| Nailed on names on the teamsheet 16:54 - Jul 5 with 5627 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
..........................Walton
Clarke............Wolfie...........????.............Davis
....................Morsy...........?????
????/Burns...............Chaplin.................Broadhead
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Only reason for the ????? next to Morsy is I really don't know who his nailed on partner will be.
But think we'll be looking for another CB, obviously a striker or two and some serious competition for Burns.
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 17:54 - Jul 5 with 1623 views | FrimleyBlue |
I'm not so sure on Morsy.
At present no new contract on offer. Last year of current contract. Does KM see him as part of our future? |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 17:56 - Jul 5 with 1620 views | NthQldITFC |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 17:52 - Jul 5 by GlasgowBlue |
Think Burns may be at risk. Just my personal opinion. |
But also its so close to our 'base' system, that we can flick between Burns one week with 2 of the CMs and the three CMs the next week, or within games, or whatever. |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 17:57 - Jul 5 with 1619 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 17:56 - Jul 5 by NthQldITFC |
But also its so close to our 'base' system, that we can flick between Burns one week with 2 of the CMs and the three CMs the next week, or within games, or whatever. |
Oh yeah. I think we will see players in and out of the starting eleven depending on the opposition. |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:02 - Jul 5 with 1613 views | Hipsterectomy |
The thing in Burns favour is that he was quality in every key game last season. Usually our good players become anonymous in big/must win matches yet he seemed to thrive in them |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:07 - Jul 5 with 1600 views | Kropotkin123 |
Don't think we will see Chaplain this season |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:11 - Jul 5 with 1608 views | itfcjoe |
I’d say this from main starting team last year
Walton - Definite
Clarke - Probable
Woolf - Probable
Burgess - Unlikely
Davis - Definite
Morsy - Probable
Taylor - Probable
Burns - Possible
Chaplin - Definite
Broadhead - Definite
Ladapo - Unlikely |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:13 - Jul 5 with 1584 views | HighgateBlue |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 17:15 - Jul 5 by PhilTWTD |
I thought he indicated he wants him to play down the middle of midfield:
“He’s versatile in midfield. He’s done different roles but for us primarily, to play as one of the main central midfielders, you have to be able to receive in deep positions and we see him as someone we want to see get beyond the ball, make forward runs, get in the box and try add some goals from that area.”
 McKenna: Taylor is a Good Profile For Us in All Aspects 1st Jul 2023 16:27Boss Kieran McKenna says new signing Jack Taylor is a good profile for the Blues from a number of angles, the midfielder having signed from Peterborough earlier in the week, while the Town manager has outlined the reasons for keeping Massimo Luongo and Sone Aluko at Portman Road.  5
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I read that as meaning that he /wouldn't/ be one of the two main central mids, as to play that role one has to receive it deep, whereas "we see him as someone we want to see get beyond the ball, make forward runs, get in the box and try add some goals from that area.” Might have read it wrong. I guess we'll find out soon enough... |  | | |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:33 - Jul 5 with 1565 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 17:54 - Jul 5 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm not so sure on Morsy.
At present no new contract on offer. Last year of current contract. Does KM see him as part of our future? |
I can see us improving on Morsy in the January window, if his performances are below Championship expectations. But I can see us changing things this window. | |
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| Chaplin, Broadhead, Davis, Walton..... on 18:35 - Jul 5 with 1560 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Chaplin, Broadhead, Davis, Walton..... on 17:31 - Jul 5 by the_toff |
Your OP proposes Taylor isn't nailed on 6 days after signing him for £1.5m, so I'm not sure why it's such a stretch to suggest Clarke isn't either. |
Bloots’ Mum has shown up. | |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:37 - Jul 5 with 1564 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Am I the only one who wasn’t 100% sold on Harry Clarke last season. He possesses great athleticism and he’s clearly a strong and powerful runner/athlete. But he seems a little bit brainless at times I thought. Going for balls that he wasn’t going to get near, diving in and that red card on the last day was just utter stupidity.
But he has some championship experience and we have paid good money for him so I imagine him to be a starter. |  |
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| No, I said that.... on 18:39 - Jul 5 with 1557 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| No, I said that.... on 17:23 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
....I don't think he should be a guaranteed starter.
I also said that he probably will be, because we won't have anyone better this season.
A lot of our fans seem really reluctant for us to actually try and improve the team.
The favourites to be relegated from the Championship next season are Plymouth, and they finished above us.
We need to strengthen, we can't rest on our laurels. |
You literally said, the only reason we aren’t replacing him now is because we don’t have the time, or the money.
No one has said anything about not improving the squad, you’ve created that narrative all on your own. | |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:42 - Jul 5 with 1552 views | Herbivore |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:11 - Jul 5 by itfcjoe |
I’d say this from main starting team last year
Walton - Definite
Clarke - Probable
Woolf - Probable
Burgess - Unlikely
Davis - Definite
Morsy - Probable
Taylor - Probable
Burns - Possible
Chaplin - Definite
Broadhead - Definite
Ladapo - Unlikely |
I'd be really surprised if Woolf isn't a regular fixture in the side next season. McKenna seems to really rate him and he was excellent last season, looked very capable of stepping up. |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 19:05 - Jul 5 with 1533 views | unstableblue |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:37 - Jul 5 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Am I the only one who wasn’t 100% sold on Harry Clarke last season. He possesses great athleticism and he’s clearly a strong and powerful runner/athlete. But he seems a little bit brainless at times I thought. Going for balls that he wasn’t going to get near, diving in and that red card on the last day was just utter stupidity.
But he has some championship experience and we have paid good money for him so I imagine him to be a starter. |
Clarke made a big difference to us last season, he messed up our opposition’s game plan, with his pace, quality distribution and crucially his breaking of the lines.
He spurred Burns into form.
Having said all that he’s some way off the finished article, and was a bit loose at times, and a bit headless. And although he’s played championship football, he’ll have to improve.
But the good news is he’s 22.. so there is only improvement under McKenna’s tutelage |  |
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| I very, very, very much doubt she has mate. (n/t) on 19:14 - Jul 5 with 1517 views | Bloots |
| Chaplin, Broadhead, Davis, Walton..... on 18:35 - Jul 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Bloots’ Mum has shown up. |
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| Yes, to replace Clarke.... on 19:19 - Jul 5 with 1514 views | Bloots |
| No, I said that.... on 18:39 - Jul 5 by Cheltenham_Blue |
You literally said, the only reason we aren’t replacing him now is because we don’t have the time, or the money.
No one has said anything about not improving the squad, you’ve created that narrative all on your own. |
....as well as the other players that I mentioned would cost more money that I expect we are able to justify this season.
There are other areas that need addressing more urgently.
I do however believe that if we are looking to seriously get out of this league then he is one of the players that shouldn't be considered a guaranteed starter.
The thread is about guaranteed starters.
Not sure why you are failing to grasp that. | |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 19:35 - Jul 5 with 1504 views | Illinoisblue |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:37 - Jul 5 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Am I the only one who wasn’t 100% sold on Harry Clarke last season. He possesses great athleticism and he’s clearly a strong and powerful runner/athlete. But he seems a little bit brainless at times I thought. Going for balls that he wasn’t going to get near, diving in and that red card on the last day was just utter stupidity.
But he has some championship experience and we have paid good money for him so I imagine him to be a starter. |
I think of the January signings he had the least impact but that in itself is a good thing; that we can spend 1.5m on a player to make us just a little bit better. |  |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 19:42 - Jul 5 with 1497 views | ArnieM |
I don’t see any of our current centre backs being nailed on names on team sheet.
Out of Woolfie, Edmundson and Burgess , I would say Burgess is our best central DEFENDER, and he’s average in my humble view. This is why I feel we need x2 CB’s in the door with championship experience. |  |
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| No, I said that.... on 19:52 - Jul 5 with 1492 views | Guthrum |
| No, I said that.... on 17:23 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
....I don't think he should be a guaranteed starter.
I also said that he probably will be, because we won't have anyone better this season.
A lot of our fans seem really reluctant for us to actually try and improve the team.
The favourites to be relegated from the Championship next season are Plymouth, and they finished above us.
We need to strengthen, we can't rest on our laurels. |
Tho Plymouth have lost quite a few more key players from their squad (returned loans and released) than we have. |  |
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| Yeah, agreed.... on 19:58 - Jul 5 with 1487 views | Bloots |
| No, I said that.... on 19:52 - Jul 5 by Guthrum |
Tho Plymouth have lost quite a few more key players from their squad (returned loans and released) than we have. |
....and I fully expect us to finish above them.
But we have to be realistic and realise that there was some proper dross in that division last year and as they say: "previous performance is no guarantee of future success".
This is a different ball game. | |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 20:19 - Jul 5 with 1466 views | Herbivore |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 19:42 - Jul 5 by ArnieM |
I don’t see any of our current centre backs being nailed on names on team sheet.
Out of Woolfie, Edmundson and Burgess , I would say Burgess is our best central DEFENDER, and he’s average in my humble view. This is why I feel we need x2 CB’s in the door with championship experience. |
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 20:54 - Jul 5 with 1434 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 19:42 - Jul 5 by ArnieM |
I don’t see any of our current centre backs being nailed on names on team sheet.
Out of Woolfie, Edmundson and Burgess , I would say Burgess is our best central DEFENDER, and he’s average in my humble view. This is why I feel we need x2 CB’s in the door with championship experience. |
I know what you mean but Woolfenden certainly deserves a chance in the next level as he was excellent last season.
I had been critical a lot of him prior to McKenna's arrival and the latter will have revived his career. Before that Woolfenden had mostly been bang average/poor. 'One of our own' has always been his massive 'advantage' over other players in the eyes of large percent of our fanbase.
Last season though he's shut me up, was phenomenal and whether he can come off well in the Championship remains to be seen. [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 20:55]
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 21:04 - Jul 5 with 1414 views | ArnieM |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 20:54 - Jul 5 by Mach_foreignBlue |
I know what you mean but Woolfenden certainly deserves a chance in the next level as he was excellent last season.
I had been critical a lot of him prior to McKenna's arrival and the latter will have revived his career. Before that Woolfenden had mostly been bang average/poor. 'One of our own' has always been his massive 'advantage' over other players in the eyes of large percent of our fanbase.
Last season though he's shut me up, was phenomenal and whether he can come off well in the Championship remains to be seen. [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 20:55]
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I agree with most of that Mach. But this is not about just one CB . My opinion is all of our current CB’s are not going to be good enough week in week out at Championship level - In my humble view.
On the point of Woolfie which you raise, I would agree he had a very good , improving, season , BUT this upturn in form seemed to coincide with him partnering Burgess. Woolfie / Edmundson wasn’t a good pairing , and if I’ve didn’t make a costly mistake in a game, it seemed the other would. Our defence tightened up a lot once Burgess came into the side.
Strikers / forwards are going to be quicker and far more canny and skilful than league one counterparts . I think we need stronger in the squad. We’ll see what happens . Don’t get me wrong if ANY of our current CB step up to the plate and price they can do it at Championship level, I will be as happy as Larry about, trust me on that. | |
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| Yes, to replace Clarke.... on 21:09 - Jul 5 with 1414 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Yes, to replace Clarke.... on 19:19 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
....as well as the other players that I mentioned would cost more money that I expect we are able to justify this season.
There are other areas that need addressing more urgently.
I do however believe that if we are looking to seriously get out of this league then he is one of the players that shouldn't be considered a guaranteed starter.
The thread is about guaranteed starters.
Not sure why you are failing to grasp that. |
I'm very capable of grasping the meaning of a thread I started myself thanks Bloots.
But, thanks for trying to explain it to me.
The thread is about guaranteed starters as we are now, If we aren't bringing someone in during this window, not surmising about who will start or not based on who we might sign in 6 months time.
We are not going to replace Clarke after 6 months and stick him on the bench this window at all, as you said yourself. But all my other question marks might well be.
So do you think JD will might be favoured over Clarke then? [Post edited 5 Jul 2023 21:16]
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| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 21:16 - Jul 5 with 1399 views | Horsham |
| Nailed on names on the teamsheet on 18:11 - Jul 5 by itfcjoe |
I’d say this from main starting team last year
Walton - Definite
Clarke - Probable
Woolf - Probable
Burgess - Unlikely
Davis - Definite
Morsy - Probable
Taylor - Probable
Burns - Possible
Chaplin - Definite
Broadhead - Definite
Ladapo - Unlikely |
I think that’s accurate.
That leaves the recruitment looking like;
1 x left sided centre back- high priority
1 x number 9 - high priority
1 x right winger - medium priority
Upgrades across the rest of the squad - lower priority
Taking the high and medium priority recruitment, what kind of profiles/skill sets etc are we likely to look for? At a guess for the CB we’ll be looking for a bit of a specimen who can handle defending and the ball. For the #9 basically Hirst or someone with similar qualities but better, another specimen, a presser, a runner behind, a winner of headers, target man, finisher. For the right winger…I think that’s a bit more up for debate. Could want something quite different to Burns. |  | | |
| Yeah, agreed.... on 21:19 - Jul 5 with 1399 views | Guthrum |
| Yeah, agreed.... on 19:58 - Jul 5 by Bloots |
....and I fully expect us to finish above them.
But we have to be realistic and realise that there was some proper dross in that division last year and as they say: "previous performance is no guarantee of future success".
This is a different ball game. |
However, I do also feel that the gap between L1 and the Champ can be overstated.
The upper end are much better, but the bottom third are not really so far away from the reasonable sides of the level below, if at all. It isn't like things suddenly became wildly easier when we went down in 2019. | |
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