| The BBC Presenter... 17:59 - Jul 12 with 7414 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
...has been outed by his wife. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:10 - Jul 12 with 1802 views | Herbivore |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:08 - Jul 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
"Respectfully, how much do you know either? Other allegations have come to light and taken together some of these allegations don't look great."
Its not about "what I know", its about knowing whats right.
I found it odd that you should take any kind of defence of Joe's stance is all. Make your mind up, which is it? Joe knows, or we should wait? |
I think what I've said is pretty clear to be honest. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:11 - Jul 12 with 1804 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:08 - Jul 12 by TresBonne |
Bound to cause a whole load of debate about 'unwise but not illegal' actions, this one. I'll sit it out and grab some popcorn. |
I shouldn't bother. My own mental health isn't great and this is triggering me something chronic so I'm bowing out. [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 19:14]
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:16 - Jul 12 with 1766 views | lowhouseblue |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:10 - Jul 12 by DanTheMan |
I am aware of all of that, but mental health is an explanation but not an excuse for doing wrong. |
but even for someone who's religious mental health issues can be associated with recklessness and self-destructive behaviour. sometimes people do things precisely because they run counter to dearly held beliefs almost as self-hate. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:20 - Jul 12 with 1731 views | DanTheMan |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:16 - Jul 12 by lowhouseblue |
but even for someone who's religious mental health issues can be associated with recklessness and self-destructive behaviour. sometimes people do things precisely because they run counter to dearly held beliefs almost as self-hate. |
That's a fair point, maybe it is a cause.
I just dislike the hypocrisy I suppose. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:35 - Jul 12 with 1681 views | Vegtablue |
Well shows how little I know, thought Edwards was publicly gay.
This is reminiscent of the Bairstow incident in the second Ashes test. We have the law and we have the spirit of the game. In this instance I'm minded to let the law take precedence. Where is the public interest? |  | | |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:39 - Jul 12 with 1657 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:20 - Jul 12 by DanTheMan |
That's a fair point, maybe it is a cause.
I just dislike the hypocrisy I suppose. |
It's only hypocritical if he has criticised others for doing similar, or if he has indulged in this behaviour behind his wife's back.
There are plenty of Christians who have more liberal understandings of human sexuality than you wish to project onto them.
But here's a thought experiment: precisely what should a high profile, Christian, family man in a very stressful job do when he realises he has homosexual feelings/urges?
1 Suppress it?
2 Go on a 14 day promiscuous sex spree?
3 Talk to his wife and agree a relatively safe outlet?
4 Keep it secret from his wife and pursue a relatively safe outlet deceitfully?
I know which I would recommend, if asked. | | | |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:47 - Jul 12 with 1634 views | Ryorry |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:39 - Jul 12 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It's only hypocritical if he has criticised others for doing similar, or if he has indulged in this behaviour behind his wife's back.
There are plenty of Christians who have more liberal understandings of human sexuality than you wish to project onto them.
But here's a thought experiment: precisely what should a high profile, Christian, family man in a very stressful job do when he realises he has homosexual feelings/urges?
1 Suppress it?
2 Go on a 14 day promiscuous sex spree?
3 Talk to his wife and agree a relatively safe outlet?
4 Keep it secret from his wife and pursue a relatively safe outlet deceitfully?
I know which I would recommend, if asked. |
It was more an issue of alleged bullying (in response to a threat to out him) than using a dating app which was the issue I believe.
However, I’ve no more knowledge about it than anyone else on the outside, and don’t want to comment any further. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:49 - Jul 12 with 1620 views | DanTheMan |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:39 - Jul 12 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It's only hypocritical if he has criticised others for doing similar, or if he has indulged in this behaviour behind his wife's back.
There are plenty of Christians who have more liberal understandings of human sexuality than you wish to project onto them.
But here's a thought experiment: precisely what should a high profile, Christian, family man in a very stressful job do when he realises he has homosexual feelings/urges?
1 Suppress it?
2 Go on a 14 day promiscuous sex spree?
3 Talk to his wife and agree a relatively safe outlet?
4 Keep it secret from his wife and pursue a relatively safe outlet deceitfully?
I know which I would recommend, if asked. |
As far as I'm aware he's a Presbyterian which aren't fantastic on LGBT rights, although far from the worst. Maybe he's a liberal one I guess, that said I'm not sure cheating on your wife, even with permission, is permitted.
And the age gap, quite frankly, gives me the creeps.
As with Ryorry I'll probably now out here. I shouldn't have really commented without knowing the full story so that's me doing something stupid. I'll wait for more info I think.
For what it's worth, I hope he gets the treatment he obviously needs and this should never have been in the public eye in the first place. [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 19:51]
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:58 - Jul 12 with 1579 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| The BBC Presenter... on 18:38 - Jul 12 by itfcjoe |
He deserves to be fired, this behaviour is, how did Schofield describe it, ‘unwise but not illegal’?
It’s not fitting for someone in his role, but didn’t need to be dragged through the papers like this and the Sun may regret it if they can’t provide the proof to back up original story |
You need to be a paragon of virtue to read the news?
FFS the forum has gone all Mary Whitehouse,
Disgusted of Tonbridge Wells. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 19:59 - Jul 12 with 1572 views | Whos_blue |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:35 - Jul 12 by Vegtablue |
Well shows how little I know, thought Edwards was publicly gay.
This is reminiscent of the Bairstow incident in the second Ashes test. We have the law and we have the spirit of the game. In this instance I'm minded to let the law take precedence. Where is the public interest? |
Where's the public interest?
Probably pages 1 to 10 in the s*n tomorrow.
They've decided it's in our interest.
Despicable rag. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 20:14 - Jul 12 with 1516 views | GlasgowBlue |
| The BBC Presenter... on 18:13 - Jul 12 by Mullet |
There was a good discussion on the News Room podcast with a media lawyer on this. Seems the Sun really need to get their ducks in a row and stand up proper evidence to avoid it, which looks unlikely you'd assume.
Likewise he compared it to Lord McAlpine who sued the social media accounts with large followers rather than individuals which seemed to be seen as sensible then, but might not be now given the way media spreads so much quicker and further now. |
Looks like the Sun have bottled it according to the latest news. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 20:15 - Jul 12 with 1513 views | Vegtablue |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:47 - Jul 12 by Ryorry |
It was more an issue of alleged bullying (in response to a threat to out him) than using a dating app which was the issue I believe.
However, I’ve no more knowledge about it than anyone else on the outside, and don’t want to comment any further. |
Best bet Ryorry I will join you in a second.
Before I go though, and without knowing the full extent of Edwards' bullying or intimidation of the person who threatened to expose him, this feels like a less controversial aspect of the 'case' against him. It would have been a devastating career/life blow wouldn't it and I can imagine Edwards threatened retaliation of similar career/life significance. The media circus that's followed is evidence that he judged the danger of the threat correctly.
And Bankster you've nailed it sadly. Sounds like the BBC will be parked outside the hospital until he emerges too for comment. Praise be! | | | |
| The BBC Presenter... on 20:15 - Jul 12 with 1513 views | MattinLondon |
| The BBC Presenter... on 18:44 - Jul 12 by itfcjoe |
Because he’s a wrong’Un holding a role of great responsibility |
Great responsibility? He reads the news from an autocue. |  | | |
| The BBC Presenter... on 20:39 - Jul 12 with 1453 views | giant_stow |
| The BBC Presenter... on 20:15 - Jul 12 by Vegtablue |
Best bet Ryorry I will join you in a second.
Before I go though, and without knowing the full extent of Edwards' bullying or intimidation of the person who threatened to expose him, this feels like a less controversial aspect of the 'case' against him. It would have been a devastating career/life blow wouldn't it and I can imagine Edwards threatened retaliation of similar career/life significance. The media circus that's followed is evidence that he judged the danger of the threat correctly.
And Bankster you've nailed it sadly. Sounds like the BBC will be parked outside the hospital until he emerges too for comment. Praise be! |
I think you've nailed it. A lot is going to depend on whether Edwards made threats and if he did, could they be considered as a proportionate counter to possibly being exposed. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 21:08 - Jul 12 with 1402 views | StokieBlue |
| The BBC Presenter... on 18:09 - Jul 12 by SitfcB |
Hope they sue the sun for all they’ve got. |
"The Sun now insists it never actually meant to imply anything illegal took place and added it has no plans to publish further allegations."
Total liars given they printed this on Friday:
" “a well-known presenter” at the BBC had given a young person “more than £35,000 since they were 17 in return for sordid images”"
Something they know is an illegal act.
SB [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 21:08]
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| The BBC Presenter... on 22:00 - Jul 12 with 1324 views | SitfcB |
| The BBC Presenter... on 21:08 - Jul 12 by StokieBlue |
"The Sun now insists it never actually meant to imply anything illegal took place and added it has no plans to publish further allegations."
Total liars given they printed this on Friday:
" “a well-known presenter” at the BBC had given a young person “more than £35,000 since they were 17 in return for sordid images”"
Something they know is an illegal act.
SB [Post edited 12 Jul 2023 21:08]
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And they published this…
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| The BBC Presenter... on 22:21 - Jul 12 with 1290 views | J2BLUE |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:35 - Jul 12 by Vegtablue |
Well shows how little I know, thought Edwards was publicly gay.
This is reminiscent of the Bairstow incident in the second Ashes test. We have the law and we have the spirit of the game. In this instance I'm minded to let the law take precedence. Where is the public interest? |
Social media feeds on this sort of thing. There will be plenty of interest from uninformed loudmouths.
He will almost certainly now be tagged with labels which are completely untrue but will definitely stick. |  |
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| The BBC Presenter... on 22:31 - Jul 12 with 1284 views | Ryorry |
| The BBC Presenter... on 19:58 - Jul 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You need to be a paragon of virtue to read the news?
FFS the forum has gone all Mary Whitehouse,
Disgusted of Tonbridge Wells. |
It's not this forum imposing standards.
I questioned elsewhere what right the BBC has to know about/question their employees' private lives, & was told that all BBC staff, esp presenters have to sign up to a charter of standards re acceptable behaviour.
Not sure if that's correct, but it does seem likely, | |
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