| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit 19:54 - Apr 6 with 6672 views | Crawfordsboot |
That didn’t turn out well did it. Just watched a pig farmer in tears after being in the business for decades but is looking at having to slaughter his animals because they have no labour/butchers and he is losing 10k a week. |  | | |  |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 19:55 - Apr 6 with 5128 views | BlueBadger |
'But why, when I voted for leopards to bite my face off, are leopards biting my face off'? [Post edited 6 Apr 2022 22:58]
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 19:56 - Apr 6 with 5117 views | itfcjoe |
Farmers and fisherman wee some of the biggest advocates and been totally screwed over |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 19:57 - Apr 6 with 5105 views | footers |
With many being in receipt of EU subsidies. Oh well, never underestimate the stupidity of Brexiteers.
Wonder where they've all gone now... |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 20:29 - Apr 6 with 4988 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
To be fair, pig farmers have been struggling for much longer than that. Many were sold the lie of red tape and will have thought the grass must be greener. However, it is still correct that those who voted to leave fell for the lie. |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 20:37 - Apr 6 with 4953 views | footers |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 20:29 - Apr 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
To be fair, pig farmers have been struggling for much longer than that. Many were sold the lie of red tape and will have thought the grass must be greener. However, it is still correct that those who voted to leave fell for the lie. |
Which is really weird given the huge surge in demand for pork from China given another disease crisis which British business have helped fill, yet these plucky Brexiteers didn't benefit from this boom?
It's almost as if global trade is quite a complex thing and, in fact, doing deals with our nearest and richest neighbours was a better idea than opening up our economy to global market forces?
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 20:39 - Apr 6 with 4940 views | BloomBlue |
They asked every farmer in the UK? |  | | |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 20:39 - Apr 6 with 4940 views | ITFC_Forever |
Add fishermen to that as well. |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:01 - Apr 6 with 4871 views | peterleeblue |
I rather unwittingly suggested that Brexiteers did not actually know what they were voting for on a works team night out (after a few beers). I got torn apart!!!
They didn't though did they!!?
They voted for a load of false promises, lies, statements and unfounded rhetoric.
Sad but True! |  | | |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:06 - Apr 6 with 4835 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 19:57 - Apr 6 by footers |
With many being in receipt of EU subsidies. Oh well, never underestimate the stupidity of Brexiteers.
Wonder where they've all gone now... |
Still here!
This is Tory Brexit in Tory Britain. So all going splendidly so far. Perhaps they will be the next neo Liberal institution to fall. |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:28 - Apr 6 with 4773 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 19:56 - Apr 6 by itfcjoe |
Farmers and fisherman wee some of the biggest advocates and been totally screwed over |
Only those that weren’t advocates have been screwed over. The rest are reaping what they sowed. |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:35 - Apr 6 with 4741 views | Vic |
They’ve been caught in the perfect storm - Brexit, covid, feed prices quadrupled, and the same with firtilizer, plus I heard today from one of my soon to be ex pig farming friends, they are now bann3 from putting the manure on the land.
Whatever way the6 turn they are screwed |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:38 - Apr 6 with 4715 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:35 - Apr 6 by Vic |
They’ve been caught in the perfect storm - Brexit, covid, feed prices quadrupled, and the same with firtilizer, plus I heard today from one of my soon to be ex pig farming friends, they are now bann3 from putting the manure on the land.
Whatever way the6 turn they are screwed |
Banned from putting manure on the land? How do they reconcile that with it all being the EU's fault? As pointed out above Brexit was always going to be a disaster for them. The other issues are no more or less than farmers are facing worldwide. | |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:45 - Apr 6 with 4685 views | Vic |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:38 - Apr 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Banned from putting manure on the land? How do they reconcile that with it all being the EU's fault? As pointed out above Brexit was always going to be a disaster for them. The other issues are no more or less than farmers are facing worldwide. |
This particular pig farmer was ‘remain’ and so we’re the others I know in my neck of north suffolk.
He has just given notice to his employees that he’s closing the farm as he cannot sustain the losses. With regards the the muck spreading - it’s almost laughable but apparently the UK gov now only allow it on growing crops!!! Or so I was told today!
Brexit was alw@t’s going to be costly, but everything since then has made a bad situation worse. | |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:47 - Apr 6 with 4661 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:45 - Apr 6 by Vic |
This particular pig farmer was ‘remain’ and so we’re the others I know in my neck of north suffolk.
He has just given notice to his employees that he’s closing the farm as he cannot sustain the losses. With regards the the muck spreading - it’s almost laughable but apparently the UK gov now only allow it on growing crops!!! Or so I was told today!
Brexit was alw@t’s going to be costly, but everything since then has made a bad situation worse. |
Interesting as you are not far from me and all the farming folk I know were leave. | |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:54 - Apr 6 with 4642 views | Vic |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:47 - Apr 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Interesting as you are not far from me and all the farming folk I know were leave. |
Yeah, well what can I say! | |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 22:12 - Apr 6 with 4581 views | MattinLondon |
Prior to the vote, every time I passed a farm there seemed to be a huge ‘Leave’ banner facing the motorway. I’m struggling to see why I should feel sorry for a lot of them. |  | | |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 01:29 - Apr 7 with 4402 views | Ryorry |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 21:47 - Apr 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Interesting as you are not far from me and all the farming folk I know were leave. |
Drove up Swaledale the day before the Referendum. Numerous very large, very visible 'L E A V E' banners outside farm entrances all the way up. Not a single 'Remain' banner anywhere.
I certainly don't regard myself as particularly astute, but I don't vote tory, & only had to set my braincells to work at average pace for about 2 minutes to work out that leaving the EU would be a Bad Thing For British Farmers in a number of ways - most glaringly obviously that the tories can never be relied on to keep any of their promises, & that stopping free movement of EU nationals would inevitably result in shortages of pickers etc. |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 04:08 - Apr 7 with 4342 views | Eireannach_gorm |
Comparing the Irish attitude to the UK regarding the EU might help to explain why we have come to the current agriculture situation. Historically Ireland was a rural farming community with the bulk of employment and income in agriculture. This was one of the major factors in us joining the Common Market ( now EU ).
Over some turbulent times in agriculture, the EU rescued farmers around Europe ( remember the various food mountains and intervention schemes? ). This assistance continues up to this very day.
Due to worldwide desire for cheaper and cheaper food many farmers were not of a scale to maintain a viable living so farmer numbers and farm employment ( 7% compared to UK 1% ) has declined in Ireland. While there still is a significant agriculture sector, its importance is declining.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NV.AGR.TOTL.ZS?locations=IE-GB
The reason UK farming is now in crisis is because it is now a marginal income industry and with insults like fuel and fertiliser increases, reduced margins by being undercut by cheaper producers, lack of workers etc it is no longer sustainable.
While Ireland still has the EU safety net, there is little Tory interest in propping up UK agriculture ( not being a lucrative industry, they don't have much 'skin in the game' ).
There will be a lot more tears before this is over. |  | | |
| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 08:06 - Apr 7 with 4133 views | LeoMuff |
Tons of leave signs outside Cornwall farms, now there is no one to pick anything, my sympathies are zero. |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 08:33 - Apr 7 with 4078 views | gordon |
Think if you're intention is to highlight the folly of swallowing misinformation, then best not to do it by literally promoting misinformation that you've presumably swallowed because it conforms to your pre-existing views of farmers.
There are various figures for farmer support for Brexit (52% in this article), for example:
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-voting-farmers-buyers-remorse/
And this is a useful article for putting brexit support in demographic context:
https://westcountryvoices.co.uk/challenging-the-myth-that-farmers-voted-for-brex
But there's really not much support for farmers voting 2:1 in favour of Brexit - and the farming community was subject to an extraordinarily disgraceful, deceitful misinformation campaign by those pushing for Brexit, eg:
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 09:17 - Apr 7 with 4028 views | Bent_double |
As much as I agree with the general sentiment on here - by and large they voted for Brexit, so they should now suffer the consequences - we will all suffer in the long term, as farmers go out of business and we end up importing more meat and veg from abroad, costing us all more. |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 09:25 - Apr 7 with 4001 views | ElephantintheRoom |
To be fair the Brexit sold to farmers was indeed rather attractive. The problem is - and always was - that whilst remain only meant one thing, Brexit meant many things to many people, none of which had any basis in reality. I put it to you that the half way house we’ve ended up with, having NI excluded from the UK to enable a bunch of extremist Conservatives to hijack the process to win an election is not what anyone envisaged. I don’t recall it on the side of a bus anyway |  |
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| I believe that farmers voted 2:1 for Brexit on 09:49 - Apr 7 with 3955 views | mo_itfc |
I hope everyone remembers when the next general election comes up...
Voting for the rich to get richer, means we all suffer!
Brexit was a mistake, it was frightening watching large amounts of people being brainwashed. I hope lessons are being learnt and we stop making these dumb mistakes.
Any know where this £350million a week to the NHS has gone??
Although as a town fan, I can't wait to get a blue passport! | |
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