| Portman Road masks 10:31 - Jul 17 with 10757 views | bluelagos |
Hopefully we can keep this civil...
What you think the club should do?
Allow people the choice?
Insist on masks in the stadium?
Insist except when sat down?
Provide mask sections where they are compulsory?
Provide non mask areas?
No easy answers but maybe people can give their views so the club understands what people would like...
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| Portman Road masks on 11:24 - Jul 17 with 2613 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Portman Road masks on 11:18 - Jul 17 by SitfcB |
Thread deleted by the end of the day, just like yesterday’s. |
Interesting take. Not sure why you are predicting that discussing a contentious topic has to descend into personal abuse. |  |
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| Portman Road masks on 11:25 - Jul 17 with 2607 views | StokieBlue |
| Portman Road masks on 10:43 - Jul 17 by trncbluearmy |
Have no intention of wearing a mask in any area unless compulsory
however I appreciate this is a confidence/health issue , a journey back to normality, everybody will have their own time frame
Every ground not just FPR should have areas that can be social distanced, monitored, allowing people able to return to their normal seats when happy to do so
Sir Alf upper 3 and Cobbold A would be perfect [Post edited 17 Jul 2021 10:44]
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You mean like a leper colony for mask wearers?
Perhaps it should be the other way round? People who don't want to wear a mask can cram themselves into the Sir Alf Upper to their hearts content and share their droplets amongst themselves?
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| Portman Road masks on 11:27 - Jul 17 with 2595 views | borge |
| Portman Road masks on 11:19 - Jul 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There is a point at which people have to be trusted to take personal responsibility. The lanyard is widely recognised as proof. No one should treat you or anyone else badly because of that. Indeed, we should do extra to keep our distance from and avoid any behaviour that could potentially infect those in your situation for your sake.
Sitters is the only person I have seen openly state that he will flout it by obtaining a lanyard when he is not entitled to it. There are very few people that are so uncaring to do such a thing. |
Had you been at Wembley last Sunday you would have realised that sadly there are many, many uncaring idiots out there. |  | | |
| Portman Road masks on 11:28 - Jul 17 with 2600 views | StokieBlue |
| Portman Road masks on 11:18 - Jul 17 by SitfcB |
Thread deleted by the end of the day, just like yesterday’s. |
That entirely depends if you decide to start trolling again on serious subjects.
If you want to discuss it seriously then why would there be an issue?
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| Portman Road masks on 11:29 - Jul 17 with 2581 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Portman Road masks on 11:25 - Jul 17 by StokieBlue |
You mean like a leper colony for mask wearers?
Perhaps it should be the other way round? People who don't want to wear a mask can cram themselves into the Sir Alf Upper to their hearts content and share their droplets amongst themselves?
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I would imagine a comprehensive survey to find opinions would work best. Then the proportion of the ground with social distance and mask wearing can be allocated before deciding which areas are a free for all.
Of course, the safe areas should be allowed to exit the ground completely before the unsafe areas do too to reduce the chance of mixing outside the ground as well. | |
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| Portman Road masks on 11:31 - Jul 17 with 2569 views | brogansnose |
| Portman Road masks on 11:19 - Jul 17 by J2BLUE |
Quite possibly. Utterly moronic though as masks are mainly to protect others.
I think if anyone, anywhere, makes any comments to me about wearing a mask i'll take a leaf out of MM's book. |
I'll be doing the same. Why in chuff anyone should be bothered if I continue to wear a mask I've no idea.
Wider point is though that the hospitality areas are going to be busy and there's normally a crush to get out after the match so I can see that masks will be made to be worn in these areas and times. I think that the FA or EFL will issue guidelines that clubs will adhere to because if a link is made to football being spreader events then none of us are likely to be going to games.
Not applicable to the OP but for those of us outside of Ipswich then the matter of travelling in on packed East Anglian cattle trains and buses comes into play. My local bus company has stated that masks should be worn as much as possible and that from Monday there will be no social distancing and standing is allowed. |  | | |
| Portman Road masks on 11:31 - Jul 17 with 2566 views | StokieBlue |
| Portman Road masks on 11:29 - Jul 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I would imagine a comprehensive survey to find opinions would work best. Then the proportion of the ground with social distance and mask wearing can be allocated before deciding which areas are a free for all.
Of course, the safe areas should be allowed to exit the ground completely before the unsafe areas do too to reduce the chance of mixing outside the ground as well. |
I'm not really sure it should be down to peoples opinions, it should be down to the science. Just because the government decides to ignore the science it doesn't mean that everyone else should.
I would have them everywhere but I know that's not going to fly with a lot of people so at an absolutely minimum they should be compulsory in the concourses and in the toilets. The toilets are going to be an absolutely shocking vector of transmission if they aren't required there.
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| Portman Road masks on 11:33 - Jul 17 with 2558 views | Ryorry |
As the thread already shows, there are going to be polarised views on this.
Realistically & pragmatically, seems to me the best option would be to have separated mask-wearing/non-mask-wearing areas, as far away from each other as possible, and for seating in the mask-areas to be socially distanced. That might encourage those who are far from confident to return, and would have the bonus of displaying as a real, live opinion poll indicating to the Club the way to go for the next home game! |  |
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| Portman Road masks on 11:50 - Jul 17 with 2500 views | Nazemariner |
The only feasible way to go about it is to give people the choice.
The club has the final call, but if the government (science based) say that a mask is not required, then it will make it very difficult to enforce compulsory mask wearing.
Realistically, if you are so concerned about the wearing of masks, then you probably should be staying away.
For the record. I will wear a mask, but probably slip it off quite frequently when it starts to get annoying. [Post edited 17 Jul 2021 11:54]
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| Portman Road masks on 11:55 - Jul 17 with 2488 views | StokieBlue |
| Portman Road masks on 11:50 - Jul 17 by Nazemariner |
The only feasible way to go about it is to give people the choice.
The club has the final call, but if the government (science based) say that a mask is not required, then it will make it very difficult to enforce compulsory mask wearing.
Realistically, if you are so concerned about the wearing of masks, then you probably should be staying away.
For the record. I will wear a mask, but probably slip it off quite frequently when it starts to get annoying. [Post edited 17 Jul 2021 11:54]
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"but if the government (science based) say that a mask is not required"
One of the most comedic sentences written on here in a long time.
It's simply unbelievable that some people still think the government is going by the science. Even the government know they aren't following the science hence their change in stance to "you should really wear a mask but it's not compulsory".
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| Portman Road masks on 11:58 - Jul 17 with 2478 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Portman Road masks on 11:55 - Jul 17 by StokieBlue |
"but if the government (science based) say that a mask is not required"
One of the most comedic sentences written on here in a long time.
It's simply unbelievable that some people still think the government is going by the science. Even the government know they aren't following the science hence their change in stance to "you should really wear a mask but it's not compulsory".
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People still seem to think that the Government are "following the science" despite the open statements of scientists to the contrary.
People believe politicians ahead of experts. Especially when the politicians are telling them what they want to hear. | |
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| Portman Road masks on 12:00 - Jul 17 with 2464 views | hadleighboyblue |
| Portman Road masks on 11:33 - Jul 17 by Ryorry |
As the thread already shows, there are going to be polarised views on this.
Realistically & pragmatically, seems to me the best option would be to have separated mask-wearing/non-mask-wearing areas, as far away from each other as possible, and for seating in the mask-areas to be socially distanced. That might encourage those who are far from confident to return, and would have the bonus of displaying as a real, live opinion poll indicating to the Club the way to go for the next home game! |
It's a minefield isn't it .
With the figures getting so much worse , even before restrictions are lifted , clubs will have to do something .
Compulsory masks might not even be enough , next step would be 50% capacity with I follow available for those unable to attend .
Going to 50% of matches social distanced and having I follow for the other 50% might well be a reality | | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:14 - Jul 17 with 2427 views | Nazemariner |
| Portman Road masks on 11:55 - Jul 17 by StokieBlue |
"but if the government (science based) say that a mask is not required"
One of the most comedic sentences written on here in a long time.
It's simply unbelievable that some people still think the government is going by the science. Even the government know they aren't following the science hence their change in stance to "you should really wear a mask but it's not compulsory".
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The way I see it, is that you have two options. You either believe what your government tells you, albeit with a little trepidation, or you wear a tin hit. | | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:15 - Jul 17 with 2421 views | You_Bloo_Right |
I am sure that the owners will be paying close attention to the next few weeks. As they are aware they have a duty of care for all staff and visitors to PR so it seems what they won't do is "allow people the choice" nor create non-mask/compulsory mask sections from which to watch the game.
The logistics of making the stadium socially distanced for ST holders only is complicated but not impossible - if I were them I'd have been planning for this for quite some time. |  |
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| Portman Road masks on 12:19 - Jul 17 with 2407 views | BloomBlue |
I'll wear one based on personal situation. For example if we have to queue up to get in and people are standing too near I'll wear a mask. In the concourse I'll wear a mask. When seated in the ground if people outside of my known bubble are too near I'll wear a mask if no then I wont wear one.
What I will say is in the current situation seating should be compulsory and anyone standing should be thrown out, sitting is the rule. |  | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:22 - Jul 17 with 2395 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Portman Road masks on 10:57 - Jul 17 by TractorWood |
100% agree and I am currently in bed with the Wembley variant. |
Can I ask why you thought you could attend games at Wembley without being at risk, or did you just go because you wanted to ignoring the risk? |  |
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| Portman Road masks on 12:31 - Jul 17 with 2368 views | Kropotkin123 |
Ipswich branded mask or no entry. |  |
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| Portman Road masks on 12:32 - Jul 17 with 2364 views | Parky |
| Portman Road masks on 12:19 - Jul 17 by BloomBlue |
I'll wear one based on personal situation. For example if we have to queue up to get in and people are standing too near I'll wear a mask. In the concourse I'll wear a mask. When seated in the ground if people outside of my known bubble are too near I'll wear a mask if no then I wont wear one.
What I will say is in the current situation seating should be compulsory and anyone standing should be thrown out, sitting is the rule. |
Genuine question - what difference does it make if somebody is stood up, or somebody is sat down? [Post edited 17 Jul 2021 12:33]
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| Portman Road masks on 12:34 - Jul 17 with 2361 views | StokieBlue |
| Portman Road masks on 12:14 - Jul 17 by Nazemariner |
The way I see it, is that you have two options. You either believe what your government tells you, albeit with a little trepidation, or you wear a tin hit. |
But that's nonsense.
You should believe what the scientists tell you and you should don the tin hat if you're believing the government.
You've got things all backwards.
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| Portman Road masks on 12:44 - Jul 17 with 2318 views | reusersfreekicks |
Compulsory except when sat down maybe. 4th wave is happening |  | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:46 - Jul 17 with 2313 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Portman Road masks on 10:57 - Jul 17 by Stewart27 |
Why?
Covid is here forever.
We can’t keep going into lockdown every time the cases are high. |
Ffs get everyone vaccinated first. It's not lockdown is it! | | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:49 - Jul 17 with 2303 views | borge |
| Portman Road masks on 12:22 - Jul 17 by Pinewoodblue |
Can I ask why you thought you could attend games at Wembley without being at risk, or did you just go because you wanted to ignoring the risk? |
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I am not sure he's mentioned that he thought there would be no risk attending the game at Wembley.
I made the decision to go because I felt that there were sufficient safeguards in place to minimise my risk. I thought that the safeguards around positive tests or vaccination would be enforced by the powers that be. I also hadn't banked on 5,000 additional idiots turning up. Nor did I envisage that around 90% of the 60,000 with legitinate tickets would ignore all protocols and not bother with masks in areas where they should have done.
Clearly I was a naive fool to have positive expectations of my fellow human beings and hadn't anticipated so few people would exhibit what I view as common decency towards others. Now I am also suffering the consequences.
Your post may not have been intended to be, but it is crass, insensitive and pretty damn patronising, but well done for having such amazing powers of hindsight. | | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:51 - Jul 17 with 2300 views | CaptainAhab |
| Portman Road masks on 11:50 - Jul 17 by Nazemariner |
The only feasible way to go about it is to give people the choice.
The club has the final call, but if the government (science based) say that a mask is not required, then it will make it very difficult to enforce compulsory mask wearing.
Realistically, if you are so concerned about the wearing of masks, then you probably should be staying away.
For the record. I will wear a mask, but probably slip it off quite frequently when it starts to get annoying. [Post edited 17 Jul 2021 11:54]
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The problem with making masks personal choice is that those who choose not to wear them are exactly those who SHOULD be wearing them.
Should remain compulsory in all indoor areas. | | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:52 - Jul 17 with 2293 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Portman Road masks on 11:23 - Jul 17 by borge |
Me too! Almost zero mask wearing at Wembley even in the concourses. I wore a mask in the toilets and food queue, but was stupid enough not to wear one anywhere else. Anyone who thinks it's sensible not to wear a mask in an indoor area is a kn0b. |
Let this be a lesson to those who want a full opening without restrictions | | | |
| Portman Road masks on 12:53 - Jul 17 with 2291 views | BlueBadger |
| Portman Road masks on 11:12 - Jul 17 by Ely_Blue |
But then we also have our very own idiots who have no exemption who say “if I have to wear a mask I’ll order a lanyard from Amazon” |
What on earth would pazess someone to be that irresponsible AND selfish? |  |
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