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With his contract up in the summer what is the consensus on him? Consistently our top scorer for all his limitations. However, with bonne going back to qpr, id also let piggott go if we can get interest, he's not getting any game time which indicates mckenna may not trust him (piggott). Would you give norwood another year? Without doubt we need 2 maybe 3 new strikers and will norwood accept not necessarily being top man next season?
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Norwood - contract on 00:52 - Apr 10 with 1587 views
Under old regime we would probably be forced to build a team around him however with new setup and the standard of players bought in first summer window I would expect he will be moved on and replaced. The same goes for Piggott for whatever reason it hasn’t worked out under cook and certainly doesn’t fit into the profile of player that KMK requires at the top end of the pitch.
I would expect us to keep Jackson, possibly Bonne and our marquee signing will be a relatively speaking top striker for this division.
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Norwood - contract on 09:05 - Apr 10 with 1501 views
I’d say no on balance but the deeper question is what is the solution to our lack of cutting-edge? Because as it stands we can’t really get a consistent tune out of Bonne, Norwood, Pigott and Jackson (he looked the best but it’s a much smaller sample size than Bonne’s early season flurry). Included in the conundrum are the talents of Celina, Chaplin, Aluko and Fraser and how they haven’t really gelled with the forwards either.
If it wasn’t for the combination of Burns and Donacien on the right then we’d have little cutting edge at all, and they’re ostensibly defenders.
To me that suggests that it’s not really about individuals but about how we’re trying to play. But I think it’s something McKenna can sort out over the summer with a little player turnover. And also by sorting out a more solid left flank solution plus first-choice partner for Morsy in the middle. Because I think if we had as clear and confident an approach from those areas as on the right, then we wouldn’t be talking about a lack of cutting edge and questions re: Norwood or whoever would be an awful lot clearer.
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Norwood - contract on 09:20 - Apr 10 with 1478 views
Norwood - contract on 09:05 - Apr 10 by Darth_Koont
No clue TBH.
I’d say no on balance but the deeper question is what is the solution to our lack of cutting-edge? Because as it stands we can’t really get a consistent tune out of Bonne, Norwood, Pigott and Jackson (he looked the best but it’s a much smaller sample size than Bonne’s early season flurry). Included in the conundrum are the talents of Celina, Chaplin, Aluko and Fraser and how they haven’t really gelled with the forwards either.
If it wasn’t for the combination of Burns and Donacien on the right then we’d have little cutting edge at all, and they’re ostensibly defenders.
To me that suggests that it’s not really about individuals but about how we’re trying to play. But I think it’s something McKenna can sort out over the summer with a little player turnover. And also by sorting out a more solid left flank solution plus first-choice partner for Morsy in the middle. Because I think if we had as clear and confident an approach from those areas as on the right, then we wouldn’t be talking about a lack of cutting edge and questions re: Norwood or whoever would be an awful lot clearer.
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We need someone that can stretch the game and go in behind. Pushes the opposition defence back 10 yards and gives us more space for the likes of Chaplin, Aluko and Celina to play in. We were starting to really purr when Jackson was getting into his stride.
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Norwood - contract on 23:02 - Apr 10 with 1402 views
I like him in the squad from a footballing perspective, we need his hustle and bustle, but he's always busting for a fight and is a bit of a liability in that regard. Winds himself up more than the oppo? Both parties should possibly move on.
That's incredibly naive. A liability? Can you find any instances of red cards or suspensions?
If you can stomach the Talking Town podcast listen to or watch their Norwood edition. He talked about the Morecambe game on the first day of the season - he said he came on and the first thing he wanted to do was 'smash someone' and get the team and crowd up, because they needed it. Their full back was buying fouls all over the place and Norwood gave him and the referee an earful. He changed that game, Bonne scored the equalizer but Norwood had the real impact.
I still think there's an element of us being 'nice little Ipswich' when it comes to players like JN, without wanting to sound like Roy Keane. Brenner doesn't like his aggression I've noticed and often mocks him getting involved in things. We're not going to be successful by being nice.
We need to be looking for better options. Jackson surprised us this season without blowing anyone away, but he's added a lot of value by being able to be flexible across two positions. If we can get a striker who fits McKenna's description to fit into that, we'll be better off than Norwood's output. Names like Cole Stockton and a young, tall, 24-year-old Matty Stevens (Forest Green Rovers) could be a revelation for us under McKenna's young and athletic description.
Matty Stevens (#9) in action, and why I like him (He is VERY clever off the ball)
That's incredibly naive. A liability? Can you find any instances of red cards or suspensions?
If you can stomach the Talking Town podcast listen to or watch their Norwood edition. He talked about the Morecambe game on the first day of the season - he said he came on and the first thing he wanted to do was 'smash someone' and get the team and crowd up, because they needed it. Their full back was buying fouls all over the place and Norwood gave him and the referee an earful. He changed that game, Bonne scored the equalizer but Norwood had the real impact.
I still think there's an element of us being 'nice little Ipswich' when it comes to players like JN, without wanting to sound like Roy Keane. Brenner doesn't like his aggression I've noticed and often mocks him getting involved in things. We're not going to be successful by being nice.
It can be good and bad to be honest. I agree that we've been guilty of being too nice and not street smart enough over recent years. However, he's a bit of a bull in a china shop and quite often when he is on the pitch we lose our shape and structure. I know he scored on Saturday but his link up/positional play was terrible.
Someone said in this thread we don't play to his strengths - that's correct and we never will so it seems a bit silly for all parties for him to stay here.
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Norwood - contract on 08:34 - Apr 11 with 1293 views
Will probably go, but I'd absolutely keep him for the squad as we'll struggle to get much better without spending and the money can be used elsewhere. All this talk of "baggage" is typical jump on the band wagon stuff. Yes, the drink drive offence is poor, but that's pretty much it isn't it and he's hardly the first footballer/person to do it and won't be the last unfortunately. As for the twitter stuff, if you don't like his views, don't follow him. His attitude on the pitch is what we often moan about not having, I.e a bit of fight which is exactly what you need in this league. It's not a pretty league but if he stays fit, then he scores goals. Not sure he's ever been sent off for us or had many suspensions, so discipline clearly isn't a big issue.
"we'll struggle to get much better without spending and the money can be used elsewhere"
we have money to spend..... and the position we are currently struggling, is up top, and getting goals..... so the money we have will go on improving the strikers.
Pretty much the only threat we have at the minute. I'd love to know who people think we could sign who is a significant improvement on him. We need a reality check here. We're a mid table league 1 team, we dominate the ball but create very little and we've got people already deciding we're going to pìss the league next season. For me we definitely need Norwood as part of the squad, he creates chances for others and himself through his workrate and the type of runs he makes.
"I'd love to know who people think we could sign who is a significant improvement on him."
I don't know who exactly as I don't follow other clubs, but if we can get the likes of Celina, Morsy and Walton in the building, then we can get a better striker than James Norwood.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Norwood - contract on 08:39 - Apr 11 with 1273 views
"I'd love to know who people think we could sign who is a significant improvement on him."
I don't know who exactly as I don't follow other clubs, but if we can get the likes of Celina, Morsy and Walton in the building, then we can get a better striker than James Norwood.
if we cant find an upgrade on norwood, with the backing the club now has, we may as well all give up.
It can be good and bad to be honest. I agree that we've been guilty of being too nice and not street smart enough over recent years. However, he's a bit of a bull in a china shop and quite often when he is on the pitch we lose our shape and structure. I know he scored on Saturday but his link up/positional play was terrible.
Someone said in this thread we don't play to his strengths - that's correct and we never will so it seems a bit silly for all parties for him to stay here.
Nothing wrong with a bull in a china shop when needed. It's a similar role Morsy plays just further back. He's on a different level so not a direct comparison.
I agree he doesn't suit the philosophy really, not technical enough. But for me the reality is you won't be able to stick to that philosophy for 46 games a season. Don't know why you wouldn't keep him around as a squad player if he was up for fighting for his place. Not sure the wages argument stacks up either, anyone we replace him with isn't exactly going to be on peanuts.
We need to be looking for better options. Jackson surprised us this season without blowing anyone away, but he's added a lot of value by being able to be flexible across two positions. If we can get a striker who fits McKenna's description to fit into that, we'll be better off than Norwood's output. Names like Cole Stockton and a young, tall, 24-year-old Matty Stevens (Forest Green Rovers) could be a revelation for us under McKenna's young and athletic description.
Matty Stevens (#9) in action, and why I like him (He is VERY clever off the ball)
Norwood That’s a no for me. We’ve seen enough over several years to see his limited talents. Young hungry and athletic has to be the way forwards. If we need an experienced striker in the mix he’s not that player, plus we have Jackson and Pigott approaching 30s should we choose to keep them.
Aiye, I was aware of his ACL injury and forgot to put it in this post. Definitely approaching the situation from an optimistic POV, that is to say - hoping the injury doesn't impact his quality.
If not for that injury, I would have expected a number of teams would be making enquiries as he really is a great young talent, or was.
That's incredibly naive. A liability? Can you find any instances of red cards or suspensions?
If you can stomach the Talking Town podcast listen to or watch their Norwood edition. He talked about the Morecambe game on the first day of the season - he said he came on and the first thing he wanted to do was 'smash someone' and get the team and crowd up, because they needed it. Their full back was buying fouls all over the place and Norwood gave him and the referee an earful. He changed that game, Bonne scored the equalizer but Norwood had the real impact.
I still think there's an element of us being 'nice little Ipswich' when it comes to players like JN, without wanting to sound like Roy Keane. Brenner doesn't like his aggression I've noticed and often mocks him getting involved in things. We're not going to be successful by being nice.
MK Dons and Wigan aren't noticeably any nastier than we are and they're doing alright?
Can we really build a case for extending Norwood's contract on the basis that he's aggressive? It's not like it's a rare personality trait in a centre forward.
Was this before Saturday or after it? Did he celebrate on Saturday?
He told them this pre-Christmas and before McKenna had even joined. If you look at all his goal celebrations since there's zero fan engagement. The guy has milked us dry and will go off back into the lower league journeyman abyss. He'll realise in 10-15 years time just how much of an opportunity he wasted here.
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