OneLove Armband 09:59 - Nov 21 with 7662 views | Metal_Hacker | Now confirmed we're NOT wearing it |  |
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OneLove Armband on 11:39 - Nov 21 with 1406 views | BlueStreak |
OneLove Armband on 11:33 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | 29 upvotes for the 5th comment down. Well done TWTD. |
Haven't you highlight exactly what this point is about though, freedom to do as someone wishes? If SM doesn't want to wear something for one reason or another (his choice) that is ok. If someone wishes to wear something for the same reason (their choice) that is ok. Not being allowed to do either and having your hand forced to appease other people, is not ok. |  | |  |
OneLove Armband on 11:39 - Nov 21 with 1401 views | HighgateBlue |
OneLove Armband on 10:53 - Nov 21 by DecageBruce | For the Iran game I would like to see Pope start upfront wearing the Rainbow Armband, receive the booking and then be subbed off immediately for Kane |
Unfortunately there hasn't been an English Pope for almost 900 years. Thank goodness Baddiel and Skinner weren't around then, otherwise we'd be up to almost 900 years of hurt.... |  | |  |
Arf on 11:42 - Nov 21 with 1377 views | Dyland |
OneLove Armband on 11:27 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | Trying to remember how many people accused me of all sorts when I asked what everyone thought of Morsy not wearing one. Long as you can live with your hypocrisy lads. |
Oh Chickers.... :) |  |
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OneLove Armband on 11:44 - Nov 21 with 1349 views | stonojnr |
OneLove Armband on 10:46 - Nov 21 by Ryorry | Yep, there are definitely other, clever ways of doing this if England engage their brains (and the FA agree ...). ðŸ³ï¸â€ðŸŒˆ |
rainbow laces ? rainbow boots ? rainbow bandages ? presumably given FIFA are springing these changes at the last minute, it makes sense for any team/players planning to do something to highlight the cause, not to announce it publically first and give FIFA the heads up to invent a new rule banning it. |  | |  |
OneLove Armband on 11:46 - Nov 21 with 1324 views | eireblue |
OneLove Armband on 11:27 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | Trying to remember how many people accused me of all sorts when I asked what everyone thought of Morsy not wearing one. Long as you can live with your hypocrisy lads. |
Be brave. Stop hiding behind “lads” and “TWTD”. Name the people you think are hypocrites and why. |  | |  |
OneLove Armband on 11:48 - Nov 21 with 1310 views | chicoazul |
OneLove Armband on 11:46 - Nov 21 by eireblue | Be brave. Stop hiding behind “lads” and “TWTD”. Name the people you think are hypocrites and why. |
I even linked to the thread. |  |
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OneLove Armband on 11:50 - Nov 21 with 1303 views | chicoazul |
OneLove Armband on 11:39 - Nov 21 by BlueStreak | Haven't you highlight exactly what this point is about though, freedom to do as someone wishes? If SM doesn't want to wear something for one reason or another (his choice) that is ok. If someone wishes to wear something for the same reason (their choice) that is ok. Not being allowed to do either and having your hand forced to appease other people, is not ok. |
What if his choice is based on intolerance and homophobia? We don’t know what his choice was based on. The club didn’t say anything and the media, including I believe Phil, didn’t ask. |  |
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OneLove Armband on 11:50 - Nov 21 with 1297 views | eireblue |
OneLove Armband on 11:48 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | I even linked to the thread. |
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Arf on 11:50 - Nov 21 with 1297 views | chicoazul |
Arf on 11:42 - Nov 21 by Dyland | Oh Chickers.... :) |
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OneLove Armband on 11:51 - Nov 21 with 1289 views | Mookamoo |
OneLove Armband on 11:44 - Nov 21 by stonojnr | rainbow laces ? rainbow boots ? rainbow bandages ? presumably given FIFA are springing these changes at the last minute, it makes sense for any team/players planning to do something to highlight the cause, not to announce it publically first and give FIFA the heads up to invent a new rule banning it. |
The boots would be the obvious place for a comment/symbol. Especially if someone like Nike want to gazump Adidas and take the moral high ground. Come up with a unique symbol that FIFA can't ban and communicate the meaning through ads during the break. |  | |  |
OneLove Armband on 11:53 - Nov 21 with 1273 views | chicoazul |
OneLove Armband on 11:50 - Nov 21 by eireblue | Still hiding. |
It’s all there. I’m not going to draw you a picture. |  |
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OneLove Armband on 11:55 - Nov 21 with 1255 views | MJallday | I’m afraid this decision just shows FIFA up for the homophobes that they are. Personally, after the tournament, I’d renounce any association with them and start another one , perhaps one that doesn’t take bungs and doesn’t gay bash. But that’s just my opinion |  |
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OneLove Armband on 11:57 - Nov 21 with 1232 views | Coastalblue |
OneLove Armband on 11:50 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | What if his choice is based on intolerance and homophobia? We don’t know what his choice was based on. The club didn’t say anything and the media, including I believe Phil, didn’t ask. |
That's an entirely different discussion you're trying to have there. Have you read the thread or just seen the title and decided to jump in? |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:00 - Nov 21 with 1208 views | eireblue |
OneLove Armband on 11:53 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | It’s all there. I’m not going to draw you a picture. |
Because you can’t. |  | |  |
OneLove Armband on 12:01 - Nov 21 with 1206 views | Keno |
OneLove Armband on 11:50 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | What if his choice is based on intolerance and homophobia? We don’t know what his choice was based on. The club didn’t say anything and the media, including I believe Phil, didn’t ask. |
Being serious for a moment for what its worth my two penneth on this is that we live in what is supposed to a free society so if someone wants to wear a rainbow armband, for whatever reason, they should be free to do and if someone doesnt want to, for whatever reason, they should be free not too. What I am not comfortable with is those freedom being taken away, especially in a situation like the Qatar World Cup where is was obviously always going to be issue that various world FA's, Broadcasters and big business could, and maybe should, take a stand over. |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:04 - Nov 21 with 1186 views | J2BLUE |
OneLove Armband on 11:27 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | Trying to remember how many people accused me of all sorts when I asked what everyone thought of Morsy not wearing one. Long as you can live with your hypocrisy lads. |
Where's the hypocrisy? Kane wants to wear it and should be allowed to. Aren't we being consistent by saying it should be up to the player? |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:07 - Nov 21 with 1164 views | chicoazul |
OneLove Armband on 12:01 - Nov 21 by Keno | Being serious for a moment for what its worth my two penneth on this is that we live in what is supposed to a free society so if someone wants to wear a rainbow armband, for whatever reason, they should be free to do and if someone doesnt want to, for whatever reason, they should be free not too. What I am not comfortable with is those freedom being taken away, especially in a situation like the Qatar World Cup where is was obviously always going to be issue that various world FA's, Broadcasters and big business could, and maybe should, take a stand over. |
For whatever reason, eh? |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:08 - Nov 21 with 1148 views | chicoazul |
OneLove Armband on 12:04 - Nov 21 by J2BLUE | Where's the hypocrisy? Kane wants to wear it and should be allowed to. Aren't we being consistent by saying it should be up to the player? |
People are certainly being consistent yes. |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:11 - Nov 21 with 1102 views | Darth_Koont | Real shame. But this is a thing in every World Cup, isn’t it? Where only the official and vanilla FIFA-branded messages are allowed. |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:23 - Nov 21 with 1046 views | Vic |
OneLove Armband on 12:07 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | For whatever reason, eh? |
What's your point Chiccers? Do you agree that Morsy should have a choice whether to wear an arm band or not? Do you also agree that Kane should have the same choice? |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:25 - Nov 21 with 1046 views | Keno |
OneLove Armband on 12:07 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | For whatever reason, eh? |
if its a personal choice yes. I havent said that would agree with any reason wither way and in all probably I may not agree with that reason.Someone can decide to wear or not wear an armband and I am free to agree or disagree with their reasons Its personal choice. And I accept that you may, or not may agree with that |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:29 - Nov 21 with 1024 views | chicoazul |
OneLove Armband on 12:23 - Nov 21 by Vic | What's your point Chiccers? Do you agree that Morsy should have a choice whether to wear an arm band or not? Do you also agree that Kane should have the same choice? |
I think that if Morsy is allowed freedom of choice those same freedoms should be extended to for eg cake makers making or not making wedding cakes for whoever they choose. |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:32 - Nov 21 with 1006 views | Sharkey |
OneLove Armband on 12:04 - Nov 21 by J2BLUE | Where's the hypocrisy? Kane wants to wear it and should be allowed to. Aren't we being consistent by saying it should be up to the player? |
The debate was a bit more nuanced at the time. One suggestion was that if the captain wasn't happy to wear the armband, then someone else could have been captain for the day, because to have the captain wear it would better represent the position of the club as a whole. |  | |  |
OneLove Armband on 12:34 - Nov 21 with 986 views | Vic |
OneLove Armband on 12:29 - Nov 21 by chicoazul | I think that if Morsy is allowed freedom of choice those same freedoms should be extended to for eg cake makers making or not making wedding cakes for whoever they choose. |
Good! That's really the point of this thread. It just feels to me like like you're trying to point score and I think you're better than that |  |
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OneLove Armband on 12:41 - Nov 21 with 966 views | chicoazul |
OneLove Armband on 12:34 - Nov 21 by Vic | Good! That's really the point of this thread. It just feels to me like like you're trying to point score and I think you're better than that |
Hah thank you luv but I’m afraid I’m not. |  |
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