| "Get rid" chants 09:51 - Mar 8 with 4409 views | CityBlue |
Am I the only one getting frustrated at the number of fans yelling "get rid of it" when Walton has the ball. Sure it is heart in the mouth stuff sometimes and there has been a couple of mishaps, but we need to be confident in our ability to play it out from the back. This draws their midfield onto us which opens up the channels which we then explore. Our opening goal was a case in question. Left Luongo with time to deliver a punishing through ball to Jackson. |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 11:37 - Mar 8 with 977 views | TVRBlue |
| "Get rid" chants on 10:34 - Mar 8 by Wickets |
Walton can only play the pass that is in front of him , a couple of times he knew he is supposed to play it short but the movement in front of him was not quite there . |
I wish I could upvote this comment a thousand times!
We are coached to play it out from the back, and many times that starts with Walton. He can only play it out from the back if others in our side make themselves suitably available for him to play it to them.
Some of our supporters don't seem to allow for the fact that there is actually another team out there trying to stop us from playing this way by closing down our players making it more difficult for Walton to play the way he/we have been asked to play. |  | | |
| "Get rid" chants on 11:47 - Mar 8 with 938 views | Darth_Koont |
| "Get rid" chants on 11:31 - Mar 8 by homer_123 |
Yes, we had the odd poor pass/ decision making last night but, that will happen, especially at this level.
We have to take the rough with the smooth. McK isn't going to change it and, I would argue, he doesn't need to.
I'm not so sure I agree with you on the last point, certainly there are times where you need to win when not playing well but I would argue that both Sheff Wed and Plymouth have both have a very clear approach to how they play. |
Agree on the whole but we can be better at it or worse at it. Personally, I don’t think an attacker getting close enough to almost pick Walton’s pocket is us doing it as well as we should.
Re: Plymouth and Sheffield Weds, I don’t see us getting the same results when things aren’t going our way so I don’t think they’re as wedded to an approach as much as we are. Hopefully that will change as it’s noticeable that we have been scoring goals at the right time in recent weeks (which was our main issue IMO in the first half of the season). If we can keep that knack and the confidence that comes with it then we still have a shot at the top, and especially crucial in these tougher away games as we’ve generally not done as well when it’s been more difficult to impose our preferred style. |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 11:53 - Mar 8 with 895 views | Bobbychase |
You have to be pretty dim, I'm afraid to say, to sit there when we're in the process of winning four in a row without conceding, scoring 12 in the process, and be somehow shocked and aghast at our style of play and constantly muttering at the keeper and defence.
There should be electrodes on seats and anyone who shouts at Walton or Woolfenden etc to "just get rid" should get a mild shock, and repeat offender banned from having any half-time snacks.
We've got a plus 37 goal difference and have only lost four games all season. It's hardly kamikaze, reckless football. There's a clear plan. |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 11:56 - Mar 8 with 887 views | textbackup |
| "Get rid" chants on 09:52 - Mar 8 by BlueBadger |
The same people doing this are the same people who complained about Mick's teams playing hoofball.
Definite Info. [Post edited 8 Mar 2023 9:53]
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How would you know? |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 12:16 - Mar 8 with 843 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| "Get rid" chants on 10:19 - Mar 8 by SamWhiteUK |
I took Ely_blue's ticket in the SARL (cheers!) and the moaning there was crazy. I put it down to there being no sense of depth from the stands behind the goals. It makes it look like we are under much more pressure than we actually are.
The thing that drove me mental was, on a couple of occasions:
* We pass the ball out of the back, everyone moans
* We lose the ball at about the halfway line
* We win the ball back, pass back to Walton
* Walton IS under pressure this time, kicks long
* Everyone goes "Wahey, oh he CAN kick it", "Why doesn't he do that the first time" etc.
Please, the first time there was no need to kick long, the second time he had to, and both times he acted accordingly.
If anyone sits in the SBRL or SARL and doesn't like how we pass out from the back, I urge you to sit in Magnus Upper for a game so you can see that we actually are quite good at it and your view probably affects your perception more than you realise! |
I sit in SAR lower and hadn’t considered your point about the view from the side. Perhaps I shouldn’t have to clench my arse cheeks quite so tightly in future. |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| "Get rid" chants on 12:18 - Mar 8 with 839 views | BlueBadger |
| "Get rid" chants on 11:56 - Mar 8 by textbackup |
How would you know? |
*Stops the clock* |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 13:15 - Mar 8 with 792 views | mattyhollandsirish |
People are often very set in their ways and traditionally teams don't tend to play out from the back to the extent we do, so I think it's sometimes difficult for people to get their heads round that.
However, given its pretty obvious what our style is, the fact we've done it all season (and longer) and that you don't exactly have to be a rocket scientist to understand what we're trying to do and the benefits it brings, then yes, it's incredibly frustrating, if only for the fact that players don't tend to respond well to such negative noise. So the noise only renders to harm our efforts. Go figure. |  | | |
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| "Get rid" chants on 13:22 - Mar 8 with 764 views | Zx1988 |
| "Get rid" chants on 13:15 - Mar 8 by mattyhollandsirish |
People are often very set in their ways and traditionally teams don't tend to play out from the back to the extent we do, so I think it's sometimes difficult for people to get their heads round that.
However, given its pretty obvious what our style is, the fact we've done it all season (and longer) and that you don't exactly have to be a rocket scientist to understand what we're trying to do and the benefits it brings, then yes, it's incredibly frustrating, if only for the fact that players don't tend to respond well to such negative noise. So the noise only renders to harm our efforts. Go figure. |
It's bleeding annoying, but does it harm the team?
They know it's the gameplan, and I assume that they'll have had the discussion with McKenna (if it was even needed) to understand why the crowd might not entirely understand.
Is Walton really going to be fazed by Barry in the upper north bellowing "GET F***ING RID" every time he receives the ball to feet? | |
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| "Get rid" chants on 13:29 - Mar 8 with 758 views | NthQldITFC |
They might be watching the wrong sport if they can't see that this is in the very DNA of the way we play, and is why we are such an exciting team to watch, and so well suited to climbing the football ladder back to where we belong. Barking fkn mad, or utterly clueless. |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 13:37 - Mar 8 with 748 views | sotd78 |
| "Get rid" chants on 09:52 - Mar 8 by BlueBadger |
The same people doing this are the same people who complained about Mick's teams playing hoofball.
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There's a time and a place. In the same way that we seem to have only one plan so it seems that elements of that plan cannot change. I am not sure if this is the fault of the footballers on the pitch or the coach. We got one nil up and still wanted to draw Accrington onto us - as though they wouldn't be likely to come out of their shell a bit. Their players were not that great so unlike say playing atop six side we could afford to mix up the clearances a bit. We're good at the press ourselves but only if we actually get the ball upfield. So titting about at the back getting increasingly likely to give it away puts the crowd on edge. Some fans haven't got the same nerves of steel. Hence the vocalisation - get rid. There's a time and place for both styles - just we don't seem to know when! |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 13:39 - Mar 8 with 743 views | mrfixit426 |
| "Get rid" chants on 13:37 - Mar 8 by sotd78 |
There's a time and a place. In the same way that we seem to have only one plan so it seems that elements of that plan cannot change. I am not sure if this is the fault of the footballers on the pitch or the coach. We got one nil up and still wanted to draw Accrington onto us - as though they wouldn't be likely to come out of their shell a bit. Their players were not that great so unlike say playing atop six side we could afford to mix up the clearances a bit. We're good at the press ourselves but only if we actually get the ball upfield. So titting about at the back getting increasingly likely to give it away puts the crowd on edge. Some fans haven't got the same nerves of steel. Hence the vocalisation - get rid. There's a time and place for both styles - just we don't seem to know when! |
We don't only have one plan, and elements of all the plans are changing all the time. Why do people still say this? |  | | |
| "Get rid" chants on 13:42 - Mar 8 with 736 views | ghostofescobar |
Also extremely frustrating when coaching kids football, when you hear parents screaming that at the children. "Getting rid of it" was the very, absolute last thing we tried to coach into the kids. Keep the ball, at almost any cost. As soon as you "get rid of it" it becomes the oppositions ball. Crazy, but that is very much a cultural English way of playing. Dark ages stuff. |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 13:44 - Mar 8 with 731 views | sotd78 |
| "Get rid" chants on 13:39 - Mar 8 by mrfixit426 |
We don't only have one plan, and elements of all the plans are changing all the time. Why do people still say this? |
Because that's how I saw it last night. We started frenetic and carried on the same way all game. Oh for a Jim Magilton! | |
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| "Get rid" chants on 13:58 - Mar 8 with 714 views | textbackup |
| "Get rid" chants on 12:18 - Mar 8 by BlueBadger |
*Stops the clock* |
Doesn’t answer the question | |
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| "Get rid" chants on 14:28 - Mar 8 with 688 views | Garv |
| "Get rid" chants on 10:19 - Mar 8 by Pilgrimblue |
I thought Walton was particularly poor last night. He didn’t seem to know what to do and in fact often the ball came back to him when his pass put team under pressure.
He doesn’t take advantage of a quick clearance to Freddie who did very well in retaining the ball. Also Jackson was an ideal option as he had beating of their LB. Can’t always play out from back when there’s not enough options and opponents close us down quickly. Better teams will exploit this if Walton doesn’t make better use of the ball. |
He went long plenty of times.
It's no surprise he makes mistakes when he's got thousands of his own fans screaming at him. |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 14:41 - Mar 8 with 671 views | SamWhiteUK |
| "Get rid" chants on 10:51 - Mar 8 by Ely_Blue |
This wasn’t the old guy on the end of the row in front was it? |
It was the guy about 4 seats in from the right, been on holiday I think? I sat next to him in the second half because it gave me more room (there were like 4 or 5 empty seats there) |  | | |
| "Get rid" chants on 14:47 - Mar 8 with 647 views | SheffordBlue |
| "Get rid" chants on 11:47 - Mar 8 by Darth_Koont |
Agree on the whole but we can be better at it or worse at it. Personally, I don’t think an attacker getting close enough to almost pick Walton’s pocket is us doing it as well as we should.
Re: Plymouth and Sheffield Weds, I don’t see us getting the same results when things aren’t going our way so I don’t think they’re as wedded to an approach as much as we are. Hopefully that will change as it’s noticeable that we have been scoring goals at the right time in recent weeks (which was our main issue IMO in the first half of the season). If we can keep that knack and the confidence that comes with it then we still have a shot at the top, and especially crucial in these tougher away games as we’ve generally not done as well when it’s been more difficult to impose our preferred style. |
It's a balance of risk but the closer the attacker gets to Walton the greater the space behind him if Walton can get it to a defender who then finds that space. I think that's why McKenna praised the players for holding their nerve as some of the best attacking move came from just those situations. | |
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| "Get rid" chants on 14:55 - Mar 8 with 617 views | Dyland |
| "Get rid" chants on 11:24 - Mar 8 by NthQldITFC |
Me and the lads were wondering where you sit for home games!  |
I'm the twonk who jumps up and down when we get a corner. Work it out ;) |  |
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| "Get rid" chants on 15:54 - Mar 8 with 566 views | Buhrer |
I agree with everything you say and think the angst is counter productive. People shi tting themselves when we are clearly the better team and us playing it out from the back isn't a drastically new thing. I do find Walton a bit scary st times, maybe its just how he moves at times. There's also an element of fans having seen us give games away from silly lapses. |  | | |
| "Get rid" chants on 17:33 - Mar 8 with 482 views | BigCommon |
Can't recall us conceding one yet, from trying to play out from the back.... But it's led to us scoring a few, this season. |  | | |
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