| Son of a legend 23:11 - Apr 24 with 12126 views | Keaneish |
Does he play like one? I’d watched enough of Dozzell last season to know he doesn’t have that drive to take him to the next level. This season has done nothing to change my opinion. If I was the son of a Town legend, I’d be leaving my heart and soul on that pitch after every 90 minutes to emulate my dad and to build my career. What have we got instead? A season of absent, abject, forgettable performances where you rarely know he’s on the pitch. No doubt Cook was referring to him with his comments this week about being accelerated to the first team too quickly, along with a few others.
Dozzell treats each game like a practice session and coasts from game to game with a rather distant, bemused look on his face. Given the option, I’d rather play the 35-year old Skuse next to Downes for the last games just to see the difference and really highlight how ineffective and forgettable he’s rapidly becoming.
I saw one good sharp pass into Edwards feet today, that was it. One pass. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 09:43 - Apr 25 with 2256 views | Mullet |
| Son of a legend on 09:39 - Apr 25 by 26_Paz |
I think it fits perfectly. Bills himself as a Rolls Royce, is actually a Skoda (before they became half reasonable). |
Where has he ever said that or anything close to it? |  |
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| Son of a legend on 09:46 - Apr 25 with 2241 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
If I'm really honest, the big issue with Dozzell and Bishop is that neither are going to reach full potential in THIS squad, never in a month of Sundays.
Both players, could be great players, both players could end up both being sold for £8m+ at some point in their careers, but BOTH need an experienced pro to guide them and mentor them on the pitch, but in this side: They are being asked to mentor each other, its like the blind leading the blind.
The club need to make a decision on both, but on Bishop first and foremost. He'll be 25 in July, he's not a young player anymore, and should really be coming into the peak of his career, to get the best out of Bishop, he needs to be alongside someone who can put a foot on the ball and break up play, so he has the confidence to get forward and make runs when he gets the ball to feet.
With Dozzell, I'm not sure if he's been badly advised, I assume by Lambert and coaches but it could be by his agent or someone else, but if that guy is a deep lying playmaker then I'm Ruud Gullit. It actually makes me angry when I see him turn up between the centre backs as I see it as such a waste of talent, he needs to be playing higher up the pitch, ball to feet, putting in incisive passes.
Dozzell is too lightweight to be the person breaking up play so Bish can get forward, too short to be winning headers in front of centre backs, and lacks the speed of thought to outthink experienced L1 midfielders when holding the line.
As I've said multiple times before, you can have one, but not both in a match day squad, and at this point in time, I'd rather have Bishop. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 09:53 - Apr 25 with 2222 views | Hullblue |
| Son of a legend on 09:38 - Apr 25 by Guthrum |
Think an issue with Dozzell - and other players, such as Nsiala - is that they've made one or two high visibility errors, which may have led to conceding goals. That then masks all the good work they do at other times. |
Definitely see your point but Dozzell’s only made one (that I can remember?) whereas Nsiala’s made at least five this season if you count penalty concessions.
I think Dozzell’s just the type of player that English football fans don’t appreciate. We prefer someone who’s perceived to be harder, like Downes, even when they’re horribly out of form. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 09:58 - Apr 25 with 2202 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Son of a legend on 08:54 - Apr 25 by StokieBlue |
Going to go for this again after the last time? I would have thought you'd never mention it again.
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You thought Paz would learn from a mistake? Honestly? |  |
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| Son of a legend on 09:59 - Apr 25 with 2192 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Son of a legend on 09:43 - Apr 25 by Mullet |
Where has he ever said that or anything close to it? |
And he has even accidentally used an analogy to show that with the right management he has all the potential too! | |
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| Son of a legend on 10:07 - Apr 25 with 2152 views | fergalsharkey |
| Son of a legend on 00:07 - Apr 25 by King_ding_a_lin_g |
I think people have short memories... he was running the show at the start of the season and it all went a bit wrong after his red card at Sunderland; as soon as the cracks started to show in the side and the whole team started to struggle.
He was first name on the team sheet before then but shouldn't be, which I think is the point Cook was trying to make. Dozzell is a good player, with potential to be a great player, who should be playing only when the pressure can be taken off him by experienced, tactically aware players around him. |
Running the show??
Where you on hallucinogens at the time?
I have not see an Ipswich player run the show for a decade or more. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 10:19 - Apr 25 with 2135 views | noggin |
| Son of a legend on 10:07 - Apr 25 by fergalsharkey |
Running the show??
Where you on hallucinogens at the time?
I have not see an Ipswich player run the show for a decade or more. |
2 decades, even. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 10:53 - Apr 25 with 2089 views | billlm |
| Son of a legend on 23:58 - Apr 24 by BlueBadger |
There's a player in there, but by lordy does he need some proper coaching and motivation. He's not had that, really. He's either been injured or playing under incompetent egomaniacs.
If we want to take Melford's post above as an example, in the struggling pub full of t0ssers taking the piss, Dozzell would be the smart young pot boy who's got the potential to be cellarman or head barman but he's being badly let down by those around him and the culture he's working in.
I wouldn't write him off yet. |
He still has a chance with proper coaching, beefing him self up a bit, sort of player who should be further up the field, but for me only a small chance, he's not done much for an allerged talented footbalker |  | | |
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| Son of a legend on 11:01 - Apr 25 with 2085 views | BlueBadger |
| Son of a legend on 10:53 - Apr 25 by billlm |
He still has a chance with proper coaching, beefing him self up a bit, sort of player who should be further up the field, but for me only a small chance, he's not done much for an allerged talented footbalker |
Again, look at the rubbish around him. You can't really play as a playmaker seeking to make *the* pass if no-one's making runs for you. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 11:02 - Apr 25 with 2085 views | BlueBadger |
| Son of a legend on 08:54 - Apr 25 by StokieBlue |
Going to go for this again after the last time? I would have thought you'd never mention it again.
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Unlike Paz to start doubling down on something stupid which he can't defend by any means other than whining about 'bullying'. | |
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| Son of a legend on 11:11 - Apr 25 with 2058 views | 26_Paz |
| Son of a legend on 11:02 - Apr 25 by BlueBadger |
Unlike Paz to start doubling down on something stupid which he can't defend by any means other than whining about 'bullying'. |
I’m saying he’s sh1t. Most people on this thread are saying he’s sh1t. I’m really not sure what the issue is. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 11:16 - Apr 25 with 2052 views | King_ding_a_lin_g |
| Son of a legend on 10:07 - Apr 25 by fergalsharkey |
Running the show??
Where you on hallucinogens at the time?
I have not see an Ipswich player run the show for a decade or more. |
Yeah ok, so 'running the show' was a bit strong... but I'm sure you know what I mean. He was becoming quite influencial. |  | | |
| Son of a legend on 11:17 - Apr 25 with 2049 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Son of a legend on 08:53 - Apr 25 by StokieBlue |
He played two good passes first time over the right back within the first 10 minutes and Bishop managed to be offside both times. If those were played to someone who knew how to run in behind your post would be about the two goals crafted by the beautiful first time passes by Dozzell.
This just highlights that one player can't do things entirely on his own. He's not been great this season but he also doesn't have any of the required runners around him to make use of his passing. It's all very well saying you only saw one pass but barely anyone offers for him during a match. If no pass is possible what do you want him to do?
Skuse did nothing when he came on, even less than Dozzell so I can't agree with that suggestion.
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"Skuse did nothing when he came on, even less than Dozzell so I can't agree with that suggestion."
He certainly moved faster! |  |
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| Son of a legend on 11:27 - Apr 25 with 2044 views | BlueBadger |
I like it when people start these 'boooo Dozzell' threads. It means you can quickly identify all the football illiterates who don't appreciate the wider game or how it works.
See also: Cole Skuse, Jermain Wright, Jim Magilton. | |
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| Son of a legend on 11:28 - Apr 25 with 2037 views | trncbluearmy |
| Son of a legend on 11:01 - Apr 25 by BlueBadger |
Again, look at the rubbish around him. You can't really play as a playmaker seeking to make *the* pass if no-one's making runs for you. |
Perfect illustration of that yesterday, two great balls over the defence well weighted,just needed a quality striker to time his run and Dozzell is MOM |  | | |
| Son of a legend on 11:44 - Apr 25 with 2011 views | noggin |
| Son of a legend on 11:27 - Apr 25 by BlueBadger |
I like it when people start these 'boooo Dozzell' threads. It means you can quickly identify all the football illiterates who don't appreciate the wider game or how it works.
See also: Cole Skuse, Jermain Wright, Jim Magilton. |
If he proves, later down the line, that he's a good player, we'll all be happy. I don't see why we have to get abusive at each other when someone questions his form. | |
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| Son of a legend on 11:46 - Apr 25 with 2007 views | longtimefan |
| Son of a legend on 09:46 - Apr 25 by Cheltenham_Blue |
If I'm really honest, the big issue with Dozzell and Bishop is that neither are going to reach full potential in THIS squad, never in a month of Sundays.
Both players, could be great players, both players could end up both being sold for £8m+ at some point in their careers, but BOTH need an experienced pro to guide them and mentor them on the pitch, but in this side: They are being asked to mentor each other, its like the blind leading the blind.
The club need to make a decision on both, but on Bishop first and foremost. He'll be 25 in July, he's not a young player anymore, and should really be coming into the peak of his career, to get the best out of Bishop, he needs to be alongside someone who can put a foot on the ball and break up play, so he has the confidence to get forward and make runs when he gets the ball to feet.
With Dozzell, I'm not sure if he's been badly advised, I assume by Lambert and coaches but it could be by his agent or someone else, but if that guy is a deep lying playmaker then I'm Ruud Gullit. It actually makes me angry when I see him turn up between the centre backs as I see it as such a waste of talent, he needs to be playing higher up the pitch, ball to feet, putting in incisive passes.
Dozzell is too lightweight to be the person breaking up play so Bish can get forward, too short to be winning headers in front of centre backs, and lacks the speed of thought to outthink experienced L1 midfielders when holding the line.
As I've said multiple times before, you can have one, but not both in a match day squad, and at this point in time, I'd rather have Bishop. |
I think a lot of that is right, especially the bit about where he plays. He really is not suited to the defensive side of the game, as seen in one passage of the first half. Wimbledon were breaking down the right and to his credit, Dozzell was chasing to get back. However, the whole time he was running back he was totally focused on the man who had the ball, who he was already being chased by defenders. Not once did he glance behind or to the side to see where the runners were who were likely to receive the ball from a cross. He ended up being in no mans land, where he couldn’t cut out a cross and was not marking anyone in the middle. I’ve noticed this many t8mes this season. For a player who generally has a good awareness of his team mate’s position going forward, he seems to have a complete lack of it from a defensive point of view with regard to opposition players. |  | | |
| Son of a legend on 11:51 - Apr 25 with 2002 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Son of a legend on 08:41 - Apr 25 by Hullblue |
People either have it in for Andre or just don’t understand his role and posts like this just prove it, for me.
According to Cook he’s been our best player in two out of our last three games (I realise this isn’t a high bar) and I agree with him. So if he’s flattered to deceive ‘EVERY’ time you’ve seen him play I’d suggest you’re not watching closely enough.
Defending obviously isn’t his strength but he makes far more interceptions etc than people give him credit for. He’s largely stopped getting booked like he did in the first half of the season and nobody’s given him any credit for improving this side of his game.
Set pieces - not saying his have been consistently brilliant but he smashed one onto the bar yesterday. Were you checking your phone when he did that? Or do you just not want to give him any credit because you’ve already made your mind up about him?
Deep midfielders aren’t supposed to ‘take people on’ or ‘run with the ball’ unless they’re Frankie De Jong who I suspect, even post takeover, is slightly out of our price range.
I suspect that his comments weren’t aimed at Dozzell because it was the same press conference where he picked him out for praise.
Would we miss him? Well he didn’t start at Wimbledon and we lost 3-0.
You say he needs protection but conceding goals from his zone isn’t exactly our biggest problem at the moment, is it?
His job is to help us build the play and IMO, he does it very well. We’re more comfortable playing out from the back that we have been for years. Our problem is the next bit - Dozzell (and it is usually Dozzell because he’s the one who’s found time and space) looks up and has zero movement/options in front of him.
Again, I’m not saying he’s been brilliant but he’s contributing so much more than Downes atm. Flynn looks either unfit or unmotivated and nobody’s picking up on it. I think we need to ask ourselves why that is. |
At last. Someone who knows what he is talking about. |  | | |
| Son of a legend on 11:53 - Apr 25 with 1999 views | billlm |
| Son of a legend on 11:01 - Apr 25 by BlueBadger |
Again, look at the rubbish around him. You can't really play as a playmaker seeking to make *the* pass if no-one's making runs for you. |
That's my hope for the kid tbh, that when we get better players that man mark tackle track back it will release him and give him the chance to see if there's anything there or not, | | | |
| Son of a legend on 11:56 - Apr 25 with 1993 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Son of a legend on 11:11 - Apr 25 by 26_Paz |
I’m saying he’s sh1t. Most people on this thread are saying he’s sh1t. I’m really not sure what the issue is. |
You calked him a fraud, no-one else has. | | | |
| Son of a legend on 11:57 - Apr 25 with 1994 views | longtimefan |
| Son of a legend on 11:51 - Apr 25 by reusersfreekicks |
At last. Someone who knows what he is talking about. |
I must have been looking at my phone then as I didn’t see Dozzell hit the bar from a free kick. I saw a defender head it against his own bar from a Dozzell free kick though! | | | |
| Son of a legend on 12:22 - Apr 25 with 1981 views | wkj |
I really don't understand why his father has anything to do with why people judge his performance and development.
See Harry Wright and Brooklyn Beckham for example. Either one of them are replicating the level their father did at their age - why is that?
Because they're different people... ohhhh...
So, to judge any young player against the quality of their parent is pointless.
Also - Doz has never once claimed himself to be something he's not, and Paz- to claim anything else without proof is bordering on the realms of Libel. That will be of your own benefit to let that sink in. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 13:00 - Apr 25 with 1947 views | StokieBlue |
| Son of a legend on 11:11 - Apr 25 by 26_Paz |
I’m saying he’s sh1t. Most people on this thread are saying he’s sh1t. I’m really not sure what the issue is. |
No they aren't, probably best to read the thread before making such assertions. I would also note that the balance of votes doesn't agree with the OP either.
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| Son of a legend on 13:03 - Apr 25 with 1945 views | SpruceMoose |
| Son of a legend on 13:00 - Apr 25 by StokieBlue |
No they aren't, probably best to read the thread before making such assertions. I would also note that the balance of votes doesn't agree with the OP either.
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Weird how many of the same people who are slating JD are the same folk who go weak at the knees at the very mention of the name James Norwood. |  |
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| Son of a legend on 13:26 - Apr 25 with 1902 views | ronnyd |
| Son of a legend on 00:05 - Apr 25 by Juggsy |
I thought he had a twin brother called 'Poorfrom' the amount of times I heard 'Poorfrom Dozzell" mentioned today! |
Uppie for the comedy element lol. | | | |
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