| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD 16:57 - Mar 10 with 27606 views | SitfcB |
What a load of twaddle, fair play to him for sticking to his guns, can imagine he disagreed with them when they told him to probably delete the tweet and not to comment in the future. [Post edited 10 Mar 2023 16:58]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 21:56 - Mar 12 with 1984 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 21:52 - Mar 12 by PioneerBlue |
There is nothing to answer. You’ve gone off topic on to politics. I’m talking about the Beeb and a football program guy. You’ve got yourself (and several others are in the same place) all twisted up and conflated a straight forward organisational matter with politics. |
If it is not about politics, why has his comment on politics got anything to do with the BBC?
And why do other BBC employees' comments about politics not get treated the same way?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/laura-kuenssberg-under-fire-for-extraordina |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 22:07 - Mar 12 with 1933 views | PioneerBlue |
Your question should be aimed at the bbc. That goes for the other people asking me the same question! |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 22:11 - Mar 12 with 1901 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 22:07 - Mar 12 by PioneerBlue |
Your question should be aimed at the bbc. That goes for the other people asking me the same question! |
You are literally supporting the BBC in your comments. If you cannot answer that basic question, how can you defend their actions? | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 22:19 - Mar 12 with 1885 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 21:52 - Mar 12 by PioneerBlue |
There is nothing to answer. You’ve gone off topic on to politics. I’m talking about the Beeb and a football program guy. You’ve got yourself (and several others are in the same place) all twisted up and conflated a straight forward organisational matter with politics. |
Er, this is only about politics. His tweet was political, the response to it is political. If LIneker had criticised Saxmundam Women’s Institute tea morning, I’ve a sneaky hunch it wouldn’t have blown up (although you never know, they can be a bit feisty in that part of the world). |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 22:22 - Mar 12 with 1863 views | Keno |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 22:19 - Mar 12 by Swansea_Blue |
Er, this is only about politics. His tweet was political, the response to it is political. If LIneker had criticised Saxmundam Women’s Institute tea morning, I’ve a sneaky hunch it wouldn’t have blown up (although you never know, they can be a bit feisty in that part of the world). |
Excuse me but what’s wrong with the Saxmundam WI tea morning!!??
Some lovely buns there |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 05:48 - Mar 13 with 1691 views | Ryorry |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 21:52 - Mar 12 by PioneerBlue |
There is nothing to answer. You’ve gone off topic on to politics. I’m talking about the Beeb and a football program guy. You’ve got yourself (and several others are in the same place) all twisted up and conflated a straight forward organisational matter with politics. |
Maybe Steve Bray's way of putting it will help you to understand -
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 08:09 - Mar 13 with 1609 views | Zapers |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:41 - Mar 12 by Keno |
ok lets take this a step at a time
Yes he is paid by the BBC
The BBC is not funded by the tory party or the government or taxpayers,
it is funded by a license fee
He is not paid by the tory party
He is not paid by the government
The BBC is not an instrument of the tory party or the government. it is supposed to be an independent broadcaster
We are supposed to live in a free country, where within reason people are free to express their opinions
Lineker expressed an opinion which the Tory party didnt like
They have brought pressure on the independent broadcaster to censure an employee and the independent broadcaster have reacted to that
Had Lineker said the opposite the Tory party wouldn't have complained
The head of the BBC is a well know Tory supporter who is currently under investigation for possible illegal funding of the party and a disgraced leader
There does that help? |
Does it help, not really. You see the point you and several others are missing is that many BBC license paying customers vote Conservative, some vote liberal, and some vote Labour. This is a fundamental reason as to why the Beeb has to remain impartial. | | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 08:25 - Mar 13 with 1577 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 21:52 - Mar 12 by PioneerBlue |
There is nothing to answer. You’ve gone off topic on to politics. I’m talking about the Beeb and a football program guy. You’ve got yourself (and several others are in the same place) all twisted up and conflated a straight forward organisational matter with politics. |
SWERVE!
This is politics. That's the whole point - he's being censured because he's talking politics. Stop swerving and answer how this is different to all the other occasions when it's been fine. |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 08:28 - Mar 13 with 1573 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 08:09 - Mar 13 by Zapers |
Does it help, not really. You see the point you and several others are missing is that many BBC license paying customers vote Conservative, some vote liberal, and some vote Labour. This is a fundamental reason as to why the Beeb has to remain impartial. |
They're not being impartial though. They're allowing comments that back the government or attack their rivals, but NOT allowing comments that criticise them. So in what way is that remaining impartial? | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 08:29 - Mar 13 with 1582 views | Darth_Koont |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 08:09 - Mar 13 by Zapers |
Does it help, not really. You see the point you and several others are missing is that many BBC license paying customers vote Conservative, some vote liberal, and some vote Labour. This is a fundamental reason as to why the Beeb has to remain impartial. |
But they’ve not been impartial for decades.
The right are upset that a football presenter has voiced his personal opinion on his own twitter account and are talking about BBC impartiality. But this has blatantly not been a problem when attacking the left who haven’t even been in power for over 4 decades. And this has also been part of the actual BBC political coverage too, from regurgitating any and every smear and trope re: the left as if they’re communists to them wading in with a Panorama documentary on antisemitism that has been shown to have grossly and shoddily misrepresented the situation.
That’s a sign of the imbalance: you’re upset about Lineker criticising a right-wing populist government, people like me on the left are upset that the BBC actively helps block social democracy and defends the political, social and economic status quo. |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD (n/t) on 09:12 - Mar 13 with 1508 views | management |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 09:20 - Mar 13 with 1490 views | DJR |
Very interesting to read reports that even Priti Patel has reservations about aspects of the Illegal Migration Bill.
This appears to be confirmed by the fact that she has tweeted nothing in support of the Bill, in sharp contrast to "our own" Tom Hunt.
If someone had the time, it would interesting to see how many Tory MPs have not tweeted about the Bill because that could be an indication that they too had reservations. [Post edited 13 Mar 2023 9:31]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 09:47 - Mar 13 with 1427 views | Keno |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 09:20 - Mar 13 by DJR |
Very interesting to read reports that even Priti Patel has reservations about aspects of the Illegal Migration Bill.
This appears to be confirmed by the fact that she has tweeted nothing in support of the Bill, in sharp contrast to "our own" Tom Hunt.
If someone had the time, it would interesting to see how many Tory MPs have not tweeted about the Bill because that could be an indication that they too had reservations. [Post edited 13 Mar 2023 9:31]
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susie dents word of the day is good
Was used to reply to mad nad [Post edited 13 Mar 2023 9:47]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 09:48 - Mar 13 with 1422 views | Keno |
Come on TWTD, for Sitters can we make this a 10 pager??!! | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:06 - Mar 13 with 1391 views | leitrimblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 09:48 - Mar 13 by Keno |
Come on TWTD, for Sitters can we make this a 10 pager??!! |
I don't think this thread needs any encouragement to get over the line. I reckon its an easy 15-20 pager.
Though If I see it struggling I may say something controversial just to help it on its way... |  | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:10 - Mar 13 with 1366 views | DJR |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:06 - Mar 13 by leitrimblue |
I don't think this thread needs any encouragement to get over the line. I reckon its an easy 15-20 pager.
Though If I see it struggling I may say something controversial just to help it on its way... |
Yep, I'm away for a few days after today, but I'm sure it will be in full flow when I get back. | | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:16 - Mar 13 with 1337 views | Keno |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:10 - Mar 13 by DJR |
Yep, I'm away for a few days after today, but I'm sure it will be in full flow when I get back. |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:27 - Mar 13 with 1287 views | DJR |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:16 - Mar 13 by Keno |
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Oh, well! Maybe this will help get it that bit nearer. [Post edited 13 Mar 2023 10:28]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:39 - Mar 13 with 1239 views | itfcjoe |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 21:52 - Mar 12 by PioneerBlue |
There is nothing to answer. You’ve gone off topic on to politics. I’m talking about the Beeb and a football program guy. You’ve got yourself (and several others are in the same place) all twisted up and conflated a straight forward organisational matter with politics. |
Ok, how different is it to Alan Sugar tweeting in support for the Tory party, and to talk about comparison to Nazis he literally had a picture photoshopped up of Corbyn sitting next to Hitler in a car.
Both Lineker and Sugar are independent people, who had huge successes in their careers - but their public persona and standing is now much more defined by being a BBC Sports presenter, and by The Apprentice.
Both have continued to tweet about political matters - Lineker clearly not a fan of the Govt, Sugar quite the opposite.
Sugar hasn't been censored by the BBC, Lineker now has.
Do you think that this is right? Personally I have no real problems with either tweeting about what they want - even though both are big faces on the BBC |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:59 - Mar 13 with 1042 views | Keno |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 10:10 - Mar 13 by DJR |
Yep, I'm away for a few days after today, but I'm sure it will be in full flow when I get back. |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 16:24 - Mar 13 with 1022 views | DJR |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:59 - Mar 13 by Keno |
#prayforsitters |
The thing that has kept this going is that it is in the football section, so has maybe attracted a wider range of posters.
However, the lower it drops down the opening page for football posts, the greater the danger.
This puts a great responsibility on the rest of you in my absence. [Post edited 13 Mar 2023 16:26]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 16:39 - Mar 13 with 993 views | eireblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 16:24 - Mar 13 by DJR |
The thing that has kept this going is that it is in the football section, so has maybe attracted a wider range of posters.
However, the lower it drops down the opening page for football posts, the greater the danger.
This puts a great responsibility on the rest of you in my absence. [Post edited 13 Mar 2023 16:26]
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I suppose one way to get it past the 10 page mark is; some posters absolutely knew Gary was in the wrong, and should be dealt with.
They could explain how they knew that by showing the relevant contracts and guidelines and historical precedents, when the BBC seems to have realised it needs to have an independent review of these topics, since that area is a bit “grey”.
Yea, that should help. |  | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 18:30 - Mar 15 with 779 views | jacobnikons |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:45 - Mar 11 by noggin |
LOL, tell us you voted tory/brexit, without saying you voted tory/brexit. |
Oh no, sorry I didn't realise I was not allowed a different opinion to the loud, noisy left leaning posters who dominate this football board who seem to think its ok to mock others who disagree with their politics. How unusual! |  | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 19:46 - Mar 15 with 693 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 18:30 - Mar 15 by jacobnikons |
Oh no, sorry I didn't realise I was not allowed a different opinion to the loud, noisy left leaning posters who dominate this football board who seem to think its ok to mock others who disagree with their politics. How unusual! |
You are allowed to give your opinion. Just like anyone can post their opinion of it too. | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 19:46 - Mar 15 with 693 views | Ryorry |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 18:30 - Mar 15 by jacobnikons |
Oh no, sorry I didn't realise I was not allowed a different opinion to the loud, noisy left leaning posters who dominate this football board who seem to think its ok to mock others who disagree with their politics. How unusual! |
Good of you to help Sitters out in his bid for 10-page glory … | |
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