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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... 16:48 - Sep 8 with 7041 viewsOriginalMarkyP

...you wonder if they'll cancel all sports fixtures over the weekend?

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:06 - Sep 8 with 1773 viewscressi

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 17:49 - Sep 8 by Dubtractor

This is where I'm at.

Also, I hate 'forced' respects/mourning. People can and will pay their respects in their own way - I get that the Queen means a huge amount to a huge % of our population, and they will all mourn her loss without needing it spoon fed to them.


Il be on holiday like the jubilee without been rude I'm not really interested , just don't watch TV and get to listen to it
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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:08 - Sep 8 with 1748 viewsBig_Jase

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:03 - Sep 8 by jeera

I haven't said anything of the sort.

I'm saying this is what's happening, it's a big deal whether [some] people like it or not and it shouldn't come as a surprise if a few things are cancelled given the gravity of the situation.

Not everything has to be a debate.

I repeat for the twenty zillionth hundreds* time I am not a monarchist. The concept is alien to me.

*I learned these numbers from Priti Patel.

But respect for our nation's representative for the past several decades, beyond the lifetime of most of us and through times many of us have not endured should not just be taken for granted. Not that is my opinion.

I was looking forward to Saturday by the way.


Fair enough Jeera, I got it wrong.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:09 - Sep 8 with 1748 viewsclive_baker

I wouldn't describe myself as a rabid royalist, but I do respect the Queen enormously and frankly I don't have any objection to the monarchy. Respect those who do and there's perfectly valid arguments against it, but can't say I would be in a hurry to disband it.

That said, I think 10 days of mourning and cancelling life isn't appropriate, for a whole host of reasons. As others have said, the economic impact is one reason, but also given there are people who don't agree with the monarchy it just gives more rise to that IMO and creates division. It brings to the fore an issue that really need not be stoked to be honest. The less division the better, of course celebrate the Queen and mourn her passing if you see fit, but I don't see why that can't be done by those that want to, alongside 'normal life' without all the disruption.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:11 - Sep 8 with 1720 viewsStochesStotasBlewe

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 17:48 - Sep 8 by jeera

We're talking about the Head of State of a number of countries for 70 years.

And there are people asking if football might be cancelled for a weekend.

I'm not a monarchist, but reality has to have some place too.

It's not just about respecting her as an individual, it's the end of an era.

The end of that era may be mourned and welcomed in equal measure by different people for many valid reasons, but there's no getting away with how big a deal historically this is.
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Good post Jeera.
I am a monarchist, have enormous respect and admiration for The Queen, the magnificent service she has given the country and commonwealth and been a superb ambassador at home and abroad.
However, when the inevitable happens, if it hasn't already, i don't believe things should be cancelled or put on hold, and i dont think HM The Queen would want that either.

Your last sentence is most poignant. It will indeed be the end of an era as most of us have only known her as Head of State.

We have no village green, or a shop. It's very, very quiet. I can walk to the pub.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:13 - Sep 8 with 1700 viewsArnoldMoorhen

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 16:56 - Sep 8 by hoppy

So we've got a West End Theatre show tomorrow night, ITFC v Cambridge on Saturday, Comedy Night on Monday night, ITFC v Bristol Rovers on Tuesday night, travelling to Bristol on Thursday for a funeral on Friday, then another show in London on Sunday 18th, which all fall within the 10 day period being spoken of.

How many of those are likely to be cancelled/postponed?


If the official protocol is followed, then all of them apart from the Funeral, I am afraid.

Fresher's week in Edinburgh next week. It's going to the third one in a row completely wiped out. You have to feel sorry for the young uns, they have had a pretty dreadful "best years of their lives".
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I think that previous instances.... on 18:15 - Sep 8 with 1683 viewsBloots

Agreed, but that just.... on 17:45 - Sep 8 by MattinLondon

Making up scenarios like this isn’t really productive - it simply demonises fans of those clubs.


....of how certain fans behave when it comes to the royal family demonises them rather than Rommy.

We'll see, but I entirely expect you have far too much faith in people being vaguely respectful.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:16 - Sep 8 with 1679 viewsjeera

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:11 - Sep 8 by StochesStotasBlewe

Good post Jeera.
I am a monarchist, have enormous respect and admiration for The Queen, the magnificent service she has given the country and commonwealth and been a superb ambassador at home and abroad.
However, when the inevitable happens, if it hasn't already, i don't believe things should be cancelled or put on hold, and i dont think HM The Queen would want that either.

Your last sentence is most poignant. It will indeed be the end of an era as most of us have only known her as Head of State.


Such a good post you couldn't even be bothered to give a little upvote.

Just a little tap to the keyboard there, or the mouse. Would it have hurt you? No, no it wouldn't.

To the left a tad, that's it. Just there, that one.

No not that one, the other left!

Ffs.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:18 - Sep 8 with 1650 viewsnoggin

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:16 - Sep 8 by jeera

Such a good post you couldn't even be bothered to give a little upvote.

Just a little tap to the keyboard there, or the mouse. Would it have hurt you? No, no it wouldn't.

To the left a tad, that's it. Just there, that one.

No not that one, the other left!

Ffs.


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Agreed, but that just.... on 18:21 - Sep 8 with 1614 viewsnoggin

Agreed, but that just.... on 17:43 - Sep 8 by The_Romford_Blue

I’d have every pound I’ve got on Celtic fans partying and celebrating her death. A minutes silence would be a silly thing to do knowing their hatred of the monarchy


Some might, most won't.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:24 - Sep 8 with 1599 viewsTrequartista

Why does it need a code name? What if London Bridge does actually fall - everyone would be totally confused.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:27 - Sep 8 with 1565 viewsclive_baker

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:24 - Sep 8 by Trequartista

Why does it need a code name? What if London Bridge does actually fall - everyone would be totally confused.


There's a plan for that, it's Operation Queenie.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:48 - Sep 8 with 1470 viewshoppy

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 17:35 - Sep 8 by BiGDonnie

Will Schools stay open during the mourning period?


Ours had said earlier that they would remain open, apart from the National day of mourning, and the day of the funeral.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 19:02 - Sep 8 with 1385 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 17:48 - Sep 8 by Ryorry

I'm not anti-monarchy, have always hugely respected the Queen, & even I think 10 days would be hugely overdoing it - surely 24 hrs, or at the most 48, of cancellations, sad music etc. would be more appropriate in this day & age. Those who want to mourn longer would still be free to carry on doing so, tailoring their lives to suit. Those who don't want to will always find other outlets anyway.

Even within such a 24/48 hour period, I really don't think all TV/radio channels should be made to carry the same sombre material either - what does it achieve? If people want to watch The Simpsons or a wildlife documentary it doesn't mean they're being disrespectful. Can't be good for mental health to focus exclusively on single topic sombre material either.


Spot on Ryorry.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 19:05 - Sep 8 with 1367 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 17:48 - Sep 8 by jeera

We're talking about the Head of State of a number of countries for 70 years.

And there are people asking if football might be cancelled for a weekend.

I'm not a monarchist, but reality has to have some place too.

It's not just about respecting her as an individual, it's the end of an era.

The end of that era may be mourned and welcomed in equal measure by different people for many valid reasons, but there's no getting away with how big a deal historically this is.
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Yes it's a huge achievement and indeed the end of an era. But I don't really see what cancelling football (or any other forms of entertainment) has to do with it.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 19:15 - Sep 8 with 1337 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 17:48 - Sep 8 by jeera

We're talking about the Head of State of a number of countries for 70 years.

And there are people asking if football might be cancelled for a weekend.

I'm not a monarchist, but reality has to have some place too.

It's not just about respecting her as an individual, it's the end of an era.

The end of that era may be mourned and welcomed in equal measure by different people for many valid reasons, but there's no getting away with how big a deal historically this is.
[Post edited 8 Sep 2022 17:49]


Well there is that.....but I still haven’t got to use my season ticket yet so.........

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 19:46 - Sep 8 with 1248 viewsOldFart71

Even being in my 70's I cannot remember anyone other than Queen Elizabeth 2nd. I saw her in early 60's when she was in Stowmarket. She has served us loyally for 70 years and every respect for that. But I do not believe we are in any way like the Victorians. There won't be moaning and wailing and people throwing themselves to the ground due to Her Majesty's passing. She will lay in State. Apparently firstly in Scotland and then at West Minister Abbey, then there will be a State funeral. Personally I can see no reason for sport to cease between now and the funeral as long as a certain amount of decorum is observed.
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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 20:27 - Sep 8 with 1166 viewsbilllm

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 17:33 - Sep 8 by Dubtractor

Gotta be honest, I think cancelling everything wouldn't be the right response, though I suspect it is what will happen.

I am saying that as someone who would broadly describe myself as anti monarchy though - like a lot of people I have no issue with the queen, but the other dickheads can all do one.


Life should go on, it's the majority who suffer for a few, if people want to mourn that's fine, but she was 96, hardly a shock, I'm neither for or against the royal family a minute's silence is all that is needed,
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Agreed, but that just.... on 20:48 - Sep 8 with 1111 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Agreed, but that just.... on 17:45 - Sep 8 by MattinLondon

Making up scenarios like this isn’t really productive - it simply demonises fans of those clubs.


Literally every club other to Celtic have tweets their condolences.

And the Celtic fans on mass are celebrating the news. Scum.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 20:52 - Sep 8 with 1104 viewsSwansea_Blue

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 18:09 - Sep 8 by clive_baker

I wouldn't describe myself as a rabid royalist, but I do respect the Queen enormously and frankly I don't have any objection to the monarchy. Respect those who do and there's perfectly valid arguments against it, but can't say I would be in a hurry to disband it.

That said, I think 10 days of mourning and cancelling life isn't appropriate, for a whole host of reasons. As others have said, the economic impact is one reason, but also given there are people who don't agree with the monarchy it just gives more rise to that IMO and creates division. It brings to the fore an issue that really need not be stoked to be honest. The less division the better, of course celebrate the Queen and mourn her passing if you see fit, but I don't see why that can't be done by those that want to, alongside 'normal life' without all the disruption.


Kind of agree with all that, as long as I still get my extra public holiday!

I’m going to be treading on eggshells as the Mrs’ family are all Welsh nats, so very anti-royal. I think I’m just going to keep my head down and stay quiet.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:01 - Sep 8 with 1068 viewsjeera

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 19:05 - Sep 8 by The_Flashing_Smile

Yes it's a huge achievement and indeed the end of an era. But I don't really see what cancelling football (or any other forms of entertainment) has to do with it.


I haven't suggested it should be.

You're doing an eddy.

Nor have I said it (her reign) was an achievement. She wasn't a small child collecting star stickers for good behaviour.

I am sure, as I find myself repeating again, it's not hard to see why there would be a national mourning given the circumstances. I will be bored out of my mind and will wish that the usual stuff was available to me, but being an adult I can also understand why this might not be the case.

Honestly, it's not complicated.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:09 - Sep 8 with 1030 viewsJ2BLUE

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 20:52 - Sep 8 by Swansea_Blue

Kind of agree with all that, as long as I still get my extra public holiday!

I’m going to be treading on eggshells as the Mrs’ family are all Welsh nats, so very anti-royal. I think I’m just going to keep my head down and stay quiet.


Apparently there will be a 'day of mourning' and it will be left up to businesses to decide if they should open.

You really can't make it up. The majority of businesses will choose to stay open. I know the company I work for will stay open.

If we're supposed to care as much as the media keep saying we do then surely it should be a bank holiday.

Truly impaired.
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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:41 - Sep 8 with 962 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:01 - Sep 8 by jeera

I haven't suggested it should be.

You're doing an eddy.

Nor have I said it (her reign) was an achievement. She wasn't a small child collecting star stickers for good behaviour.

I am sure, as I find myself repeating again, it's not hard to see why there would be a national mourning given the circumstances. I will be bored out of my mind and will wish that the usual stuff was available to me, but being an adult I can also understand why this might not be the case.

Honestly, it's not complicated.


You seem awfully defensive. I haven't suggested you have suggested it should be. I was merely conveying how I don't see the link to football. You can have mourning without shutting everything down, and it has nothing to do with being an adult either.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:42 - Sep 8 with 958 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:09 - Sep 8 by J2BLUE

Apparently there will be a 'day of mourning' and it will be left up to businesses to decide if they should open.

You really can't make it up. The majority of businesses will choose to stay open. I know the company I work for will stay open.

If we're supposed to care as much as the media keep saying we do then surely it should be a bank holiday.


Bank holidays are no use to those of us who are freelancers or in the gig economy. In fact it will cost us money. No-one ever thinks of that though.

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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:51 - Sep 8 with 940 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:09 - Sep 8 by J2BLUE

Apparently there will be a 'day of mourning' and it will be left up to businesses to decide if they should open.

You really can't make it up. The majority of businesses will choose to stay open. I know the company I work for will stay open.

If we're supposed to care as much as the media keep saying we do then surely it should be a bank holiday.


Might get an official holiday when ruddy-faced Charlie gets his Coronation?
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If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 22:53 - Sep 8 with 888 viewsSwansea_Blue

If London Bridge has indeed fallen... on 21:09 - Sep 8 by J2BLUE

Apparently there will be a 'day of mourning' and it will be left up to businesses to decide if they should open.

You really can't make it up. The majority of businesses will choose to stay open. I know the company I work for will stay open.

If we're supposed to care as much as the media keep saying we do then surely it should be a bank holiday.


What? Can't let the death of our monarch get in the way of a bit of capitalism, eh? If we were France we'd be closed for a week.

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