sure how interested the likes of this chap and Paz are in facts and evidence, especially when the facts and evidence contradict rather than reinforce their prejudices. | |
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:28 - Feb 28 with 530 views | noggin |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:24 - Feb 28 by wkj | Actually, the UK offers less benefits than some of the EU countries you've mentioned. In the UK, the weekly allowance for a single adult asylum-seeker is £36.95 per week, lower than many other EU countries. The equivalent weekly rate in France, for example, is £58.50 (on an exchange rate of 73p to the euro). As for those asylum seekers choosing their location... Research tends to show that asylum-seekers know little of the asylum system in any individual country, including the UK, before arriving there. When asylum-seekers do decide they would prefer to reach a particular country to make an asylum claim, family, community and language connections tend to be key factors in making that decision. Source: https://www.amnesty.org.uk/truth-about-refugees#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20legal% See also: https://www.freemovement.org.uk/are-refugees-obliged-to-claim-asylum-in-the-firs For demographics on how the UK takes in less than many EU countries. I hope this is much more useful to your research than Nigel Farage's inaccurate tweets have been for Paz |
If only Britain hadn't taken the English language around the world by invading large parts of that world hey? [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 17:29]
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Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:32 - Feb 28 with 507 views | wkj |
Nsiala's improvement connected to not taking the knee? on 17:28 - Feb 28 by noggin | If only Britain hadn't taken the English language around the world by invading large parts of that world hey? [Post edited 28 Feb 2021 17:29]
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Yes, unfortunately we were only allowed to invade the first country we landed at | |
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